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    Yeah, if they have the same harmonics they'll pump each other, and good idea about recording the sounds and comparing, then you don't have to worry about whether your ear is leading you astray.
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Tore into the trans tonight... Damage Report:

    - mainshaft bearing race broke TIG glue and walked about 1/2 way off
    - #3 brass synchro ring cracked all the way thru
    - 2, 3 an d 4 gears' dog teeth beat to hell
    - trans fluid was aluminum and brass powder filled
    - brass/bronze shift forks all looked OK

    So far:

    - dissasembled the gearset
    - cleaned everything up
    - pressed race back on
    - new TIG glue, heavier tacks
    - doubled up springs on slider guides
    - new (used) brass rings on 3 and 4
    - used (and still beat to F) 4th gear
    - gearset ready to go back in

    I also measured up the shifter cable bushings and will make a couple tomorrow to repair worn ones.

    Moral of thr story - when you shift and it goes into gear, but makes a "crunch" noise, something is FUBAR, take it apart, LOL!

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    3sx.com bought someones 140mph FWD 3000gt. it never ran faster then maybe 10.9 or 11.0. They put traction bars on it and it ran a 10.1 and did a 1.49 60' on what I believe were 26x10 slicks. Manual trans. Without the bar the car could only do HIGH 10's


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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    i wonder why that race keeps walking off.

    does it overhang past the bearing rollers? perhaps cutting it short and adding a clip might be a good idea? or maybe cutting it for a key? did you ever try the green loctite?

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    I've tried green loctite. Still walks.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo View Post
    i wonder why that race keeps walking off.

    does it overhang past the bearing rollers? perhaps cutting it short and adding a clip might be a good idea? or maybe cutting it for a key? did you ever try the green loctite?

    Brian
    Just throwing an idea out, but do you think the shaft is flexing a hair, making the end of the shaft/race not perfectly perpendicular to the bearing?

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Maybe that combined with the tires spinning thru 3 gears *trying to grip* then acting like an impact gun on the helical ring/pinion thorwing axial vibrations into the shaft, shaking the race off?

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    LOL, I have some pics, still on the camera tho...

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Maybe that combined with the tires spinning thru 3 gears *trying to grip* then acting like an impact gun on the helical ring/pinion thorwing axial vibrations into the shaft, shaking the race off?
    Or flex in the case...

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    I've had two races work off and fully expect this one to as well. Have you looked really really close at your TIG tacks? If you aren't pre-heating and then controlling the cool I would suspect they would have a fine crack in them with the high carbon content of the race and shaft. At least that has been my experience.

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    JT, I think you know the answer to fix this, hehehehe,
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by turboshad View Post
    I've had two races work off and fully expect this one to as well. Have you looked really really close at your TIG tacks? If you aren't pre-heating and then controlling the cool I would suspect they would have a fine crack in them with the high carbon content of the race and shaft. At least that has been my experience.
    My first tacks may have as I purposely tried to put a tiny tack on them and not get too much heat into the race. This time I tacked them and re-hit them with some more heat and filler rod...

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    JT, I think you know the answer to fix this, hehehehe,
    Put a heavier grenade in it, like SebringLX's "bulletproof" automatic? No thanks

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo View Post
    i wonder why that race keeps walking off.

    does it overhang past the bearing rollers? perhaps cutting it short and adding a clip might be a good idea? or maybe cutting it for a key? did you ever try the green loctite?

    Brian
    I cant speak for his but on the two I looked at the bearing was riding more towards the end of the shaft/race. Casting variations probably do have an effect though on where it rides.
    Not sure if you could put a shim behind the bearing between it and that plastic oil feeder so it would sit further out ?
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo View Post
    did you ever try the green loctite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turboshad View Post
    I've tried green loctite. Still walks.
    I used the green loctite before the TIG glue... it walked off in 2 passes

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Turn the engine 90* and put in the big boy transmission
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    Put a heavier grenade in it, like SebringLX's "bulletproof" automatic? No thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    I used the green loctite before the TIG glue... it walked off in 2 passes
    Burr the end over with a BFH
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    Quote Originally Posted by 135sohc View Post
    Turn the engine 90* and put in the big boy transmission
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    3 speed, durrr,
    Maybe if I lost an arm or leg or senses

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    Burr the end over with a BFH
    I've noticed lately you want to work on everything with a hammer, LOL are you a F*rd guy in disguise?

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    JT, you're running the 568, right?

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