BadAss SRT-Z - 2.4L / A568 - Update!!!

[depenbrok]

If you need extra 568 parts ill bring all my extra's for you to mopar nats. I'm going with an auto now so its all yours bud. Is that a dss stage 5? Looks different than mine

[lengel]

Was there coolant used when the prototypes were made?

[135sohc]

Still running just 2 pads on each fork ?

[black86glhs]

You know JT, you could still use the buggered shaft. Just figure out how to offset reverse so it uses the good half of the gear.
Are these pics from this weekend or the last time it broke a couple weeks ago?

[BadAssPerformance]

If you need extra 568 parts ill bring all my extra's for you to mopar nats. I'm going with an auto now so its all yours bud. Is that a dss stage 5? Looks different than mine

It's looking like I'm going to need 568 stuff for sure, that would be awesome!

Yes, that is a DSS L5 and I already sent an e-mail to them with pics of this one and the last one and how they broke completely differently...

Was there coolant used when the prototypes were made?

Good question, no coolant (other than air) used. Here is a pic as cut and also the raw bar

Still running just 2 pads on each fork ?

yep

[BadAssPerformance]

You know JT, you could still use the buggered shaft. Just figure out how to offset reverse so it uses the good half of the gear.
Are these pics from this weekend or the last time it broke a couple weeks ago?

LOL...

The reverse pics are from beaking reverse at SDAC-22

The axle pic is from Sunday

[black86glhs]

LOL...

The reverse pics are from beaking reverse at SDAC-22

The axle pic is from Sunday

Gotcha.....At first I thought it ate itself.....again. I almost cried. The axle isn't a big deal other than no power to ground.

[BadAssPerformance]

Yeah... still wondering why reverse is jumpy tho

[bakes]

Jt although different set ups my Tu purple clutch 6puck disc in a 3500# car will knock your filling out in Rev i have to raise the RPM a extra 1000-1500 just to stop it from grabbing/chattering. In forward gears it is a little grabby but it liveable( sucks in gridlock) ,dont get me wrong i love this clutch .

Also is there a sharp edge on the diff side gears spline to cause a stress riser???????

[135sohc]

In all your changing of parts have you ever checked to see how much end-play the input shaft has ?

[BadAssPerformance]

Jt although different set ups my Tu purple clutch 6puck disc in a 3500# car will knock your filling out in Rev i have to raise the RPM a extra 1000-1500 just to stop it from grabbing/chattering. In forward gears it is a little grabby but it liveable( sucks in gridlock) ,dont get me wrong i love this clutch .

Also is there a sharp edge on the diff side gears spline to cause a stress riser???????

The twin isnt grabby as much as noisy.. noisier this time around than with the old input shaft.

no sharp edges I can see. Was thinking diff bearing slop, but would need to pull it to get a measurement

In all your changing of parts have you ever checked to see how much end-play the input shaft has ?

Not an exact number. I can tell you that it is tighter with this one than the one that broke

[135sohc]

with the pinion shaft removed from the case you can put that expanding tool you bought and measure the turning torque of the diff to get an idea of condition.

[BadAssPerformance]

I forgot I had that, LOL, good idea!

I did put the spare pass side stub in each side and it didnt feel loose on bearing torque, but I'm wondering about the bits inside the OBX where the axles spline into vs. the bearing snouts. If there is looseness there, would there be binding maybe...

yep, over due for a new trans LOL

[bfarroo]

Jt although different set ups my Tu purple clutch 6puck disc in a 3500# car will knock your filling out in Rev i have to raise the RPM a extra 1000-1500 just to stop it from grabbing/chattering. In forward gears it is a little grabby but it liveable( sucks in gridlock) ,dont get me wrong i love this clutch .

Also is there a sharp edge on the diff side gears spline to cause a stress riser???????

My TU 6puck is only slightly grabbier than the stock setup was.

[bakes]

My TU 6puck is only slightly grabbier than the stock setup was.

are you running the over sized disc option and a purple plate???? sorry for the side track

[shackwrrr]

No funnel in the pinion bearing?

[135sohc]

Are both of those input shafts the same first gear ? the one you busted looks like a 92-93 1st gear, the replacement a 91 and older 1st gear.

[BadAssPerformance]

No funnel in the pinion bearing?

Pinion bearing took it out,.. then when I replaced teh bearing, I tried a 555 one and that one died too

Are both of those input shafts the same first gear ? the one you busted looks like a 92-93 1st gear, the replacement a 91 and older 1st gear.

pretty sure the same number of teeth on both

[lengel]

Good question, no coolant (other than air) used. Here is a pic as cut and also the raw bar

It looks like the 3-4 pads in that pic have more of a gold color to them. Do you think the ones that you pulled out of the trans could be discolored a little from being in the trans oil? I also just used air when I cut these. I have to say the raw stock that I got looks a little different then yours. It has more of a brownish color on the OD of the bar. I will take a pic of the raw bar at work next week. The first bar I got (1" diameter) from mc mastercarr, the other bars(1" & 1.25" diameter bars) I got from onlinemetals, but both had the exact same look/finish. Sorry maybe I should have put this in the shift fork pad thread.

Adam

[Shadow]

Jt although different set ups my Tu purple clutch 6puck disc in a 3500# car will knock your filling out in Rev i have to raise the RPM a extra 1000-1500 just to stop it from grabbing/chattering. In forward gears it is a little grabby but it liveable( sucks in gridlock) ,dont get me wrong i love this clutch .

Really find it strange, all the trouble you guys are having with your clutches? I'm running a 3 puck solid hub and reverse is smooth and golden as is all forward gears once you've adjusted your driving to the pedal/engagement.

Are you guys sure this isn't all driver error? (I've seen ppl that simply can't adjust for more aggresive clutches and drive them the same as an organic stocker, Brutal!)

Or are we seeing the difference between a properly broken in clutch vs take it out and beat on it with-out proper break-in?