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    Re: omni axles

    Quote Originally Posted by cordes View Post
    Some int. shafts are indeed the smaller spline size even if they didn't come in an L body. The 86' and earlier cars all got small spline axles. I found that out the hard way when I swapped the 523 into my 600 only to have it not move due to the small axles and int. shaft.
    Yes you are correct. That is why I specified cars with the 555 trans in my post.

    I was under the impression the L-bodies had a shorter shaft. Does that make the L's caucasian?
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    Re: omni axles

    Quote Originally Posted by cordes View Post
    I didn't know that. I would have thought the int. shafts would have been the same length and that they would have just made the difference up with the axles, but I guess that would put you at a different driver's and pass side axle again...
    From my experience if you just keep the shaft and the bracket hat connects it to the engine together they all end up the same length. If you mix and match the shafts with the brackets then things get tricky...

    I am almost certain that the brackets are only different due to the different bearings that are used...

    The overall lengths have to be the same or the hybrid (small outer, big innner) intermediate shaft that so many (including myself) have used with a stock lbody half shaft on a large spline tranny wouldn't work...

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    Re: omni axles

    Quote Originally Posted by rbryant View Post
    From my experience if you just keep the shaft and the bracket hat connects it to the engine together they all end up the same length. If you mix and match the shafts with the brackets then things get tricky...

    I am almost certain that the brackets are only different due to the different bearings that are used...

    The overall lengths have to be the same or the hybrid (small outer, big innner) intermediate shaft that so many (including myself) have used with a stock lbody half shaft on a large spline tranny wouldn't work...

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    That makes sense too... I was led to believe that the int. shaft in my omni came out of a daytona so maybe that's true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cordes View Post
    That makes sense too... I was led to believe that the int. shaft in my omni came out of a daytona so maybe that's true.

    Guess it depends if you have the L body bearing and bracket setup. The L body has a D shaped bearing, the cars and van's have that thick metal bracket that bolts to the block and the bearing has small ears that bolt to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    Guess it depends if you have the L body bearing and bracket setup. The L body has a D shaped bearing, the cars and van's have that thick metal bracket that bolts to the block and the bearing has small ears that bolt to it.
    Do you have pics of the two? I thought the one in the omni which I stripped had the ears. I've seen both styles though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cordes View Post
    Do you have pics of the two? I thought the one in the omni which I stripped had the ears. I've seen both styles though.
    I think I have an L body one kicking around, I'll snap some pics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    Guess it depends if you have the L body bearing and bracket setup. The L body has a D shaped bearing, the cars and van's have that thick metal bracket that bolts to the block and the bearing has small ears that bolt to it.
    Not really. You're only going to have a small 525 bearing bracket set up. So none of the non L bodies that are on an 87 or later is going to have the L body bearing/bracket because is won't have a 525.

    I hope I explained my argument so it doesn't sound that I'm TOO argumenitive.

    To be honost, I've never even taken notice to the difference between the 525's and "the rest of them" because I always use the 87+ intermediete shaft with all my L bodys if they didn't still have a 525 in it.

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    Hey. Whats up. Im new to this conversation. I read it from the begining and haven't gotten a complete answer to my situation. Seems like you guys may know whats going on. I have an 88 shelby z daytona that Im using as a turbo parts car for my 89 omni. I currently have the 5 lug/all wheel disc brake setup on the omni from the z. The 3 piece equal length setup fit in and worked fine with the front on jack stands but when i put it on the ground and drove it, it seemed that the shafts were to long and made a horrible grinding and appeared to be forcing the engine from side to side. So now its back to the 2 piece. My question is, is the equal length setup stronger? I was told from someone local it is. Im not entirely sure he knows for sure.

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    Welcome to the forum!

    L-bodies like your Omni need shorter axles than all the other bodies. If you kept the trans out of the Daytona, use two '89 Omni Automotic drivers side axles, one in each side, using teh same intermediate shaft you have now.

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    Thanks. Any idea where I could find shifter cables for the 555?

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    Re: omni axles

    Quote Originally Posted by rosie View Post
    Not really. You're only going to have a small 525 bearing bracket set up. So none of the non L bodies that are on an 87 or later is going to have the L body bearing/bracket because is won't have a 525.

    I hope I explained my argument so it doesn't sound that I'm TOO argumenitive.

    To be honost, I've never even taken notice to the difference between the 525's and "the rest of them" because I always use the 87+ intermediete shaft with all my L bodys if they didn't still have a 525 in it.

    Actually, even the 88-90 Omnis had a 525, if they came 5-spd (which got pretty rare in later years). But, none were turbo after 87, so none got intermediate shaft setups.

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    Re: omni axles

    Thee 555 is what im taking out of the daytona. The omni is automatic now and non turbo. Im in the locating parts stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickbrungard View Post
    Thee 555 is what im taking out of the daytona. The omni is automatic now and non turbo. Im in the locating parts stage.
    You can get the shifter cables out of any car which had a 555 or 520 in it. That's most 5 speed cars from 87 to 89.

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    Thanks. Are there any companies that still make these? I would rather order new if possible. I've looked but im not very good at this sort of thing.

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    Re: omni axles

    Napa and Carquest I think.

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    ok. Thanks. I'll check if they list them for the 520 application but i tried them for the 555 and had no luck.

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    I have heard that the parts store ones suck. They would probably be much cheaper and better quality if you get them from the JY. I should also point out that you can convert the 555 to be rod shifted and make some sweet rods to boot.

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    Im not sure exactly what the gain or how that would be done. Forgive me im kinda new to this. I noticed omni-potent has a kit to do it but i don't fully understand it. Of course i would imagine it replaces the cables with some sort of rod but its not a strait shot so how would that be accomplished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickbrungard View Post
    ok. Thanks. I'll check if they list them for the 520 application but i tried them for the 555 and had no luck.
    The Shadow cables are supposed to be shorter than the Daytona ones. You should be able to look for a Shadow with either 520 or 555.
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    what about an 88 lebaron. Im looking at a post(5sp conversion parts) and it seems to be exactly what i need. Do you know if this will work?

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