Why not dyno the car before the header comes off? Why does it have to be A-B? I know it will be more accurate for HP gains, but how can you market that gain for everyone's car. Unless you sell it as part of a package. There are so many combo's I doubt that the test car is even completly stock other than the header. If so even better, just dyno the car once the stocker is back on
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I think this is the truth behind it all. Now, the couple of hundred dollars of investment in labor and dyno time may be outweighed within a few additional units from people on the fence, but that's up to the vendor to decide how bad they need to move a product. I could see it making sense for a complete replacement unit over a ported stock unit from a business standpoint. You have something to prove. Opening up a stock piece is a bit simpler, with less questions from potential buyers.
Or at least someone who published the results. Surely someone else out there has done similar testing. Gary D did on cams back in the day in his Daytona at the track, although it was a less than ideal candidate to showcase cam profiles on, and so the results weren't exactly impressive.
Well I for one really appreciate you guys taking the time to do the R&D on this before releasing this to the masses. Not to mention spending your own money before asking others to commit to buying a product, especially when you guys aren't even vendors. Thanks guys!!
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OK, been too busy to read much of anything online lately but just catching up on threads I read the last page or so of this one and I would like to clarify something. The "testing" mensioned is more for performace and durability. Wanted to get some good runs on the part, put tons of heat into it and let it cool, see if it warps, cracks, etc. I never mentioned anything about this being a back to back test, and although others have, that was not planned as everyone's car and setup is different and even if it was compared to a cast FM header (what was on the Charger prior) or a ported stocker, there will be folks that would say it was done wrong anyway.
I do have an update. Due to a HG issue on the test car, and having to remove the head, the SS header might come off an the MS header proto go on so we can use the SS for fixtures. Will depend on if the MS fits with the same DP... Stay tuned.
Also, BTW... the header allows for both the turbo and manifold to be removed without the removal of the head, but this made it easy to look into now.
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Excellent news JT.
You tested it wrong anyway!
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Let's face it. This header with your intake will be ridiculous.
1989 FWD Turbo Caravan-2.5 TIII, GT35R, auto, a/c, cruise, pwr windows/locks, fully loaded with interior and ran with full exhaust. RETIRED FOR A FEW YEARS! 12.57@104 :O)
1984 Chev Getaway van, 6.2 Diesel with a remote mounted turbo setup burning WMO-For sale.
2003 GSW 2.0L TDI, auto, fully loaded, modified, 360K-wife's.
2004 GSW TDI, 5 speed, fully loaded, modified.
Aurora ignition wires for sale. Link to info
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Menegon or tvlant to come out of retirement lol. But if someone could point me in the direction of someone equally good that would be awesome as well
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But if that's a general question i want to eclipse an f40 in most performance categories :P
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I also want pancakes. Mmmmm pancakes
Pancakes?! IN!
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Wooooooo pancakes!
am I too late for the pancake gang bang??
[QUOTE=Khajjathefang;942976]Menegon or tvlant to come out of retirement lol. But if someone could point me in the direction of someone equally good that would be awesome as well
Im pretty certain Steve is doing cylinders heads again. Have you tried to contact him?
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1989 FWD Turbo Caravan-2.5 TIII, GT35R, auto, a/c, cruise, pwr windows/locks, fully loaded with interior and ran with full exhaust. RETIRED FOR A FEW YEARS! 12.57@104 :O)
1984 Chev Getaway van, 6.2 Diesel with a remote mounted turbo setup burning WMO-For sale.
2003 GSW 2.0L TDI, auto, fully loaded, modified, 360K-wife's.
2004 GSW TDI, 5 speed, fully loaded, modified.
Aurora ignition wires for sale. Link to info
Super60 roller cams or custom/billet cams. Link to info