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Thread: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Not a suggestion, it's the rule. Now rules are open to interpretation of course, but its pretty clear what its asking for. I wonder what happened to re-write the rule

    From 2013 Rule Book:

    ""D" Bar installation for full bodied cars: For front-wheel-drive cars, with complete OEM floor (from firewall to rear of the trunk) and rocker and sill boxes, the 1 1/4-inch x .058-inch CM (.118-inch MS) "D" bars (when required; i.e., when the main hoop is not welded to the frame) may be welded to a 1 5/8-inch x .083-inch CM (.118-inch MS) crossmember welded to the rocker/sill box via conventional 6-inch x 6-inch x 1/8-inch-thick plates."

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    How exactly would you put a plate and a crossbar in that location and make that work with DJ's setup..........He seems to be on the rear floor, above the rocker panels.
    And how would you put a 6x6" plate on that location...I could see 3x6 plates on the rocker panels, crossmember against the floor...cutting through the trans tunnel........

    Those instructions suck. Your tech's suggestion makes sense but does not coincide with that posted rule. Is the goal to keep the cage from pinching together? What exactly is a rigid trans tunnel? How does that differ from a unibody RWD (except the obvious "fwd doesnt have an actual trans tunnel")? We have what looks like one. What makes a RWD one special?
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Think of it like a shallow upside down "U" that spans between main hoop plates and then the "D" bars go to that

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    So basically you are building a subframe inside the car...on your way to a full tube chassis!

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    That Torco stuff is neat but isn't cheap, if your tank holds 15 gallons, you will need 4 quarts to make 107 octane, so that's your tank of fuel plus $80.
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper1 View Post
    So basically you are building a subframe inside the car...on your way to a full tube chassis!
    Kind of a subframe, more just lateral support for side impact... I think

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman² View Post
    That Torco stuff is neat but isn't cheap, if your tank holds 15 gallons, you will need 4 quarts to make 107 octane, so that's your tank of fuel plus $80.
    Ouch

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Ouch
    Too bad E85 wasn't available everywhere, probably a much better alternative.
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman² View Post
    Too bad E85 wasn't available everywhere, probably a much better alternative.
    Several of the guys that run e85 at the track have a separate tank and tune so they can run pump fuel on the road. They usually carry all the e85 they will need for the week so they know the fuel will be consistent all week. The other direction would be to see what the e85 availability is in each city (there are websites that map the e85 stations) and carry any extra you need for the drive.

    My final thought on the subject is to do alcohol injection at higher boost...

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by c2xejk View Post
    Several of the guys that run e85 at the track have a separate tank and tune so they can run pump fuel on the road. They usually carry all the e85 they will need for the week so they know the fuel will be consistent all week. The other direction would be to see what the e85 availability is in each city (there are websites that map the e85 stations) and carry any extra you need for the drive.

    My final thought on the subject is to do alcohol injection at higher boost...
    True enough but if your area doesn't have it, hard to tune for it,

    My local speed shop swears by it, builds big HP Rotary's, Supra's etc.
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Not really a fan of E85... not to mention pump E85 is pretty inconsistent.

    If I'm going to pack gas, it will be 110

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Not really a fan of E85... not to mention pump E85 is pretty inconsistent.

    If I'm going to pack gas, it will be 110
    You mean E-eightysomething is inconsistent? :-)

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    LOL, not at all if 70-90 is OK?

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    How about meth/water injection?
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Not really a fan of E85... not to mention pump E85 is pretty inconsistent.

    If I'm going to pack gas, it will be 110
    What I think was alcohol content inconsistency (across several states) of pump gas was causing me fits at DW11. It seemed like every time I stopped for fuel I would have to adjust the tune of the engine... (One tank it would be rich the next it would be lean...) On my todo list is putting an alcohol sensor in so the MS2 can "automatically" adjust to the alcohol content of the fuel...

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Interesting... Alcohol sensor?

    This is really making me want to plump a second tank for race gas...

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Test specific gravity for adjustments?

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    More formally called fuel composition sensor or Flex Fuel sensor

    http://www.megamanual.com/flexfuel.htm

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Do you have a target ET in mind? Fastest you can go is 10.8 in daily driver.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by c2xejk View Post
    More formally called fuel composition sensor or Flex Fuel sensor

    http://www.megamanual.com/flexfuel.htm
    That's pretty cool...

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat View Post
    Do you have a target ET in mind? Fastest you can go is 10.8 in daily driver.
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Is Nate Pritchett going to be there to give the thumbs down if you go too fast?
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