Any intrest in direct fit camber plates?

[rbryant]

Any idea on price? I really need to start saving,

Ahh yes the ultimate question...

I am shooting for $250 or less per set (both front pates) so that more people can afford them. That isn't bad considering that most camber plates that I have priced are ~$400. per set.

I will use a similar pricing calculation to what I do on the other waterjet stuff (cam adapters, etc). I hope to have it even cheaper but I don't have the prototype yet because the waterjet guy is pretty busy right now. He gives better prices if he knows I have been waiting a while so it is good for all of us to be patient.

They also require some extra machining for the bearing seat so I have to talk to him about that once I have the blanks. I don't have a mill so I can't do all of the extra machining myself home like I did for the cam adapters.

I still don't compete very well with big companies for prioirty in the cut line but hope to get something this week.

-Rich

[turbovanman²]

Not a bad price at all,

[Vigo]

I cut the spring perch off just above the weld and then put a ground control perch pad above that. So my coilovers don't have that issue at all.

I have seen some people use ebay kits that are actually supported by a perch just above the knuckle and in that case your concern is valid. Overall that isn't how it should be done though.

ahh, good to know!

Helps me because i was thinking about converting to 2g neon struts+coilovers on my dynasty, but if i would lose even a few millimeters of clearance between tire and strut i couldnt do it. Clearance there with my 245/40r17s is VERY tight. Cant space wheels outward either, or they'd just hit the fender lip against the tread of the tire on compression.

so here's a thought. if you make a plate that will work with a 2g neon strut and the k-car strut tower, i could get any badass adjustable strut i wanted, any coilover spring rate i wanted, get my camber curve back at a lower ride height and still run my huge 245s...

[rbryant]

ahh, good to know!

Helps me because i was thinking about converting to 2g neon struts+coilovers on my dynasty, but if i would lose even a few millimeters of clearance between tire and strut i couldnt do it. Clearance there with my 245/40r17s is VERY tight. Cant space wheels outward either, or they'd just hit the fender lip against the tread of the tire on compression.

so here's a thought. if you make a plate that will work with a 2g neon strut and the k-car strut tower, i could get any badass adjustable strut i wanted, any coilover spring rate i wanted, get my camber curve back at a lower ride height and still run my huge 245s...

Overall the coilovers should give you MORE wheel clearence since the large spring perch is removed.

The strut tower shouldn't be a big deal. I just need to go to the junkyard and take some measurements and get a spring hat to mock it up against. The real difference is just the way the strut shaft connects into the adjuster. I am using an oversized bearing so I will just make 2-3 different types of bushings that go into the adjuster so people can use whatever strut they like.

I also need to take some measurements on the strut shafts to make the bushings but the adjuster is currently the top priority!

I will make it work. It should open up a lot more strut options as you pointed out which will be reall valuable because the Kcar konis are NS1 now.

-Rich

[turbovanman²]

Overall the coilovers should give you MORE wheel clearence since the large spring perch is removed.
-Rich

Not true, it depends on where the coil spring perch is. I had a set of coilovers on the van, and the spring perch collar was aprox half way down the tire so without spacers, it wouldn't clear so I had to wind the collar up to clear. To fix, I would have had to run a shorter spring.

[rbryant]

Not true, it depends on where the coil spring perch is. I had a set of coilovers on the van, and the spring perch collar was aprox half way down the tire so without spacers, it wouldn't clear so I had to wind the collar up to clear. To fix, I would have had to run a shorter spring.

I should have clarified:

Assuming that the collar starts in the same position as the stock spring perch it is true.

On my lbody I have 8" springs with the collar starting in the stock locatoin to get near stock ride height (with daytona struts). I don't see a reason to lower the perch from stock. Springs are only $50-75 each from Eibach the last time I checked and the stock perch is easy to modify to hold a collar.

-Rich

[Frank]

I think Vigo was concerned about the perch which is now gone because of his tire height.

[Aries_Turbo]

didnt 1g neon konis go the way of the dodo too?

Brian

[rbryant]

didnt 1g neon konis go the way of the dodo too?

Brian

Shox.com still lists the koni sports. They are better than the kcar struts which were from the special line.

There are tokico's, B&G, and a number of others available for the 1G neon.

I will do some more research on the topic but I should be able to support pretty much any of the options...

-Rich

[Aries_Turbo]

cool

[Vigo]

my clearance issue is between the tire and the strut body.. anybody running tires less than like 25.5" outside diameter should be ok with the k-car spring perch location.. but i havent really looked to see if the neon struts perch location will be a problem for those running tall tires. honestly, i like a shorter tire on these cars but then you have to lower it more to get a good wheelgap and sticking with stock struts makes that a pretty bumpy, uncontrolled ride. my aries actually bottoms out the struts in the front with 23" tires and a lot of lowering, which is why anything that would allow me to use shorter neon struts would dramatically improve its ride and handling.

[rbryant]

It looks like some progress is finally being made on these.

Would people be willing to put a $50 deposit on these so I know how many to make and how serious people are?

Also, if someone happens to have the inside diameter measurement of the center strut tower hole on a daytona that would help. I the dimensions all out but forgot that meausurement and my dimensions depend on it... If not I will get it from the junkyard over the weekend.

Thanks,

Rich

[2.216VTurbo]

I'll pay in full if one of the first sets has my name on it... PM me your Paypal addy.

[minigts]

Andy Stachar in Memphis was asking me about my camber plates, but this looks like a better solution for those who don't want to modify the strut towers. I'll send him a PM and mention this; maybe he'll be interested.

[crazymadbastard]

Before commiting, what do you figure it would cost? I want one for a 92 Lebaron gtc convertible, the hole at the top of the strut tower is 2.24 inches.

[rbryant]

Before commiting, what do you figure it would cost? I want one for a 92 Lebaron gtc convertible, the hole at the top of the strut tower is 2.24 inches.

Thanks for the measurement!

I will get a full cost next week and won't take deposits before then so that everyone knows exactly what the details are.

I don't know what the full setup fees for the machine work will be yet.

The main reason for the deposit is so I make the right number of them. I have have a bunch of cam adapters laying around because I made more than what people bought and I don't want to do that again.

-Rich

[zin]

I have have a bunch of cam adapters laying around because I made more than what people bought and I don't want to do that again.

-Rich

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Mike

[rbryant]

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Mike

Too much inventory is bad especially when sales don't cover the cost of the production run. That I don't want to repeat.

-Rich

[Clay]

I would be interested. These will fit l-bodies correct?

[badandy]

P-Body?