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    NEW lifters for race applications

    we are currently testing a new lifter. These are almost identical to the stock lifter but are approx. 1mm longer so if you are using a regrind that requires shims, this will go in without having to use a shim. it has a large bleed hole on the top, and can withstand a lot more abuse and rpm than our other lifters. We have tried them on our drag car, w/o issue, but before we release them for sale, I'd like to try them in a couple of road race applications. If you know anyone running one of our regrinds and they have a motor that easily spins past 7K, we would like to talk to them.
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    Re: NEW lifters for race applications

    Will they work with a stock cam (ie, NOT reground)?
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    Re: NEW lifters for race applications

    Once head gasket changed and a day at the track,the cam is goin in!(hint,hint)

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    Re: NEW lifters for race applications

    I can spin my 2.2 with a F4 cam easily to 7500....

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    Re: NEW lifters for race applications

    Cool. Do they work with the stock cams? I am assuming no. If not, will you be releasing these for stock cam applications as well?
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    Re: NEW lifters for race applications

    So, are these like long PT lifters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Directconnection View Post
    Cool. Do they work with the stock cams? I am assuming no. If not, will you be releasing these for stock cam applications as well?
    Why wouldn't they? it would mean just more preload. 1mm is not much.
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    Re: NEW lifters for race applications

    first off they are 91 thousand longer than stock. I thought the PT was shorter than stock not longer, but since I do not have a PT one here, I cannot tell you how much they are different from the PT. My understanding was that the PT required several shims. Could you use these with a stock cam? maybe but I don't see why. I mean why have a bad --- lifter and just use a stock cam when there are so many good profile cams available that make more power.
    Kevyn, hurry down......we are waiting for ya!!.........
    still loookign for a road racer. I want to test these at a tarck where someone is running high rpms for a sustained period. I know they will work 1/4 mile at a time already.
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    Re: NEW lifters for race applications

    Quote Originally Posted by glhs727 View Post
    first off they are 91 thousand longer than stock. I thought the PT was shorter than stock not longer, but since I do not have a PT one here, I cannot tell you how much they are different from the PT. My understanding was that the PT required several shims. Could you use these with a stock cam? maybe but I don't see why. I mean why have a bad --- lifter and just use a stock cam when there are so many good profile cams available that make more power.
    Kevyn, hurry down......we are waiting for ya!!.........
    still loookign for a road racer. I want to test these at a tarck where someone is running high rpms for a sustained period. I know they will work 1/4 mile at a time already.
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    Ahhhh, that makes sense, , I think people got confused with the PT thing.

    Yes, the PT's are shorter than stock, I have the spec somewhere but if memory serves, there around .064"
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    Re: NEW lifters for race applications

    cindy - would these work in a street/strip car?
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    Re: NEW lifters for race applications

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    Ahhhh, that makes sense, , I think people got confused with the PT thing.

    Yes, the PT's are shorter than stock, I have the spec somewhere but if memory serves, there around .064"
    The two washers that Rob sent me for use with the PT lifters were each .061" thick for a total of .122" shim. Does anyone know the factory preload on the stock lifter/follower?
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    Re: NEW lifters for race applications

    Quote Originally Posted by glhs727 View Post
    first off they are 91 thousand longer than stock. Cindy
    I don't want to be argumentative, but 1mm is .0394"
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    Re: NEW lifters for race applications

    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    The two washers that Rob sent me for use with the PT lifters were each .061" thick for a total of .122" shim.
    Ok, that sounds right, its in my faq but too lazy to look,
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    Re: NEW lifters for race applications

    Quote Originally Posted by glhs727 View Post
    ...We have tried them on our drag car, w/o issue, but before we release them for sale, I'd like to try them in a couple of road race applications. If you know anyone running one of our regrinds and they have a motor that easily spins past 7K, we would like to talk to them.
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    Good call on testing in a road racer, stock lifters live past 7k fine in a street/strip car

    So FWDP has a drag car now? Since when? Pics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moparzrule View Post
    Helloooooo.......
    As they are still in test, I'm not sure they have been priced. Give her a call if you need a better answer then that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Good call on testing in a road racer, stock lifters live past 7k fine in a street/strip car

    So FWDP has a drag car now? Since when? Pics?
    I've had the car for a while now. We don't promote it very much and I prefer to take cars to events that I can road and drag race. I've actually never taken any pictures of it and it needs paint. I do have some in car video of a pass where I blew the head gasket. The car started as Gary McKissic's (SP?) "Sleeper". When we received it, it was supposed to do 11's right off the trailer. Instead, I had to gut it and start over. It was a complete POS! hacked wiring, leaky injectors, blown turbo.......total crap. Since then, I've done a lot of work to it and ran 7.0 in the 1/8th while trying to work the tune. I need to beef up the trans a bit, I'd like a tran's brake for it and I want to put my header equal length header on it. It takes time and money though.
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    Man! No wonder he gave up on the long rod project!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesL View Post
    I've had the car for a while now. We don't promote it very much and I prefer to take cars to events that I can road and drag race. I've actually never taken any pictures of it and it needs paint. I do have some in car video of a pass where I blew the head gasket. The car started as Gary McKissic's (SP?) "Sleeper". When we received it, it was supposed to do 11's right off the trailer. Instead, I had to gut it and start over. It was a complete POS! hacked wiring, leaky injectors, blown turbo.......total crap. Since then, I've done a lot of work to it and ran 7.0 in the 1/8th while trying to work the tune. I need to beef up the trans a bit, I'd like a tran's brake for it and I want to put my header equal length header on it. It takes time and money though.
    I remember that car from ~15 years ago... would have been nice to see Garry finish it the way he wanted to.

    So thats now the official FWD-P drag / product test car? You should show off what it's got to help promote FWD-P and your products

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    Thats fine, but the answer would have been nice a week ago when I first asked

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    I remember that car from ~15 years ago... would have been nice to see Garry finish it the way he wanted to.

    So thats now the official FWD-P drag / product test car? You should show off what it's got to help promote FWD-P and your products

    BTW, sorry to hijack...
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