Turbocharging a 95 Neon-Options please!

[turbovanman²]

Ok, I have another customer that wants me to turbocharge his 95 Neon. I did a 2.4 SRT swap into one before and never again sooooooooo what are my options?
I will be going forged pistons and retaining his stock 2.0L DOHC head, so is there a 2.4 block that will bolt right in? IE Stratus etc pre 99 or do I change out the rods and crank and put 2.4 stuff in?

There will be no porting so what turbo to run? Just a daily driver, no drag racing.

What are my options for engine management? I could have MicroTech installed but can I trick the stock stuff?

Thanks guys.

[TurboRon25]

I think Hahn just bolted a turbo to a stock motor with a RRR and it was good for like 6-8 psi.
Stg II was intercooled stage I and like 10-12 psi. Stg III was pistons and around 15 psi.

2.4s bolt in with a pass side adapter that you can get off the Neon boards. Wiring changes are a couple simple swaps. (cam sensor and injectors) You need to start with a DOHC harness.

SRT4 rods and pistons are the way to go if you are adding real boost to the 2.4, Super cheap and reliable.

DailyDriver: bolt on a stock SRT4 turbofold. Easy, reliable.

They do alright on stock 2.0 computers. Neon Performance computers are a no-no with boost.

..or he can just buy my rust free 98 2.4 turbo R/T

Ron

[spoolinhard]

www.neons.org try the neon guru's

[shadow88]

You know you'd ask this if anyone else were asking. Sooooo.... What's the power level and purpose of this build?

[turbovanman²]

You know you'd ask this if anyone else were asking. Sooooo.... What's the power level and purpose of this build?

Just a stock type build, no more than 10 psi, just for some more added boost, I sorta mentioned that in the first post,

I think Hahn just bolted a turbo to a stock motor with a RRR and it was good for like 6-8 psi.
Stg II was intercooled stage I and like 10-12 psi. Stg III was pistons and around 15 psi.

It will be getting rebuilt and an IC.

2.4s bolt in with a pass side adapter that you can get off the Neon boards. Wiring changes are a couple simple swaps. (cam sensor and injectors) You need to start with a DOHC harness.

Did that before, not a fan of it plus the added height. The car is already DOHC.

SRT4 rods and pistons are the way to go if you are adding real boost to the 2.4, Super cheap and reliable.

Will they go in a 2.0L with a crank swap?

DailyDriver: bolt on a stock SRT4 turbofold. Easy, reliable.

I know about that but don't like the port mismatch and the missing stud you grind off to make it fit a pre 2000 head.

They do alright on stock 2.0 computers. Neon Performance computers are a no-no with boost.

Good to know.

..or he can just buy my rust free 98 2.4 turbo R/T

Ron

Hahhaa, nice try.

I'll surf around Neons.org.

[BadAssPerformance]

I think Hahn just bolted a turbo to a stock motor with a RRR and it was good for like 6-8 psi.
Stg II was intercooled stage I and like 10-12 psi. Stg III was pistons and around 15 psi.

2.4s bolt in with a pass side adapter that you can get off the Neon boards. Wiring changes are a couple simple swaps. (cam sensor and injectors) You need to start with a DOHC harness.

SRT4 rods and pistons are the way to go if you are adding real boost to the 2.4, Super cheap and reliable.

DailyDriver: bolt on a stock SRT4 turbofold. Easy, reliable.

They do alright on stock 2.0 computers. Neon Performance computers are a no-no with boost.

..or he can just buy my rust free 98 2.4 turbo R/T

Ron

Also to add all of Hahns kits used Mitsu turbos for whatever reason.

+1 to the clean '98 Ron has for sale! pics of the '95?

[turbovanman²]

Also to add all of Hahns kits used Mitsu turbos for whatever reason.

+1 to the clean '98 Ron has for sale! pics of the '95?

He likes his car.

I don't have any pics, just a normal Neon, nothing special but its paid for, lol!

[BadAssPerformance]

LOL... I want Ron's '98 but a '95 would be easier cuz no e-check for pre OBD2 here

[Aries_Turbo]

you could run the 95 on a smec/sbec with a dist adapter to the cam and even utilize the factory neon knock sensor with some reprogramming to the threshold curve. Chem2 has scaling options for 2.0L. keep the stock ecu in there for the gauges and stuff. add the SMEC/SBEC like a standalone.

id do rods and pistons. no you cant use a 2.4L crank or the SRT stuff in the 2.0L motor. the 2.0L has a wider large end of the rod.

Brian

[inmyshadow]

If this is a daily driver, then a DOHC 2.0 with HRC turbo kit should be good. It will make around 210whp.

The 2.4 does swap in. All the SRT4 internals fit the 1st gen 2.4 block. You can use a SOHC 2.0 engine harness without much problems. I only had to change the cam position sensor's connector and lengthen CTS and Oil pressure when I did my swap.

For engine management on a 2.4 turbo setup. Alot of neon owners use megasquirt with AEM's F/IC gaining in popularity.

Since the PT crusier supercharger kit deal fell through on me. I'll probably turbocharge my 2.4 with a SRT4 turbofold and run AEM's F/IC.

later

I think Hahn just bolted a turbo to a stock motor with a RRR and it was good for like 6-8 psi.
Stg II was intercooled stage I and like 10-12 psi. Stg III was pistons and around 15 psi.

2.4s bolt in with a pass side adapter that you can get off the Neon boards. Wiring changes are a couple simple swaps. (cam sensor and injectors) You need to start with a DOHC harness.

SRT4 rods and pistons are the way to go if you are adding real boost to the 2.4, Super cheap and reliable.

DailyDriver: bolt on a stock SRT4 turbofold. Easy, reliable.

They do alright on stock 2.0 computers. Neon Performance computers are a no-no with boost.

..or he can just buy my rust free 98 2.4 turbo R/T

Ron

[Vigo]

darn, if only this were a SOHC thread, it'd be twice as useful to me!

210whp in a neon is pretty sweet considering the weight. Id be happy.

[turbovanman²]

If this is a daily driver, then a DOHC 2.0 with HRC turbo kit should be good. It will make around 210whp.

The 2.4 does swap in. All the SRT4 internals fit the 1st gen 2.4 block. You can use a SOHC 2.0 engine harness without much problems. I only had to change the cam position sensor's connector and lengthen CTS and Oil pressure when I did my swap.

For engine management on a 2.4 turbo setup. Alot of neon owners use megasquirt with AEM's F/IC gaining in popularity.

Since the PT crusier supercharger kit deal fell through on me. I'll probably turbocharge my 2.4 with a SRT4 turbofold and run AEM's F/IC.

later

Does the 2.4 sit higher, I know the SRT motor did?

I'll check into the HRC kit.

[contraption22]

Does the 2.4 sit higher, I know the SRT motor did?

I'll check into the HRC kit.

It has to, unless you want to lower the trans. 2.4 has a taller deck height.

[inmyshadow]

Yes, I had to remove the hood padding to clear the dohc 2.4 valve cover. But you need to use the bulge hood to clear either dohc motor.

Does the 2.4 sit higher, I know the SRT motor did?

I'll check into the HRC kit.

[mario03SRT]

Vanman,

I helped a local do his 2.0.

- 255 pump
- SRT-4 turbofold assy. WGA/BOV/Turbo
- map clamp on a stock Neon 2.0 ecu
- aeromotive adj fuel reg
- stock 2003 SRT injectors (early ones pre 2004 which were larger) or
maybe some accell 24 lb or ford racing 24 lbs.
- fmic
- mbc
- stock SRT-4 DP

9 psi max as the rods will start to fuss over this much power. Also the valves will give whine also. The car ran a 13 flat on slicks. Made around 190 hp at the wheels. With a SRT head with a mild PnP and 8.5 compression pistons, crower rods, SRT 4 Clutch (slightly turned), 3 in exhaust, STG 1 injectors AND megasquirt the car runs 11.70s and is putting down 330 hp at the wheels with 20 psi spike holding 17 to 7k.

FYI,
Marion

If I remember anything else I'll add it.

[turbovanman²]

Yes, I had to remove the hood padding to clear the dohc 2.4 valve cover. But you need to use the bulge hood to clear either dohc motor.

IT HAS THE DOHC MOTOR,

Vanman,

I helped a local do his 2.0.

- 255 pump
- SRT-4 turbofold assy. WGA/BOV/Turbo
- map clamp on a stock Neon 2.0 ecu
- aeromotive adj fuel reg
- stock 2003 SRT injectors (early ones pre 2004 which were larger) or
maybe some accell 24 lb or ford racing 24 lbs.
- fmic
- mbc
- stock SRT-4 DP

9 psi max as the rods will start to fuss over this much power. Also the valves will give whine also. The car ran a 13 flat on slicks. Made around 190 hp at the wheels. With a SRT head with a mild PnP and 8.5 compression pistons, crower rods, SRT 4 Clutch (slightly turned), 3 in exhaust, STG 1 injectors AND megasquirt the car runs 11.70s and is putting down 330 hp at the wheels with 20 psi spike holding 17 to 7k.

FYI,
Marion

If I remember anything else I'll add it.

Thanks, I like that one, nice and simple and no standalone,

[Aries_Turbo]

Thanks, I like that one, nice and simple and no standalone,

in this day and age i find fuel management via regulators and such unacceptable. how many wires does it take to run an engine on a SMEC? you have a burner. you have chips right? dont cobble, do a good job for the kid. 100$ for the dist adapter, you probably have a SMEC and the connectors laying around. solder a handful of wires and you have a tunable EFI setup with room for the future for less than RRR's and stuff like that. plus you would learn skills that would help you tune your van as well. plus the safety of factory turbo knock detection.

Brian

[turbovanman²]

in this day and age i find fuel management via regulators and such unacceptable. how many wires does it take to run an engine on a SMEC? you have a burner. you have chips right? dont cobble, do a good job for the kid. 100$ for the dist adapter, you probably have a SMEC and the connectors laying around. solder a handful of wires and you have a tunable EFI setup with room for the future for less than RRR's and stuff like that. plus you would learn skills that would help you tune your van as well. plus the safety of factory turbo knock detection.

Brian

Damn you, why do you have to make sense,

[Aries_Turbo]

hehe, im terrible arent i

do you have a scanner simon? if you go the smec route, i can give you a hand retuning the knock threshold table to match the neon. itll take less than an hour to do.

Brian

[turbovanman²]

hehe, im terrible arent i

do you have a scanner simon? if you go the smec route, i can give you a hand retuning the knock threshold table to match the neon. itll take less than an hour to do.

Brian

I have an Ostrich, burner to which I still haven't picked up yet and have a Snap On and OTC scanner.

This won't happen for at least 6 months but he is starting to save money now,