Dodge sold a version of the Dakota in Brazil that had a 4cyl diesel in it. http://www.dieselnet.com/news/1997/11ddc.php
Dodge sold a version of the Dakota in Brazil that had a 4cyl diesel in it. http://www.dieselnet.com/news/1997/11ddc.php
Here's a link I found regarding the engine:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ngines#425_OHV
And one more...
http://www.vmmotori.it/en/01/00/01/dettaglio.jsp?id=10
keep in mind that the 2.2 and common block 2.5 were in the Dakota from '87-'95.
Simon was so close in explaining why a diesel conversion from a gas engine is basicly, a do-over. He's correct in the air is ingested, compressed, and that heat is what ignites the fuel when it's injected.
What was missed is where the combustion chamber is on a diesel. At least every deisel I've ever worked on. (cummins, mercedes, and that POS liberty) The combustion chamber is in the piston, not the head. The head is virtually flat with only the injector tip protruding out. This combustion chamber in the piston is also what helps get the comprssion ratio so high (17:1 and up).
This is also why the injection timing is so important, the fuel plume must hit a moving target (piston) at just the right time or it's just noise and black soot everywhere. If the temperature isn't at it's highest at the point of injection, then not all the fuel is ignited and performance and emissions go down and up respectively.
In closing, to convert a 2.2l to a diesel is pretty much a do-over project.
But I do like the vw diesel in an old k based car for wicked MPG. Maybe add a little propane to help the power output......
No, but a good one does.Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo
What was missed is where the combustion chamber is on a diesel. At least every deisel I've ever worked on. (cummins, mercedes, and that POS liberty) The combustion chamber is in the piston, not the head. The head is virtually flat with only the injector tip protruding out. This combustion chamber in the piston is also what helps get the comprssion ratio so high (17:1 and up).
This is also why the injection timing is so important, the fuel plume must hit a moving target (piston) at just the right time or it's just noise and black soot everywhere. If the temperature isn't at it's highest at the point of injection, then not all the fuel is ignited and performance and emissions go down and up respectively.
In closing, to convert a 2.2l to a diesel is pretty much a do-over project.
WELL PUT.
Since the head needs to be basically flat it makes me wonder if our casting would even work by the time you mill it that much. Then you have to have a mammoth piston made with a chamber cut out of the middle of it.
In theory it COULD be done, but with all the research and development you'd need to do to figure out chamber shape / size and get it that way then figuring out what injector pump you can fabricate to work, and if you can get the injector in the right spot so the fuel will shoot into exactly the right spot to make the thing even fire. The spark plug hole probably won't work, and if it doesn't then for all you know the valves might be in the way of where the injector would need to go.
People said it before, I'll repeat it: if you want a diesel engine in one of our cars, you'd be much better off finding a mass manufactured diesel engine and fabbing it into your engine bay and mating it to your transmission.
AMEN! Hence while the diesel thats going in my RC charger will be out of a diesel truck. I suppose a converted slant 6 would be cool though.
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took a look at a TDI today. injector pump is perfect and the injectors are at just about the same location as our sparkplugs with the glow plug right beside.
naysayers. go away. i want ideas and pics of heads and pistons, not your negative opinions.
Brian
Speaking of diesel engines, a few years ago a couple buddies of mine were working on building an old flathead 6 cylinder Ford engine that was gonna be turbocharged, fuel injected, AND have an injection pump. The EFI was gonna be GM bits & pieces, and the diesel pump was gonna be from a 6 cylinder BMW engine. The plan was to be able to run it on gas/diesel/or a mix of both & be able to switch on the fly.
You can read about some of it here.. http://www.bacomatic.org/~dw/engine/BobF6/BobF6.htm
Converting K engine to diesel easy methods
#1
Make wax model of VW tdi block and head, grate 2.2 block and head to fine powder, mix, put pile on top of each wax model in sandbox, light powder.
#2
Stack 10 headgaskets, wrap fuel line around downpipe, keep the spark plugs.
#3
Put a big supercharger on it, kludge injectors into the plug holes, forget the glowplugs, start with starting fluid.
Well I was going to chime in on some questions but it looks like most are answered.
VW Diesels should be simple to bolt in. The ones from the A1 and A2 chassis run on very few electronics, if any.
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Anyone research this anymore? I have been thinking about this a bit lately as well. Though I was looking at bringing in an UK 2.5L Turbo Diesel engine...
Diesel still costs too much more than gas to make it worth it... right now.
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Make biodiesel.
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Depends were you are. Around here it was pretty close to the same price a regular. The UK 2.5L Turbo Diesel was rated at 44MPG in a Voyager MiniVan. With reports of 65mpg according to some magazine, according to info on Allpar. That kind of mileage makes it tempting...
Yeah notice the pattern for the last 2-3 years, from noticeably cheaper to noticeably more $$$, and its less refined then gasoline so cheaper to make. But all the trucks use it for shipping things so its past on to the consumer anyway. They just do that instead of jacking the gas prices up because people freak out, this way its more hidden.
So is kerosene. Supply and demand...
greed outperforms supply and demand by miles.......
I swear I was hearing that the Government gets 16-18 cents per gallon and Exxon only make 8-10 cents a gallon, then the state tax on top. Exxon Mobil had record profits, so I'm sure the Government made good amounts also since they dont even produce it.
Yeah it's called road tax, and it's the money they use to fix the roads and build new bridges that cost billions of dollars.
Diesel has 4 times as much road tax because truckers destroy roads more than cars. Stinks for diesel car owners.
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