Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: Which dipstick?

  1. #1
    turbo addict
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Lincoln, Nebraska
    Posts
    2,626

    Which dipstick?

    TIII, no balance shafts, 2.2 oil pan-the one with the sump in the center.

    My commonblock TII disptick is a different length than the TIII, and the tubes won't come close to interchanging. Anyone have any bright ideas?
    “If the people of the nation understood our banking and monetary system, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” -Henry Ford

  2. #2
    Buy my stuff!!!!!!!!!!! :O) Turbo Mopar Vendor turbovanman²'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Abbotsford, BC
    Posts
    44,167

    Re: Which dipstick?

    Stock oil pan?

    If so, any 2.2 or 2.5 with BS's will work. When I did my swap, I used my 2.5 dipstick and just used the thermostat mount bracket and bolted it to the intake.
    1989 FWD Turbo Caravan-2.5 TIII, GT35R, auto, a/c, cruise, pwr windows/locks, fully loaded with interior and ran with full exhaust. RETIRED FOR A FEW YEARS! 12.57@104 :O)
    1984 Chev Getaway van, 6.2 Diesel with a remote mounted turbo setup burning WMO-For sale.
    2003 GSW 2.0L TDI, auto, fully loaded, modified, 360K-wife's.
    2004 GSW TDI, 5 speed, fully loaded, modified.

    Aurora ignition wires for sale. Link to info

    Super60 roller cams or custom/billet cams. Link to info

  3. #3
    turbo addict
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Lincoln, Nebraska
    Posts
    2,626

    Re: Which dipstick?

    No Balance Shafts. The oil pan is off a base model Shadow with a 2.2; so it's not the stock one for an R/T or a 2.5.
    “If the people of the nation understood our banking and monetary system, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” -Henry Ford

  4. #4
    Supporting Member Turbo Mopar Contributor supercrackerbox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Firth, Nebraska
    Posts
    5,022

    Re: Which dipstick?

    Ideal oil level would still be the same I would think, I'd still use the TIII setup.

  5. #5
    turbo addict
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Mesa, AZ
    Posts
    7,351

    Re: Which dipstick?

    TII dip stick.

  6. #6
    Buy my stuff!!!!!!!!!!! :O) Turbo Mopar Vendor turbovanman²'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Abbotsford, BC
    Posts
    44,167

    Re: Which dipstick?

    Quote Originally Posted by 86Shelby View Post
    No Balance Shafts. The oil pan is off a base model Shadow with a 2.2; so it's not the stock one for an R/T or a 2.5.
    Did it have BS's? If so, just use the tube and dipstick off the donor car. Any BS equipped car/van will work if you use both items. If you new oil pan is the shallow unit, use a 89 and up Omni.

    Didn't 89 and up TII's have BS's?????? I can never remember this.
    1989 FWD Turbo Caravan-2.5 TIII, GT35R, auto, a/c, cruise, pwr windows/locks, fully loaded with interior and ran with full exhaust. RETIRED FOR A FEW YEARS! 12.57@104 :O)
    1984 Chev Getaway van, 6.2 Diesel with a remote mounted turbo setup burning WMO-For sale.
    2003 GSW 2.0L TDI, auto, fully loaded, modified, 360K-wife's.
    2004 GSW TDI, 5 speed, fully loaded, modified.

    Aurora ignition wires for sale. Link to info

    Super60 roller cams or custom/billet cams. Link to info

  7. #7
    two point two much fun Turbo Mopar Staff Turbodave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Northern IL
    Posts
    4,832

    Re: Which dipstick?

    Ray I can't think of a stock dipstick that would work for that situation.

    Here's a thought - install the TIII tube (because it clears the intake). Then fill the engine with 3.5 quarts, put the TIII dipstick in and see where it's at (should be around the "add 1qt" mark). If the stock increments aren't correct use a scribe and put a line on the backside of the dipstick at the add mark you just established. Then add another quart to the engine and mark your full line on the dipstick. This is without starting the engine of course and the volumes listed above are w/o fiilter. You could also go 3.25 and 4.25 to reduce the risk of overfilling it, but that's up to you.
    Dave Tekampe
    Director SDAC National
    VP SDAC-Chicago


    85 GLH-Turbo (DC intercooled)
    86 GLHS #107
    87 GLHS #148
    87 CSX #161, #608, #674
    88 CSX-T #529, #541
    89 Shadow Competition Package and lots more...

  8. #8
    two point two much fun Turbo Mopar Staff Turbodave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Northern IL
    Posts
    4,832

    Re: Which dipstick?

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    Did it have BS's? If so, just use the tube and dipstick off the donor car. Any BS equipped car/van will work if you use both items. If you new oil pan is the shallow unit, use a 89 and up Omni.

    Didn't 89 and up TII's have BS's?????? I can never remember this.
    Common block 2.2 TBI = no balance shafts
    89 Common block 2.2 TII = no blance shafts
    90-93 Common block 2.2 TIV and TIII = balance shafts

    Ray is running no BS and a 2.2 TBI car pan and pickup, that's all good, less risk of oil starvation this way then a BS pan and pickup without any baffles. His issue is that the dipstick tube from the 8V engine the pan came from won't clear his 16V head/intake.
    Dave Tekampe
    Director SDAC National
    VP SDAC-Chicago


    85 GLH-Turbo (DC intercooled)
    86 GLHS #107
    87 GLHS #148
    87 CSX #161, #608, #674
    88 CSX-T #529, #541
    89 Shadow Competition Package and lots more...

  9. #9
    turbo addict
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Lincoln, Nebraska
    Posts
    2,626

    Re: Which dipstick?

    That's a pretty good idea, Dave. I'm close enough to getting it primed I'll make my own marks once it's full of oil and primed.

    I was tired of seeing the oil pressure gauge go low when on the interstate on ramps with the Omni, and didn't want to risk the same thing happening with the R/T. Omni is a 2.5 without balance shafts, no baffled pan.
    “If the people of the nation understood our banking and monetary system, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” -Henry Ford

  10. #10
    Buy my stuff!!!!!!!!!!! :O) Turbo Mopar Vendor turbovanman²'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Abbotsford, BC
    Posts
    44,167

    Re: Which dipstick?

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbodave View Post
    Common block 2.2 TBI = no balance shafts
    89 Common block 2.2 TII = no blance shafts
    90-93 Common block 2.2 TIV and TIII = balance shafts

    Ray is running no BS and a 2.2 TBI car pan and pickup, that's all good, less risk of oil starvation this way then a BS pan and pickup without any baffles. His issue is that the dipstick tube from the 8V engine the pan came from won't clear his 16V head/intake.

    Gotcha.

    The dipstick will, see my earlier post,
    1989 FWD Turbo Caravan-2.5 TIII, GT35R, auto, a/c, cruise, pwr windows/locks, fully loaded with interior and ran with full exhaust. RETIRED FOR A FEW YEARS! 12.57@104 :O)
    1984 Chev Getaway van, 6.2 Diesel with a remote mounted turbo setup burning WMO-For sale.
    2003 GSW 2.0L TDI, auto, fully loaded, modified, 360K-wife's.
    2004 GSW TDI, 5 speed, fully loaded, modified.

    Aurora ignition wires for sale. Link to info

    Super60 roller cams or custom/billet cams. Link to info

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •