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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    I said the GT35R because you already have it. It would be an interesting comparison. The 60-1 to the GT35R then to the HE351.
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    If I fab up another header and downpipe... I'm not going up a little...

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    A few data plots from the last 2 trips out...

    11.37 - 30+psi - old 24.5" slicks.. limiter thru 1st.. went flat in 4th, you can see the shake

    11.22 - 30+psi - 23" slicks - notice how much sooner the shifts are

    11.05 - 26psi - new 24.5" slicks - getting used to traction, graaaaanny shifting to make sure I hit them unlike the run before this one midssing 3rd

    10.96 - 29psi - still easy on the 2-3 shift, but hit the 3-4 well

    10.84 - 29psi - holding boost between gears is fun
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    I vote suspension and 'glas front clip/diet...



    Oh wait, is that the full-race path that got voted down?
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    I bet we could mount headlight motors into that

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Yo DJ, you wanted to see my timing table? A tad conservative?

    On the 2 10's @ ~29psi it was on the top line, running ~ 10.5°
    Wow, you weren't kidding. That really is low. That is for 110 and 8.5:1 CR right? That's the first map I've seen where the timing decreases as the RPM increases. I bet you could find a bunch more power there and still be very safe. I can only imagine how high your EGTs are knowing where mine like to go

    The knock sensor/headphone thing I made for my car was key to me tuning my map and knowing for sure that it was safe. I think you would be pleasently suprised with the power just waiting for you.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Timing decreases more with boost than rpm...

    Yeah, 110 and ~8.5:1... I know its low.. but safe, and no knock sensor.

    Now that I have the boost under control, next trip out I'll adjust the top of the table up to 12° ... the 10° was a safetynety incase it ran over 30psi which it did, LOL!

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    at 30 psi I am running about 24 degrees c116

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rampage16V View Post
    at 30 psi I am running about 24 degrees c116
    Sounds promising JT!
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance View Post
    Timing decreases more with boost than rpm...

    Yeah, 110 and ~8.5:1... I know its low.. but safe, and no knock sensor.

    Now that I have the boost under control, next trip out I'll adjust the top of the table up to 12° ... the 10° was a safetynety incase it ran over 30psi which it did, LOL!
    That is so true after sdac 18 in detroit I bumped mine up to 24 from 18 went from 11.03@128 to 10.50@133 next time out

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    This spark timing talk is awesome,
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    I've been out of town for a few days and just read this...that is freaking awesome.

    And for the record, I vote all of the above!

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    the amout of power you get from adding a few more degrees is amazing.
    I see a 10.50 or better in your near future, on a good track that is.
    the next sdac is going to be incredible. they better get a darn good track this time.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Man, I change my vote to BUMP THE TIMING!
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Yeah, timing will definitely be the first step...

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    This spark timing talk is awesome,
    dont get any bad ideas. you still have too much timing.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo View Post
    dont get any bad ideas. you still have too much timing.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    dude, get out with some headphones and dial in your timing there's TONs of potential in the map.

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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Austrian Dodge View Post
    dude, get out with some headphones and dial in your timing there's TONs of potential in the map.
    Every time I do this the music is too loud to hear the pinging.
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    Re: BadAss SRT-Z Update!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by mario03SRT View Post
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    Thats RWHP. And it takes into consideration a loss of 15% for drivetrain loss. I don't know if that loss figure is correct or not. I used it as a general rule of thumb I'm sure someone here knows exactly.

    I use a HP calc at a Speed Shop here in town called Modular Depot. In their Resources section they have some calculators. http://www.modulardepot.com/?show=hpc

    Also neons.org (Hi!) has a calculator also.

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    Some good calculators here if anyones interested.

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