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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by csxtra View Post
    Exactly...lengthen the injector pulse by another millisecond and adjust the NOS timer, and you'll run 9's.
    JT needs one of these.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    ^^^ LOL.... That would do it! Although it is smoking the tires off the line without it

    OK, I think I finally figured out something with the cut out issue... I'm 99% sure it is not fuel as I watched the fuel gauge every run yesterday

    New crank trigger seems tro be working well...
    It ONLY happens at the top end... so not high RPM related as such as it see's higehr RPM in 1,2 and 3....
    It gets worse as the day goes on, sometimes not at all on the 1st run, but very bad on the last runs in 3rd and 4th gear...
    I noticed some oil dripping from the cam sensor mount...
    It has only done it this year after switching to 5w30 from 10w40...

    Hmmm..... It is a non-magnetic sensor, MSD #2346

    So I asked the internet if oil is an issue, and found:

    http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/in...?topic=76964.0
    http://www.msdignition.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8586

    So, being a "batch" and "WS coil" setup, I'm going to put the cam sensor on a switch so it only see's it at startup... Got this tip from Kish as he did that on his SS Neon.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Did you double up the springs on the sliders? I did that last time ti was apart and think DJ had great idea!
    Yup

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Hmmm... cable/bushing issue?



    Videos from Sunday below... note smokin tire on at least one run... time for 26's


    Right off the trailer JT 10.71 (new PB for now)
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    JT Run #2 - New PB 10.62
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    JT Run #3 - 10.76 breaking up in 3 and 4
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    JT Run #4 - 11.49 breaking up in 3 so bad lifted
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Nic vids and congrats on the PB. to the camera person too

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 2.216VTurbo View Post
    Nic vids and congrats on the PB. to the camera person too
    +1 Nice Job JT!!

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    congrates on the new pb jt.
    peanut butter jelly time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Have you tried "treating" your slicks to make them stickier?
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    My last set of 24.5's got coated (for a week) with VHT... took them out an dthey were STICKY and SOFT and I had a couple good runs on them... until the left one popped in 4th gear... yep a mid 11 @ 120+ on 3 tires is kinda scary! and hard to stop! and luckily Bogarts are repairable but still not cheap

    Those were pretty old, so not sure the VHT had anything to do with it, but when I got the new set they had warnings all over them not to treat them. And with the new ones the car went 10's for the first time first trip out...

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Interesting. There are other ways to treat, maybe one day, I'll try it, lol.
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 2.216VTurbo View Post
    Nic vids and congrats on the PB. to the camera person too
    Quote Originally Posted by turbo2point2 View Post
    +1 Nice Job JT!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Clay View Post
    peanut butter jelly time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    LOL, thanks guys. Still hoping to make it out again this year!

    ---------- Post added at 12:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:21 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    Interesting. There are other ways to treat, maybe one day, I'll try it, lol.
    Pretty sure I posted pics (in this thread) after it happened and you could see the cords seperate on th einside of not only the one that went flat, but the other side too. I might try it again, but less aggressively, and after I forget that there are scrape makes on the oil pan from the track!

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Awesome work there, JT!
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Clay View Post
    peanut butter jelly time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I hate you so much right now. Just because you did that.


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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Anyone ever have a vibration (feels like tire shake) that immediately goes away as soon as you pedal the throttle?

    Wondering if something is working itself free in the trans again?

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Anyone ever have a vibration (feels like tire shake) that immediately goes away as soon as you pedal the throttle?

    Wondering if something is working itself free in the trans again?
    Inner CV joint?
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Notice any extra noise when that pinion bearing race was walking off the shaft ?

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    No noise from the intermediate shaft bearing walking off... but its making noise now... might be that bearing, or might be the input shaft as it was kinda sloppy too

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Have you ever changed the input bearings in all your messing with it ? Those are cheap and super common atleast..
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    OK, changes since the last time out...

    -new cam sensor
    -added a switch on the cam sensor so i can try to turn it off so see if that is the issue
    -removed "Daytona" logo mud flaps
    -massages fenders
    -rented SebringLX 26" MT ET Drags THANKS AGAIN!

    Runs from Sunday Import War / Test-n-Tune at Great Lakes Dragaway (Grove where SDAC-21 was)

    Run #1 - Right off the trailer, cold tires, light burnout, No 2-step, felt OK out of the hole then felt like it spun (or clutch spun) in 2, pedaled it then cutout and died in 3rd... BOOM! Thought I blew it up! Guess it tries to look for the cam sensor when it tries to re-fire... coasted off the track Checked it out and fired up on return road and drove to pits

    R/T: 1.906
    60': 1.773
    330': 5.087
    1/8ET: 7.824
    1/8mph: 95.67
    1000'ET: 9.959
    1/4ET: 11.995
    1/4mph: 101.64

    Run #2 - Cam switch on. Little better burnout, No 2-step, launch felt good, best 60' of the day! and seemed to hook in 2 and 3! till it broke up in 3rd and 4th

    R/T: .346
    60': 1.700
    330': 4.674 <== New best!
    1/8ET: 7.013 <== New best!
    1/8mph: 108.19
    1000'ET: 9.010
    1/4ET: 10.810
    1/4mph: 119.66

    Run #3 - Cam switch off. No 2-step, died on the launch, had to restart and drive the rest of the way, made a 3rd gear pull the whole track long... brokr up more.. confirmed need cam signal

    R/T: 1.612
    60': 2.149
    330': 10.304
    1/8ET: 14.798
    1/8mph: 58.13
    1000'ET: 17.883
    1/4ET: 20.147
    1/4mph: 95.02

    Run #4 - dialed crank trigger OUT a 1/2 turn... No 2-step, launch OK, granny 2, OK, granny shifted 3 and SHAKE, pedal, smooth, granny shifted 4 SHAKE, pedal, smooth... WTF!? At least NO break up!!

    R/T: .096
    60': 1.744
    330': 4.807
    1/8ET: 7.202
    1/8mph: 105.68
    1000'ET: 9.187
    1/4ET: 10.911
    1/4mph: 130.96

    Run #5 - Tried 2-step, launch OK, spun more, granny 2, OK, granny shifted 3 and SHAKE, pedal, smooth, granny shifted 4 SHAKE, pedal, smooth... AGAIN, WTF!? ...and it cut out in 4

    R/T: .131
    60': 1.756
    330': 4.746
    1/8ET: 7.103
    1/8mph: 106.85
    1000'ET: 9.089
    1/4ET: 10.806
    1/4mph: 130.49

    It made some gearlash transy type noises loading it on the trailer... Right now, not sure if the shake is the tires or in the trans? The last time out with the 24.5's it shook all the way thru 2 an dI just rode it out, this time, 3rd and 4th are a tad faster so didnt want to chance it if it wa a tire (or trans)...

    Huge THANK YOU to SebringLX for the rental slicks! Sorry I didnt get a new PB on them, might be able to get out again if I get time to go thru the trans...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 135sohc View Post
    Have you ever changed the input bearings in all your messing with it ? Those are cheap and super common atleast..
    Nope... same that has been in it since I got it

    I forget, does the trans have to come out to get the front one?

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

    Yup.. Press the race out of the case and readjust the endplay/preload. Timken set-4 and set-5
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