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    Turbonator LM codebase

    Here is my 'Turbonator LM' codebase and assembled cals. This was originally based on and used the same naming conventions as Geoff's BB60. But, it is now a completely separate codebase with naming conventions that match T-SMEC and T-SBEC, plus this has a bunch of new features.

    Here's a list of the new features:


    1) Replaced TRANSM with CONFIG - a full cal option flag constant similar to the CONFIG constant + OPTION flags used on the '89 T1. Changed all of the auto trans checks to look for the 'new' auto config flag. All of the new and previous cal options are configurable by config flags. This allows features to be added to the cal without the need to re-assemble the code (or re-tune the cal to your setup!). The option flags are currently only supported in CHeM1 and D-Cal. CHeM2 has not added these types back in yet.

    2) Added switchable boost. Similar in operation to my '89 T1 code, but the low setting is set by a single constant rather than a boost x rpm table (similar to the S60 implementation). Due to the way that boost is calculated, the extra table in the later code is really not needed.

    3) Added alky injection control routine (basically designed by Brian Bucar, I just wrote the code based on how he wanted the system to work...). The alky injection can control the pump and up to 2 separate alky injectors, triggered by MAP constants. This uses the Cruise, and EGR/Purge solenoids. So, cannot be used with those at the same time. Also cannot be used with the Speed Sensitive Aero option at at the same time. The code checks if both options are enabled, if they are, then neither will run.

    4) Added Anti-lag Retard routine. This routine looks at the delta to boost goal and pulls up to 16 deg based on this delta (could be configured for 32 degrees as well). It will only pull timing at WOT (and so should not affect emmisions or driveability) except when the staging limiter is active to help spoolup off the line for manual cars. There were some necessary changes to the staging limiter code to support this function. But, the functionality of the staging limiter is the same as previous.

    5) Staging Limiter Changes. Added the option to enable the staging limiter by switch. Default is setup for the brake switch (useful for ATX cars). Other changes to support the Anti-Lag retard routine.

    7) Added code to re-scale the Vol Eff table to 50-150% to allow for induction systems capable of over 100% Vol Eff. This is removed at this time - not working.

    I also have a 'Turbonator SMEC' and 'Turbonator SBEC' built, and they are now posted in this section as well.


    6/8/11 - V13 Now posted.
    - Updated for MP Tuner 2 compatibility.
    - Added Selective Bank Enrichment.


    11/2/11 - Update now posted:
    For use only with MP Tuner 2

    - Added the calculated tables to the templates to show the total timing in 3D
    - Added the PumpShot subgroup to transient fuel and moved the relevant tables over
    - Updated the 2.5 Templates with corrected cold load cal data (for rich idle issue)


    July 2017 - Update now posted:
    Fixed the AIS Stepper pattern in some templates.




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    Re: Turbonator LM codebase

    So can this cal be adjusted using ChEM?
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    Re: Turbonator LM codebase

    Of course - it comes with the .calx file. But, CHeM2 doesn't support the bit flag constant type that CHeM1 and D-Cal support. So, you won't be able to set the option flags with CHeM2.
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    Re: Turbonator LM codebase

    hehe, more stuff I dont understand. Ill get there someday, hopefully!

    Thanks again Rob! Lots of good stuff being put out there for us to play with, and for free. That right there says and does alot to advance this hobby of ours!
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    Re: Turbonator LM codebase

    Thanks for posting this up over here Rob. I will be replacing the wheel bearings in my omni this upcoming week, so I will have the car out on the road once again. I will try to make sure that everything is running well, and give your cal a go again.

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    Re: Turbonator LM codebase

    so how do you set this switchable boost? with a switch to ground?
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    Re: Turbonator LM codebase

    Nevermind.... I think I got it!
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    Re: Turbonator LM codebase

    Quote Originally Posted by Clay View Post
    and another question (get used to this! )

    how do I know which version of ChEM I have? I think I have ChEM 2, but Im not sure.

    thanks,
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    If you have the one that looks pretty much like D-cal, that is chem1. If you have the one with the larger display, and the fueling guidelines that is chem2.

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    Re: Turbonator LM codebase

    and this is where I have no clue. I can find the "switchableboostlowsetpoint", but how do you do anything with it?

    Cal Programming 101!!!!!!!!
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    Re: Turbonator LM codebase

    Quote Originally Posted by Clay View Post
    and this is where I have no clue. I can find the "switchableboostlowsetpoint", but how do you do anything with it?

    Cal Programming 101!!!!!!!!

    Are you using Chem1? I find it much harder to edit this cal with it, as chem2 doesn't have all of the features needed to adjust everything. I am at school, otherwise I would be all over this.

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    Re: Turbonator LM codebase

    yup, Im looking at it in Chem1 because Rob said the switchable boost wont work in Chem2.

    Also, with this no lag feature, will you build lots of boost at the line? A local DSM guy has some kind of no lab "thingy" on his car which lets him leave at 25+ psi!!!!!! Thing launches like a freight train!
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    Re: Turbonator LM codebase

    Quote Originally Posted by Clay View Post
    yup, Im looking at it in Chem1 because Rob said the switchable boost wont work in Chem2.

    Also, with this no lag feature, will you build lots of boost at the line? A local DSM guy has some kind of no lab "thingy" on his car which lets him leave at 25+ psi!!!!!! Thing launches like a freight train!
    Yes, the timing being pulled should spool the turbo at the line.

    ETA: with the staging mod I was able to build about 6PSI at the line, and I am having WG issues. When it pulls timing we should be able to build boost like it is nobody's business.

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    Re: Turbonator LM codebase

    What is this base for? +20's, 3 bar, 2.2 and stock swirl head?
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    Re: Turbonator LM codebase

    Quote Originally Posted by DodgeZ View Post
    What is this base for? +20's, 3 bar, 2.2 and stock swirl head?

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    Re: Turbonator LM codebase

    87 2.2 TII, so what ever came with that Im assuming. IF Im understanding this correctly, Rob took the BB60 code, kept all the good apects of it, and reset some items back to stock (like timing). Then he added a few more features.

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    Re: Turbonator LM codebase

    Quote Originally Posted by cordes View Post
    +40s. Although you can change that easily in chem2 by using the drop down menu.
    are you sure? Mine shows out of the box is scaled for 33 lb/hr injectors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clay View Post
    are you sure? Mine shows out of the box is scaled for 33 lb/hr injectors.
    I thought it was, but with the scaling being so easy with chem2 I suppose I could have changed it so fast that I forgot I had to do it in the first place. It runs well for me, and I have +40s, so if it doesn't come that way I did scale it.

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    Re: Turbonator LM codebase

    This is based on the 'stock' version of BB60 that a couple of guys on MoparChem did (sorry, I forgot your names right now...). So, it's 100% stock as-is. You'd have to set the switches in the assy and re-assemble for 3-bar. And then use D-Cal or CHeM2 to re-scale the fuel tables.

    The cal (and all options) will work just fine in CHeM2, BTW. It's just that the option flags don't display properly. So, to use them, you'd need to know the right hex number for the options you want. Not the most user-friendly...
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    building the boost at the line is nice but with my 2.5 anymore than 2750rpms and 0-1psi and the tires just go up in smoke. Although at that I can cut 2.1 60fts on street tires. Now with slicks maybe 4 grand and 6psi would work great The best part about the 2 step rev limit is intimidating ricers. Just pull up next to them and stand on it then disengage it and launch normally on the street Rob can't wait to try your smec setup. My 2.2 T2 Auto new yorker is seriously needing a calibration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cordes View Post
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