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    Re: Turbonator SBEC Codebase

    Quote Originally Posted by ShelGame View Post
    .... But, MP Tuner doesn't like them. If you save the template, MP Tuner will take them out so the errors will be gone the next time you open it.
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    an alternative would be to search for the lines that are mentioned and change the text ";mptrace" to ";trace". i use the code of ";mp" to begin all the commands i use in the program.

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    Re: Turbonator SBEC Codebase

    Quote Originally Posted by ShelGame View Post
    Those errors don't mean anything. There were some 'extra' bytes that Chrysler had left behind in the cal area. I put them in to be complete (Iwasn't sure what they were for - and still don't know). But, MP Tuner doesn't like them. If you save the template, MP Tuner will take them out so the errors will be gone the next time you open it.

    Your cal is based on the latest T-SBEC code, though maybe not for MPT2. I can't remember. The only difference between 2.x and 3.0 is the template being setup for MPT2.
    The Staging limiter is not working on the current cal or the one I modified. I'm assuming I need to start with one of the newer versions to have this option available? I tried setting it up to work with the Cruise on/off Switch as I don't have the cruise hooked up in the car and it isn't working. If there is something else I need to do let me know.

    Thanks,

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    Re: Turbonator SBEC Codebase

    Quote Originally Posted by bfarroo View Post
    The Staging limiter is not working on the current cal or the one I modified. I'm assuming I need to start with one of the newer versions to have this option available? I tried setting it up to work with the Cruise on/off Switch as I don't have the cruise hooked up in the car and it isn't working. If there is something else I need to do let me know.

    Thanks,
    No, the staging limiter doesn't work in any of the SBEC cals. I haven't been able to figure out why. It's setup identically to the SMEC cals where it works fine.
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    Re: Turbonator SBEC Codebase

    OK, I'll keep going with what I have then. Thanks,

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    Re: Turbonator SBEC Codebase

    11/2/11 - Update now posted:
    For use only with MP Tuner 2

    - Added the calculated tables to the templates to show the total timing in 3D
    - Added the PumpShot subgroup to transient fuel and moved the relevant tables over
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    Re: Turbonator SBEC Codebase

    Anyone running this care to help me figure out the staging limiter issue? I'd like to get it working again, but I don't have a (running) SBEC car. Need someone to test out changes.
    Last edited by ShelGame; 11-03-2011 at 02:22 PM.
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    Re: Turbonator SBEC Codebase

    Quote Originally Posted by ShelGame View Post
    11/2/11 - Update now posted:
    For use only with MP Tuner 2

    - Added the calculated tables to the templates to show the total timing in 3D
    - Added the PumpShot subgroup to transient fuel and moved the relevant tables over
    You'll need MP Tuner 2.0.1.6 downloaded to view the 3D tables...
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    Re: Turbonator SBEC Codebase

    Only SBEC car I have is the V6...
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    Re: Turbonator SBEC Codebase

    OK, fixed all the load and compile errors. It was a copy/paste error on my part, not an MP Tune problem.
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    Re: Turbonator SBEC Codebase

    Quote Originally Posted by ShelGame View Post
    Anyone running this care to help me figure out the staging limiter issue? I'd like to get it working again, but I don't have a (running) SBEC car. Need someone to test out changes.
    Anyone?
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    Re: Turbonator SBEC Codebase

    I'll give you a hand.

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    Re: Turbonator SBEC Codebase

    Quote Originally Posted by zin View Post
    I'll give you a hand.

    Mike
    OK, well the last version I posted had several 'fixes' for the staging limiter. I'd like to know if it's currently working or not. I think I have a method to do spark-cut as-well-as or instead-of the stock fuel cut. But, I need to make sure the basic staging limiter is working before I try to add it in...

    So, if you can build a cal using the latest T-SBEC data posted on #1, and setup the staging limiter; let me know how it works. If you need some help setting up the cal, let me know.

    EDIT: Actually, do you want me to build you a cal and put it in the SBEC you have sitting here on my bench? If you want to do it that way, just send me a spec sheet for the cal and I'll get it done next week.
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    Re: Turbonator SBEC Codebase

    I can help too.
    Let me know.

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    Re: Turbonator SBEC Codebase

    That would be great. The specs will be the same, as it's going in the same car.

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    Re: Turbonator SBEC Codebase

    My car's put away for the winter but keep up the good work I'd like to use the staging limiter next year.

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    Re: Turbonator SBEC Codebase

    I will have to start playing with this again but my car has a terrible time starting SOMETIMES. For the first like 5 seconds or so it will kinda miss (sounds almost like a spark thing or its got a super nasty cam in it and its all loud and violent) and smoke a bunch them go away and idle fine. Once again it only does this sometimes and does it less if the car is already warmed up. Does this have anything to do with turbonator or is it maybe another issue all together?

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    Re: Turbonator SBEC Codebase

    Quote Originally Posted by AzShadow View Post
    I will have to start playing with this again but my car has a terrible time starting SOMETIMES. For the first like 5 seconds or so it will kinda miss (sounds almost like a spark thing or its got a super nasty cam in it and its all loud and violent) and smoke a bunch them go away and idle fine. Once again it only does this sometimes and does it less if the car is already warmed up. Does this have anything to do with turbonator or is it maybe another issue all together?
    I never had that happen with other T-SBEC cals.
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    Re: Turbonator SBEC Codebase

    Rob,

    Did you ever get any help on the staging limiter issue? I can help.

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    Re: Turbonator SBEC Codebase

    EDIT: I figured out the solution to the problem; you can't use a newer .ASM file with an older .TPL file.

    Also, I get an error when trying to compile the T-SBEC_v3.asm file from 3-Nov-2011.

    The error occurs after clicking 'Compile' in MPTune when the DOS window pops-up.

    It reads:

    ?ASxxxx-Error-(u) in line 5732 of <path of ASM file goes here>\T-SBEC_v3.asm
    (u) undefined symbol encountered during assembly

    So, I opened T-SBEC_v3.asm and went to line 5732. Found this:

    ldx #AESLOP_DeltaMAPEnrichmentPT ; load index with value

    I searched the entire .ASM file for AESLOP_DeltaMAPEnrichmentPT and didn't find any other occurances.

    Can I use an older .TPL file with the new .ASM? Or does the .TPL file need to be updated as well?

    Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swart View Post
    EDIT: I figured out the solution to the problem; you can't use a newer .ASM file with an older .TPL file.

    Also, I get an error when trying to compile the T-SBEC_v3.asm file from 3-Nov-2011.

    The error occurs after clicking 'Compile' in MPTune when the DOS window pops-up.

    It reads:

    ?ASxxxx-Error-(u) in line 5732 of <path of ASM file goes here>\T-SBEC_v3.asm
    (u) undefined symbol encountered during assembly

    So, I opened T-SBEC_v3.asm and went to line 5732. Found this:

    ldx #AESLOP_DeltaMAPEnrichmentPT ; load index with value

    I searched the entire .ASM file for AESLOP_DeltaMAPEnrichmentPT and didn't find any other occurances.

    Can I use an older .TPL file with the new .ASM? Or does the .TPL file need to be updated as well?

    Any ideas?
    What template? I'll look at it later today...
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