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    Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    Guys and Gals,

    I have been looking at the Dizzy Hosting info and...

    I started playing around with a CAD program and decided to draw up the distributor conversion parts to learnt he tool. I think they turned out good enough to where I can make them.

    I can have them in a month from the time they are ordered.

    I know lots of people have made these but everyone wants a ton of money for them and also can't seem to fill their orders.

    Let me know if you are interested in them and I can get an idea on the pricing. The first 10 are expensive and it gets much cheaper after that so the number of people that order determine the price. I think $200 or so should be easy to pull off. The more orders the cheaper they get.


    Here are some screenshots of my drawings.

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    I can get more fancy with this but this seems sufficient and I don't want to be accused of stealing anyone's design.

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    Let me know what you think.

    -Rich

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    Re: Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    I'd be up for it, it's cheaper than the one I saw on that auction site...

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    Re: Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    Quote Originally Posted by Birddog View Post
    I'd be up for it, it's cheaper than the one I saw on that auction site...
    Yea well If I have 10-15 orders it gets cheaper. There is a fixed cost in their price structure that drives the price high in small quantities...

    The big advantage I have is that I did the CAD work myself so there aren't any costs involved in that other than some lost sleep.

    -Rich

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    Re: Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    Looks good Rich, nicely done.
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    Re: Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    Quote Originally Posted by turbovanman View Post
    Looks good Rich, nicely done.
    Thanks hopefully we can get a batch made for around half the cost of the original offering with no supply issues. I want to talk to a local waterjet guy to see if I can get the cost down on the adapter plate to bring the price down some more.

    -Rich

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    Re: Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    i'd like to jump in and get one too if not to late..
    looking high any low for one

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    Re: Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    I can make them but there is a guy on turbododge that is making an electronic adapter that will probably be better.

    It can run either off from the stock HEP, the 1st gen 2.0/2.4 crank sender or the NGC crank sender and fire the Neon coilpack (wasted spark setup).

    I think he even has plans to do coil on plug if anyone wants to go that far with it.

    That means we will no longer need the adapter.

    If it doesn't work out then I will make a batch but right now it seems like that is a better option.

    -Rich

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    Re: Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    Put me down for one. I got two of Your? obx spacers?

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    Re: Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    Rich i already told you but put me down for one, looks great!

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    Re: Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    Quote Originally Posted by looneytuner View Post
    Put me down for one. I got two of Your? obx spacers?
    No you probly got two of my obx spacers.

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    Re: Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    Quote Originally Posted by looneytuner View Post
    Put me down for one. I got two of Your? obx spacers?
    I am only doing MSD wires, modified distributor caps, and OBX washers. The spacers are another guy.

    -Rich

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    Re: Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    I talked to the machinist today. He has been pretty busy with a big order from Roush Racing so his time was limited.

    He gave me some suggestions on how to make the cam adapter easier to manufacture (cheaper) so I will redraw it this weekend and get it to him next week.

    Hopefully it would be about a week turnaround to have them in hand from the final design. The mounting plate should also fit into that timeframe.

    Thanks and sorry for the delays.

    -Rich

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    Re: Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    Here are some updated pictures.

    This adapter plate is a much nicer and should work out quite nicely.

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    I decided that I can make it cheaper with the waterjet than the full CNCed piece. The only difference is that it will be cut fully through and the tab hole will be threaded and I will use a setscrew instead of it being one piece.

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    -Rich

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    Re: Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    Wow Rich! Pretty cool! You should see if there is a way to add some tabs or something to the mount, so people can mount their coil at that location. Or you could create a bracket as part of the kit for the coil to mount at the 2.4L's old location.
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    Re: Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    Wow Rich! Pretty cool! You should see if there is a way to add some tabs or something to the mount, so people can mount their coil at that location. Or you could create a bracket as part of the kit for the coil to mount at the 2.4L's old location.
    In order to mount a coil on the engine it really should be an epoxy coil. Canister mounted coils could be mounted somewhere on the drivers side to shorten up the coil wire.

    The t-stat stile late epoxy coild could be placed on the engine OR one of these would probably work well:

    http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

    Or even the MSD unit:

    http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

    I was planning on getting one of the summit units and either drilling it to fit the DOHC mounting holes or making a 1/4" plate that adapts it to that location. It is really just a plate with holes that match both coils I can make it but unless everyone agrees on what coil they want to run it wouldn't be worthwhile.

    You are right that the passenger fender isn't the best spot for a coil with this setup.

    Of course I can make custom wires to put the coil wherever someone wants it. I will look to see if there is a nice place to stick the t-stat style coil with this setup so we can have a very short coil wire. I am not sure the distrib bracket is the best place for the coil actually. The dist has to be able to turn and there are some cooling hoses in that general area. I will look at it though.


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    Re: Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    I've pondered running a T3 SBEC and getting a harness made-up but I like the idea of a distributor adapter much better in terms of tuning.
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    Re: Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    By the way, I am VERY interested in one. I believe Bucar will be interested in one or two also.
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    Re: Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    By the way, I am VERY interested in one. I believe Bucar will be interested in one or two also.
    Frank,

    I will be sure to get on my machinist tomorrow to make it happen. I didn't get a chance to talk to him today.

    Are you also interested in a coil mount bracket?

    I can make one that attaches the t-stat style coil if people are satisfied with that coil. I think it probably makes the most sense to make it a seperate bracket... If the bracket attached to the EGR bolts and doubled as a blockoff plate would that add too much heat to the coil? It doesn't seem like it would really get much hotter than somewhere else on the head but I haven't thought it through. That would give a stable mounting point and allow for short coil wires. My vision for this is something made from 1/8-1/4" stainless with an L bend in it.

    I am not really interested in supporting aftermarket coils because everyone will have their favorite and want a different mount. I think the ones I linked to from summit could be mounted with a couple of aluminum strips in the stock neon location and still look really good.

    After I finalize things this also gives a good lead in to the next step of a modified distributor cap and custom wires with the 90degree distributor terminals/boots and Neon plug boots.

    -Rich

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    Re: Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    my suggestion... with this being a kit, i think you should have the trigger wheel adapter as i thought that when the dist was mounted on the end of the cam it was spinning backwards and then needed some mods to make it work. didnt david borher (sp?) put some distributor trigger wheel mod docs here on the site somewhere with drawings to make the piece?

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    Re: Any Interest in a Distributor Adapter Group buy

    I think a nice adapter to the stock neon location would work well for the SUM-850500. You could probably really do well as a full up kit to include the wires, etc. I am excited about this because now I don't feel the need to go MS on my 2.4L project with a good dizzy setup.
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