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    Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    We now offer Seimens/Deka 72 and 83# injectors. These are the low impedance 2.4 ohm version injectors. Cost for a set of 4 is $240. and $260. respectively.

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    Re: Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    SWEET since i was looking at getting these, will these directly bolt in like the +40s? any mods required for install?

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    Re: Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhh pretty , must have!!!!
    Dam good price too!!!!

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    Re: Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    Quote Originally Posted by 1966 dart wagon View Post
    SWEET since i was looking at getting these, will these directly bolt in like the +40s? any mods required for install?

    None at all. They are the same size as the factory versions. You should use an adjustable fuel presure regulator to insure the proper A/F ratio.


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    Re: Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris W View Post
    None at all. They are the same size as the factory versions. You should use an adjustable fuel presure regulator to insure the proper A/F ratio.


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    Re: Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    are there any good cals out for this size injector?

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    Re: Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    Quote Originally Posted by Ondonti View Post
    are there any good cals out for this size injector?
    That depends on your definition of "good". I have been asked by a few people to carry these injectors so I added them.


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    Re: Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    Quote Originally Posted by Ondonti View Post
    are there any good cals out for this size injector?
    If you want to run savely above 300bhp those ones would be a must in my opinion - besides other things of couse. Yes the +40 thanks to rising rate in the FPR support in theory more then 300hp BUT I was talking about "savely running above 300hp".

    RE cals, those injectors are predefined for scaling on the cals on this board.
    If making your own cal is not yours it wouldn't be a technical problem for either the vendors or anyone here involved in making cals to set you up.

    But even if a cal wasn't scaled for those and you take boost control in you own hand, I think those injectors are great news. You still have the possibility to control A/F via the fuelpressure (although this would not be my preferred option).

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    Re: Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    the current DIY cals do have options for this size injector scaling in Chem2 or for SMEC cals, in the assembly setup. it will probably take some tweaking to get everything to be happy though.

    either way, good deal on these injectors.

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    Re: Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    Quote Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo View Post
    the current DIY cals do have options for this size injector scaling in Chem2 or for SMEC cals, in the assembly setup. it will probably take some tweaking to get everything to be happy though.

    either way, good deal on these injectors.

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    yep, he has said it all i know dcal as an option for 72lbs injectors not sure on 83's but i know im going with the 83s

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    Re: Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    chem2 has an option for 83's.

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    Re: Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    I ment to say chem2 has a setting for 72lbs, not dcal, good to know chem2 does support them

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    Re: Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris W View Post
    We now offer Seimens/Deka 72 and 83# injectors. These are the low impedance 2.4 ohm version injectors. Cost for a set of 4 is $240. and $260. respectively.

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    are these bigger then plus 40?

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    Re: Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    Quote Originally Posted by TurboII View Post
    are these bigger then plus 40?
    +40 are 52lbs at 50-55 psi fuel pressure. I believe that everyone else rates
    their injectors at 42ish lbs of static pressure. So yes.

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    Re: Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    +1, standard rating is @ 43psi....

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    Re: Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    so, what are these considered as +50's? lol

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    Re: Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    probably more like +120s

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    Re: Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    Quote Originally Posted by MopàrBCN View Post
    If you want to run savely above 300bhp those ones would be a must in my opinion - besides other things of couse. Yes the +40 thanks to rising rate in the FPR support in theory more then 300hp BUT I was talking about "savely running above 300hp".

    RE cals, those injectors are predefined for scaling on the cals on this board.
    If making your own cal is not yours it wouldn't be a technical problem for either the vendors or anyone here involved in making cals to set you up.

    But even if a cal wasn't scaled for those and you take boost control in you own hand, I think those injectors are great news. You still have the possibility to control A/F via the fuelpressure (although this would not be my preferred option).

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    I'm sorry to dispute your claims but you are wayyyyyy off. For 300+ hp a +40 is more that enough. A true 72 lb injector rated @ 43 psi will support closer to 450+ hp. Douching your cylinders is a bad idea even if this would start or stay running long enough to wash the cylinders.

    Go see www.rceng.com and use thier calculator to see my point.

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    Re: Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    I was only asking what people are using to take advantage of these since I know so few have aftermarket management.
    I don't support the use of stupid idiot fueling crap that I do on my car lol.

    Some 83's would be great for most of us to use e85.

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    Re: Siemens/Deka 72 and 83# Injectors

    I run e85 on my 40+s right now, 23lbs of boost from the stock turbo, with no detonation, around 18+ i had to increase the fp to make my af correct since the injectors pulse width wouldn't go any higher.

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