BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

[fleckster]

Maybe get a real tranny builder to build it,

The guy who built it runs self-built A413s in a 10.20@140mph Turbo Mopar. I think he knows what he is doing with them!

[turboshad]

JT, have you looked into alternative plastics for the pads? Alot has changed since the originally issued pieces. We are starting to substitute plastics for what would have been a metal bearing or wear part in the past with good success.

I was going though my book looking for a spec for a different grade from this manufacturer but this one seemed like it might be a good candidate for new, heavier duty shift pads.

http://www.quadrantepp.com/default.aspx?pageid=88

[turbovanman²]

The guy who built it runs self-built A413s in a 10.20@140mph Turbo Mopar. I think he knows what he is doing with them!

Did you see the fencing smilie and if they are only lasting 3 months on a stockish setup, something is wrong, wouldn't you say?

JT, have you looked into alternative plastics for the pads? Alot has changed since the originally issued pieces. We are starting to substitute plastics for what would have been a metal bearing or wear part in the past with good success.

I was going though my book looking for a spec for a different grade from this manufacturer but this one seemed like it might be a good candidate for new, heavier duty shift pads.

http://www.quadrantepp.com/default.aspx?pageid=88

Damn, that would make a good candidate I think, not to mention it might work in the auto's for the thrust bearings!

[Rampage16V]

Repairing and re-engineering keeps my interest and keeps me awake... banging gears keeps me awake...

Driving an automatic? *yawn* kinda boring... probably still fall asleep if I had some activity to do like if I put nitrous on it ... maybe I could stay awake if I brought a puzzle to assemble?

LMF(MOPAR)AO!!!!!!

Auto will give you consistancy to bracket race
but sucks on the street

[Rampage16V]

RedLine MTL changed formulas recently was 70W80 now 75W85.

syncros were designed for use of 5w-30

[BadAssPerformance]

syncros were designed for use of 5w-30

True, but factory fill was ATF... MTL works well actually, no issues in the many years I've been running it.

Thanks again for the parts, I'm gonna put a couple to use!

[turbovanman²]

LMF(MOPAR)AO!!!!!!

Auto will give you consistancy to bracket race
but sucks on the street

Nah, if I had to drive stick everyday on my commute, I'd commit suicide, lol.

True, but factory fill was ATF... MTL works well actually, no issues in the many years I've been running it.

Thanks again for the parts, I'm gonna put a couple to use!

Since when? our TM's got 5w30, Neon's and maybe the SRT4 got ATF.

[Rampage16V]

atf was 525, 555, 520....523 568 543 were 5w30

[135sohc]

Little side question here: everyone recommends redline if using synthetic but what about the amsoil 5w30 "manual trans fluid" ? napa just started selling it recently and with my 523 getting up there on miles... I'd like to last until I've got a suitable replacement inline.

[Rampage16V]

i would

[contraption22]

Little side question here: everyone recommends redline if using synthetic but what about the amsoil 5w30 "manual trans fluid" ? napa just started selling it recently and with my 523 getting up there on miles... I'd like to last until I've got a suitable replacement inline.

Can o' worms. But, I have heard some say that synthetic motor oil might be too slippery for the syncros.

[turbovanman²]

Can o' worms. But, I have heard some say that synthetic motor oil might be too slippery for the syncros.

But he's talking Amsoil manual trans fluid, different than synthetic engine oil,

atf was 525, 555, 520....523 568 543 were 5w30

Really? Not trying to start an argument but all my literature says 5w30 with ATF for auto's, of course,

[BadAssPerformance]

The Mopar 2.2L Performance Manual actually says the MTX uses ATF, 5W30 and 80-90 Gear oil in different places in the book.

[turbovanman²]

The Mopar 2.2L Performance Manual actually says the MTX uses ATF, 5W30 and 80-90 Gear oil in different places in the book.

DAMN!, lol, seems the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing. Also remember though, the auto's used to use gear oil in the diff until they undivorced the diff section so it got lubed with the ATF.

[MiniMopar]

atf was 525, 555, 520....523 568 543 were 5w30

Actually, the '87 FSM and up spec 5W-30. '86 FSM and down spec ATF. So the A520 and A555 both got 5W-30. The word was they used ATF because of winter shifting performance, but I haven't seen any proof of that.

[BadAssPerformance]

Interesting... each 87 car I've owned came with damn ATF

BTW I think the junk in the oil is OBX grey matter, LOL

[dodgeshadowchik]

Yeah cuz his are bullet proof

A DSM trans would probably be the last thing I would put in there

Nothing is "bulletproof". However, he does know and does build really good transmissions. There's been plently of them used on cars in the sub-10-sec range.

Besides, there's not much "dsm" left after it's been fixed.

Nice pics..

[BadAssPerformance]

JT, have you looked into alternative plastics for the pads? Alot has changed since the originally issued pieces. We are starting to substitute plastics for what would have been a metal bearing or wear part in the past with good success.

I was going though my book looking for a spec for a different grade from this manufacturer but this one seemed like it might be a good candidate for new, heavier duty shift pads.

http://www.quadrantepp.com/default.aspx?pageid=88

There are definitely cool plastics out there. I think in a race application the stiffness and hardness are key and you would have to get pretty exotic with plastics (like PEEK) to get the hardness I want.

Oh, and trying to get 1-2 pads made out of bronze for when I put it back together

[BadAssPerformance]

Nothing is "bulletproof". However, he does know and does build really good transmissions. There's been plently of them used on cars in the sub-10-sec range.

Besides, there's not much "dsm" left after it's been fixed.

Nice pics..

Yeah, too bad I cannot afford D$M parts, LOL

[MiniMopar]

Why didnt 2nd gear work? maybe shift fork movement? Offset wear on pads... noticed the fork moves ont eh rod pivoting about the pin. OR mayeb 2nd gear is just too F/U to work well anymore?

So when you turned the brass pads around they were pretty clean on the 2nd gear side. Now after two passes they are worn unevenly again? Sounds like a fork issue, though the excessive wear is probably from being hammered to death. The fork shouldn't be pivoting much, if at all. I'd have to look at mine to see. Is the hole that the rod passes through still round? Are the sleeves that guide the rods still in the case?

Pics...

Pics is a bit blurry, but the bronze pads look pretty good? Guess the real test is a missed shift.