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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Overnighted (well, not exactly, more like UPS Grounded) parts from Japan! (well, actually this place in Cali, LOL)

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    That looks pretty neat.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    BAD A!

    Measure the disc O.D. when you get a chance.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Will do...

    Found the problem from last fall.... The DDS-L5 axle did break the end off

    Good news so far.... bronze pads seemed to do well! and last round of TIG glue held the pinion shaft bearing on!

    taking pics... more to come later

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Good news except for the axle. That must take some work.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    I added up timeslips in one of the axle threads... over 200 passes on thsoe... can't say I'm upset.

    update... clutch was spinning, hope Pat was right about that being the shake... pics to come, gotta go find a TO bearing

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    First the fork pads... looking good to me

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Finally confirmed.. it was the axle that broke DSS L5... although it did have over 200 passes on it since installed in 2005... can't complain too much. I already have a dialog going with DSS, will update when I know more.

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    More TIG glue seems to be keeping the bearing race on this time!

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    Clutch was definitely slipping, how hot does sintered metal melt at?

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    New twin disk goes in tomorrow!

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    That is pure sexy!!
    Way more clutch than I would need but man that would be nice to have. Would to make the trans out of "transparent aluminum" so you could see it.
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Thats where I always break saginaws. Caught a few of them before they actually failed (stress cracks and starting to twist off). Most axle failures I had were not complete except the last two times I went racing. I used to take things apart every 5 days and would look at the axles and start being sad.
    The cracks on mine form at the edge of each spline, probably stress risers there.

    The dent marks though were caused by a diff that needed a LOT more shim. I blame much of this failure on that. Other failures I blame on my left foot. I had 3-4 axles with this kind of damage.

    I wonder what you do to help aleviate some of the pain the spline area must feel on a harsh engagement.

    Are you letting DSS know how aggressive you are going with your clutch?
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Yikes! I guess you have no issue with making power. lol!

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by black86glhs View Post
    That is pure sexy!!
    Way more clutch than I would need but man that would be nice to have. Would to make the trans out of "transparent aluminum" so you could see it.
    I was thinking that when I opened it up, its too pretty to hide and let get dirty, LOL! I would have loved to see inside teh trans when the old clutch was melting... bet there were sparks.. looking at the cracks in the p-plate, very glad it was steel and not cast and also glad to have a scatter shield now!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ondonti View Post
    Thats where I always break saginaws. Caught a few of them before they actually failed (stress cracks and starting to twist off). Most axle failures I had were not complete except the last two times I went racing. I used to take things apart every 5 days and would look at the axles and start being sad.
    The cracks on mine form at the edge of each spline, probably stress risers there.

    The dent marks though were caused by a diff that needed a LOT more shim. I blame much of this failure on that. Other failures I blame on my left foot. I had 3-4 axles with this kind of damage.

    I wonder what you do to help aleviate some of the pain the spline area must feel on a harsh engagement.

    Are you letting DSS know how aggressive you are going with your clutch?
    Yeah, thats the most common place I see them break too. The difference I noticed was a stocker breaks clean off with a flat surface and this one broke more jagged like the meat in the middle wa helping out more...

    The slicks/traction are what did it in, but yeah, teh clutch will add to that. I'll see what DSS will do.

    Quote Originally Posted by dodgeshadowchik View Post
    Yikes! I guess you have no issue with making power. lol!
    I'm hoping with better traction I can actually get into the mode of trying to make power... havn't actually tuned it well yet

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    damn dude nice clutch!!!

    id say you got every pennys worth from the old one...and then some lol!

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ondonti View Post
    Thats where I always break saginaws. Caught a few of them before they actually failed (stress cracks and starting to twist off). Most axle failures I had were not complete except the last two times I went racing. I used to take things apart every 5 days and would look at the axles and start being sad.
    The cracks on mine form at the edge of each spline, probably stress risers there.

    The dent marks though were caused by a diff that needed a LOT more shim. I blame much of this failure on that. Other failures I blame on my left foot. I had 3-4 axles with this kind of dam
    I wonder what you do to help aleviate some of the pain the spline area must feel on a harsh engagement.


    I have take a small ball grinding bit and rounded the end of each flute so there was less stress risers there and it has helped a bit but it not the prefect answer to big power.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    JT, have you weighed the two clutches, and clutch disks? I would be interested in the weight differences between the two. Although we could get a guy like yourself or DJ to see how the smaller dia would help with the disk slowing and the synchros breathing a sigh of relief.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    I'll weigh both assemblies today, but all i got is a cheezy bathroom scale so not too accurate... you can noticable feel there is a difference picking them each up tho. Which is nice for running out higher RPM, however actually the loss of flywheel mass momentum makes launching it more difficult and having to leave at hgher RPM... the shifting should get easier at the cost of added stress to the input shaft and everything else....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juggy View Post
    damn dude nice clutch!!!

    id say you got every pennys worth from the old one...and then some lol!
    Thanks, hope it works as good as it looks, LOL!

    Every penny.... dunno man, we're all *thrifty* so I was hoping it would hold up and last longer, LOL! But havta say it did well for a while...

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    My DSS axle broke the same way. Long or short axle?

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Looks great JT! Watching you guys and your cars scares me to think of the money I'll still need to spend some day.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo3Iroc View Post
    My DSS axle broke the same way. Long or short axle?
    Short one.. long one looks OK still but might send them both in to get looked at. I forget, which one did you break Kelly?

    Quote Originally Posted by turboshad View Post
    Looks great JT! Watching you guys and your cars scares me to think of the money I'll still need to spend some day.
    Thanks DJ!

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Short one.. long one looks OK still but might send them both in to get looked at. I forget, which one did you break Kelly?
    I was trying to remember this morning, I'm pretty sure it was the short one also. I remember having to pull the other axe to beat the stub out of the diff.

    It is probably in that thread where we discussed them breaking before.

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