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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper1 View Post
    You better get to work then!
    If someone models the case I can do some FEA. I have too many of my own things to pull it all off.

    That being said, there are some good free tools that anyone can use to get things done.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by turboshad View Post
    The backwards rotation should put that area into compression. Compression doesn't generally produce fatigue cracking but as you said it does still remove stress that doesn't need to be there. Without doing some FEA on the part it's hard to say anything for sure.
    True and I had forgotten that area would be, however, could that added compression plus the flexing in that area be the cause? It is seeing way more force than stock.
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Practiced welding on a previous case... I'll post a pic later. Let's just say a LOT of stuff creeped out and it was very difficult to get the puddle to stick to anything even filler rod.

    I need a better way to clean, maybe bake in oven (thanks for the idea DJ) but until I figure out the more clean and get more practice and more time.... I'm going to throw this one together without added bracing and launch like grandma again this year...

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Practiced welding on a previous case... I'll post a pic later. Let's just say a LOT of stuff creeped out and it was very difficult to get the puddle to stick to anything even filler rod.

    I need a better way to clean, maybe bake in oven (thanks for the idea DJ) but until I figure out the more clean and get more practice and more time.... I'm going to throw this one together without added bracing and launch like grandma again this year...
    I know the case I tried to weld turned out like absolute junk. Too embarrassed to post any pics. My dad thinks if we were to get the case hot tanked, it would weld up better. I will use my busted in two piece case to practice on, with the hopes I can still salvage the other case which just had minor cracks around the upper mounting flange.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Practiced welding on a previous case... I'll post a pic later. Let's just say a LOT of stuff creeped out and it was very difficult to get the puddle to stick to anything even filler rod.

    I need a better way to clean, maybe bake in oven (thanks for the idea DJ) but until I figure out the more clean and get more practice and more time.... I'm going to throw this one together without added bracing and launch like grandma again this year...
    Last I checked I have about 20 gallons of aluminum cleaner/brightener at my place your welcome to as much as you need
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by shmedley View Post
    Last I checked I have about 20 gallons of aluminum cleaner/brightener at my place your welcome to as much as you need
    Hmm, I'll keep that in mind, thanks!

    Some pics of practice welding. It really did not want to take it with many adjustments to the settings. Crap just kept coming out of the pores
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    So, I guess I'll be nice as possible to this one. Some pics of the intended bracing which never happened
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    And some pics of the new bullet, ready for action.. I hope
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Ha! Love the serial number tag! At first I thought it was just a tag that you had made, but a closer look reveals it's the (or an) original.
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Hmm, I'll keep that in mind, thanks!

    Some pics of practice welding. It really did not want to take it with many adjustments to the settings. Crap just kept coming out of the pores
    Were you using MIG or TIG? On my cracked case I tried to TIG it, but it was really pulling crap out of the pores. I have a MIG with a mini-spool for aluminum work, which I would like to try next, but I'm sure the results will be the same.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    My fingers are crossed for you, JT. Without jinxing you, it seems like your engine is rock-steady reliable. I'm really hoping to see your drivetrain hold what the engine can deliver.
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by jonnymopar View Post
    Ha! Love the serial number tag! At first I thought it was just a tag that you had made, but a closer look reveals it's the (or an) original.
    That's actually the tag from the last trans a few pages back from about a year ago. Was easier to transfer than to make another, LOL. But for archival reasons I did take a picture of this trans' tag

    Quote Originally Posted by MoparStephen View Post
    Were you using MIG or TIG? On my cracked case I tried to TIG it, but it was really pulling crap out of the pores. I have a MIG with a mini-spool for aluminum work, which I would like to try next, but I'm sure the results will be the same.
    Miller Syncrowave 200 TIG. I think it needs to be cooked to clean it out, but might try Shmedley's stuff mentioned above first just to see.

    Quote Originally Posted by contraption22 View Post
    My fingers are crossed for you, JT. Without jinxing you, it seems like your engine is rock-steady reliable. I'm really hoping to see your drivetrain hold what the engine can deliver.
    Thanks Mike, I hope it's not a jinx either, LOL! Honestly due to traction I haven't really turned it up yet, still around 29psi, so that probably helps too. I *hope* I can grandma it into living a season like last one did thru SDAC, Mopar Nats, Drag Week and a couple more track days in between. Thinking back, last trip out last fall, I did try the 2-step on lower boost launch and that alone might be the culprit.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    That's actually the tag from the last trans a few pages back from about a year ago. Was easier to transfer than to make another, LOL. But for archival reasons I did take a picture of this trans' tag



    Miller Syncrowave 200 TIG. I think it needs to be cooked to clean it out, but might try Shmedley's stuff mentioned above first just to see.



    Thanks Mike, I hope it's not a jinx either, LOL! Honestly due to traction I haven't really turned it up yet, still around 29psi, so that probably helps too. I *hope* I can grandma it into living a season like last one did thru SDAC, Mopar Nats, Drag Week and a couple more track days in between. Thinking back, last trip out last fall, I did try the 2-step on lower boost launch and that alone might be the culprit.
    Why do you think the 2 step with lower boost would cause it? Dead hook?
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by contraption22 View Post
    Why do you think the 2 step with lower boost would cause it? Dead hook?
    The impact of the hit from the 2-step and even on low-boost the 2-step builds boost at the line. No 2-step 0 boost launch and more clutch slippage

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Traction, power and a heavy car is the reason you are murdering these transmissions.... Not being negative here, been following this thread and hope you find a solution! Good luck.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 85glht View Post
    Traction, power and a heavy car is the reason you are murdering these transmissions.... Not being negative here, been following this thread and hope you find a solution! Good luck.
    You are correct! And Thanks! me too!

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    Have access to a dynasty 350? Try High cleaning amps but short clean time,
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    I wish! My Syncrowave 250 (1993 vintage) has a clean/penetration setting plus arc control and I tried many iterations. it was just too dirty... next step baking I think

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    I wish! My Syncrowave 250 (1993 vintage) has a clean/penetration setting plus arc control and I tried many iterations. it was just too dirty... next step baking I think
    I was using a very old but mint Econotig 150A. My dad bought it when I graduated HS in 93 I managed to digitize the instructional VHS that came with it, if anyone is interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou9LwwnJhnI

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

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    I wish! My Syncrowave 250 (1993 vintage) has a clean/penetration setting plus arc control and I tried many iterations. it was just too dirty... next step baking I think
    Htp221 also has independent amp control. Seen some good welds directly onto corroded intake manifold flanges with basically just a little stainless rotor wire brush and clean.
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ondonti View Post
    Htp221 also has independent amp control. Seen some good welds directly onto corroded intake manifold flanges with basically basically just basically just a basically just a little rotor wire brush and clean.
    Basically what he said.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Some good tips in here near the end.

    http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...uminum-177733/

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