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    Sledgehammer's New Breather

    Gang,

    Some of you know I am working on a new head for the 2.0 motor I plan to put in the car. I am going to give you some history on it and the current state of completion.

    I bought the casting from Glen Smith some years ago. I wanted to have it done in time for SDAC 13. The various machie shops and such that were to finish off the thing kept it on the back burner. The head was partially machined and still required the following: Valve guide holes, spark plug holes, valve seats, a combustion chamber, cam towers relieved, valve spring seats, and the intake/exhaust bolt holes.

    The head is unique in that the coolant passage behind the exhaust guide was filled in during the casting process. This is a major hurdle in getting the exhaust port to truly kick tail. I roughed them out, but all the ports were layed out to be 1/2" taller than the production position. A good friend and a guy who helped tremendously with advice (JS) did one like this, but his required a great deal of additional welding. The head then had the port floor on teh exhaust side welded up so the finished floor is the 1/2" higher that I mentioned previously. The intake port roofs were also welded up inside the valve cover area.

    To date, I have the following completed:

    Cam towers relieved. We had to do this to allow access for tooling and the valve springs.

    Guide holes done and Hemi guides installed. These guides are sunk into the standard 2.2 spring seat area and thus I have a stronger support for the guide. The guide tops are also a wee bit lower than factory so as when a higher lift roller stick becomes available, I will have no clearance issues. I cana lso use a metal clad Viton seal on these guides. They also take up less room on the port.

    Spark plug holes are drilled an tapped. I will be using a colder plug from the SRT4 family of plugs.

    The remaining work will commence Saturday. We have to manufacture some of our own tooling as what I need isn't available to cut the spring seat I need. I may use Manley's new springs for the 5.7 & 6.1 Hemi motor, but I am still undecided. The support around the guide is dictating what I can and cannot use.

    We will be making our own Beryllium/Copper exhaust seats and found an intake seat that will work. Once the seats are in, I will put in the combustion chambers. The short turns have gained .300" more than what they had stock. The ports have a much straighter shot to the valve.

    If this doesn't work, I have a ported SRT4 head under construction.

    Steve M.

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    Re: Sledgehammer's New Breather

    Awesome stuff Steve! Can't wait to see this thing in action! I knew you could leave heads alone!


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    Re: Sledgehammer's New Breather

    Wow, that is awesome. I hope to have any thing approaching that kind of ability some day.

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    The valve seats are in and the chambers are complete. Loads of quench in the chambers. Each chamber took 2 hours to complete and the valves stick out past the deck when at .430" valve lift. Hopefully the flow numbers will be there when the ports are complete. The exhaust side are all but done. The intake side will require many more hours to finish. Tooling to cut the spring seats has begun. We made up the base tool, but have to slot it and tack in the carbides. Decision on the spring is to use the same spring I have been using.

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    Re: Sledgehammer's New Breather

    You shoudl give us some pics!
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    Re: Sledgehammer's New Breather

    Sounds interesting!! I feel that the real power an 8V head can produce has still yet to be tapped into. I agree that raising the ports is a very good place to start! The last bit of port work I did on my head seems to have really paid off big time. I have never had an 8V myself, that would continue to build power all the way to rev limit. I've got to get that raised. It will actually slow my car down. And yes, some pictures would be cool

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    Re: Sledgehammer's New Breather

    Quote Originally Posted by BadFastGTC



    We will be making our own Beryllium/Copper exhaust seats

    Steve M.
    Just a heads up in case your machinist doesn't know, use a good respirator while working beryllium; it's very unhealthy stuff to inhale.

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    Re: Sledgehammer's New Breather

    Wow Steve, sounds like this thing is gonna haul. Pics would be awesome.


    Is the filled in coolant passage a mistake or was it done on purpose? Is it a Dodge head or Glen's? Just curious,
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    Re: Sledgehammer's New Breather

    Kinda like the cheater heads, or the IMSA heads. I forget the company that cast these up, but I believe one was on ebay a couple years back and was labeled a "pink" head or something. Mancini racing...or one of the other Mopar rwd vendors that used to venture into 2.2 fwd as well. I am sure Steve will set the story straight as I forget what even he told me a few months back. D$%N short term memory!
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    Re: Sledgehammer's New Breather

    If this doesn't work, I have a ported SRT4 head under construction.

    Steve M.

    That would be giving up now woulden't it? Hehehe...........

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    Re: Sledgehammer's New Breather

    Give up? Never! I could use the SRT head on the Shelby......



    Quote Originally Posted by TurboJerry
    If this doesn't work, I have a ported SRT4 head under construction.

    Steve M.

    That would be giving up now woulden't it? Hehehe...........

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    Re: Sledgehammer's New Breather

    Short term memory loss, eh? The casting wasn't one of the old IMSA heads. I have one of those here that needs all the machining done. Far too much expense for the return on that investment. This casting came from Glen Smith and it was on e-Bay. I chose the "Buy It Now" option. I don't know what the terminology is for this casting.



    Quote Originally Posted by Directconnection
    Kinda like the cheater heads, or the IMSA heads. I forget the company that cast these up, but I believe one was on ebay a couple years back and was labeled a "pink" head or something. Mancini racing...or one of the other Mopar rwd vendors that used to venture into 2.2 fwd as well. I am sure Steve will set the story straight as I forget what even he told me a few months back. D$%N short term memory!

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    Yessir, the head is said to glow in the dark when all the lights are off in the shop! I actually was able to track down a seat that works without buying barstock at $22.00/LB. They weren't listed in any catalog and are a motorcycle application. All we'll have to do is cut them out on the Serdi when the time comes. Up to that point, I still have a ton of work to do. Dust masks are a must with this material!


    Quote Originally Posted by John B
    Just a heads up in case your machinist doesn't know, use a good respirator while working beryllium; it's very unhealthy stuff to inhale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadFastGTC
    Short term memory loss, eh? The casting wasn't one of the old IMSA heads. I have one of those here that needs all the machining done. Far too much expense for the return on that investment. This casting came from Glen Smith and it was on e-Bay. I chose the "Buy It Now" option. I don't know what the terminology is for this casting.
    Yes... something about a "pink head" or something that was on ebay a few years ago, right? Offered from Koffel's or some Mopar speed shop like them, correct?
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    Re: Sledgehammer's New Breather

    I don't believe it was offered for sale ever. they may "float" around rarely today, but I believe it was only a "race" head. The general public could not buy them when they were new.....(or you had to be hooked up with someone at Mopar) I don't think there's a name for it either. I'm not sure though?????

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    Re: Sledgehammer's New Breather

    I had seen one on e-bay a while back...


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    Re: Sledgehammer's New Breather

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank
    You shoudl give us some pics!
    I've worked on that one Frank. I tried to upload a few shots, couldn't get anywhere, and realized the files were too freaking large! Now, after a few minor adjustments, I have some!
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    Full chamber shot.
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    Closer shot
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    Re: Sledgehammer's New Breather

    That's a good looking head. Looks like the chambers were based off a G head. I have been thinking about having my G head welded up some in the combustion chambers and then recontouring them to a similar shape.

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