Stage 5 cals

[John B]

Are the cals offered today pretty much the same as past cals or have they evolved or changed? Are they still the Emiro cals?

[glhs727]

Are the cals offered today pretty much the same as past cals or have they evolved or changed? Are they still the Emiro cals?

We are constantly evolving OUR cals.

[gvare001]

Cindy, do you carry the stage 5, 88/89 SMEC's in stock, I'll like to order one. Also would you take a TBI SMEC for a core, or does it have to be a turbo SMEC. Thanks.

[glhs727]

We make each one to order. Abd currently are running about 3 weeks out.
You MUST send a turbo core or pay the core charge. . the TBI will not work,
Thanks,
Cindy

[devlish]

I just got my 87 T2 Stage 5 Cal yesterday... and WOW !!!! its right on the nuts!! the very first startup was a bit rough, but every startup afterwards was just fine! she rips like crazy all the way past redline in my little Omni GLH T2!! i'm very impressed, thanks again Cindy!

on a side note, my oil leak almost disapeared even after installing that S5... maybe you can advertise that on your webpage too!

still another satisfied FWD customer!
~Kurt Check
87 GLHT2 (stock...ish )
85 GLHT (stock)

[vxvxAndrewxvxv]

I just got my 87 T2 Stage 5 Cal yesterday... and WOW !!!! its right on the nuts!! the very first startup was a bit rough, but every startup afterwards was just fine! she rips like crazy all the way past redline in my little Omni GLH T2!! i'm very impressed, thanks again Cindy!

on a side note, my oil leak almost disapeared even after installing that S5... maybe you can advertise that on your webpage too!

still another satisfied FWD customer!
~Kurt Check
87 GLHT2 (stock...ish )
85 GLHT (stock)

may i ask what cal you got, and what setup you have?

[devlish]

2.2 liter, T2 electronics, +40's, Walbro 255, Areo AFPR, FMIC w/ 2.5" pipes, larger Throttle Body, 2.5" turboback exhaust, full suspension & SLH2 brakes.

i got the FWD S5 cal. i later found out it was only running 15psi, not the 18psi... but it still ripped like crazy. i bumped it myself to 18psi and it was fun as hell. up until recently when some other motor issues came about. still like the cal though.

[vxvxAndrewxvxv]

did your motor problems surface from running too much boost? I can't decide what I should go with!!!

What motor problems did you run into?

[Gearhead24-7]

You must have lucked out. I've been trying to get a working S5 for almost a year and a half now. After buying a it from fellow TD'r, I've sent it back 3 times and still don't have one that works. I've made countless phone calls to Cindy in the past 18 months, and all I have are excuses, promises, and a disfunctional calibration.

[devlish]

not sure what caused the motor problems... could have been the boost, could have been the previous 120k miles. hard to tell. cracked rings or piston is the effect though.

looking to buy a motor to drive the car for the rest of the year, and build this one over the winter. going to go forged pistons, t2 rods, etc.

and yes, i have pretty good luck with FWD.

[JamesL]

You must have lucked out.

Hi Chris, I wouldn't exactly call it luck. We've sold many of these to many satisfied customers. You've probably got some other issue or setup that is difficult to tune for without being on a dyno. You say you bought it from someone else and we've sent you three replacements?

[overlordsshadow]

What ignition timing has been run safely with these stage 5 cals? I've melted the engine down twice and still have no idea why after running only 18 psi the second time with walbro, +40%'s, intercooler, and alky/water. Was running around 14 for timing.

Did I mention I have a stage 5 88/89 2.5 cal for sale?

[JamesL]

What ignition timing has been run safely with these stage 5 cals? I've melted the engine down twice and still have no idea why after running only 18 psi the second time with walbro, +40%'s, intercooler, and alky/water. Was running around 14 for timing.

Did I mention I have a stage 5 88/89 2.5 cal for sale?

Well if your base timing was at 14, that's to much. What fuel are you running? I'd say if you melted down two motors and have no clue why, you should invest in a scanner/WB o2 and do some data logging.

[overlordsshadow]

Um, ya. Was hoping the egt gauge would have helped with that but I guess not. Only thing is they were just partial melts so some pistons are still perfectly fine and the second time the block is even still okay, along with rings. 90 compression on a melted piston with a a blown out head gastket(blew out all the coolant in the engine and rad) is pretty good.

I've got other stuff to worry about besides baggin around town all the time looking for a quick race. Need a bike and a house so TD will have to wait a few years and by then srt will be junk yard friendly, maybe even the srt calibur.

[Gearhead24-7]

Hi Chris, I wouldn't exactly call it luck. We've sold many of these to many satisfied customers. You've probably got some other issue or setup that is difficult to tune for without being on a dyno. You say you bought it from someone else and we've sent you three replacements?

Who is running the show down there? I have explained this situation to Cindy countless times. She knows the exact history of this computer. I astounds me that I have to explain this yet again!!!! I sent very clear, exact details on my vehicle setup with each returned unit. This is obvious proof that you don't listen or care about this situation.

If my setup is so impossible to tune, then why do the problems only exist when when your calibration is installed?

When every single drivability and performance issue is solved by replacing your calibration with a stock unit, changing NOTHING else. What other issues do I need to address?

I've tried 2 different map sensors, 2 different sets of injectors, 3 different sets of plugs and a few other tricks I've learned after the past 15 years of building Chrysler turbo motors. The result is the always the same. If there's something else I should look at please inform me! I asked Cindy that very question after explaning the problems for the fourth or fifth time, and SHE HERSELF TOLD ME THE CALIBRATION WAS THE PROBLEM!!!!! I have an OTC4000 scan tool, that I thought would help with the diagnosis, but it hasn't been able communicate with any of your cals....even tho I was told that that shouldn't be the case.

This past go-round, I had to call 4 times over the course of a month to get the cal. back in time for the drive to Chryslers at Carlisle, it's still won't run.

I call and talk to Cindy on 7-3-07, explain the problems, I'm told I'll be sent another computer to try.

I call again on 7-24-07, get told the same thing.

Here it is 8-6-07 and still nothing....and I have to start all over explainig the problem?

I give up.

[overlordsshadow]

The local guys keep telling me that I am a dumbass for even using the stage 5 cal. Keep telling me any errors I have with hot and cold starts were the cal. It has worked good for me I think, until something catastrophic happens.

[JamesL]

Who is running the show down there? I have explained this situation to Cindy countless times. She knows the exact history of this computer. I astounds me that I have to explain this yet again!!!!.....SNIP. ....and I have to start all over explainig the problem?

I give up.

Didn't mean to butt in Chris. I wasn't aware you were working with Cindy so I'll refrain from further useless comment.

[JamesL]

Um, ya. Was hoping the egt gauge would have helped with that but I guess not. Only thing is they were just partial melts so some pistons are still perfectly fine and the second time the block is even still okay, along with rings. 90 compression on a melted piston with a a blown out head gastket(blew out all the coolant in the engine and rad) is pretty good.

I've got other stuff to worry about besides baggin around town all the time looking for a quick race. Need a bike and a house so TD will have to wait a few years and by then srt will be junk yard friendly, maybe even the srt calibur.

EGT is a good indicator to an issue, but it doesn't tell enough to understand whether the high exhaust temp is due to timing or fuel or both. If I understand you to say your using 90 octane fuel, I would suggest using the highest octane available in your area. S5 requires 93 octane at a min. Is the fuel in your area a 90/10 mix?

I can certainly understand a reassesment of the priorities. Good luck and feel free to give us a call if you need further assistance.

[overlordsshadow]

Was using 91 octane from Shell. The best gas That I can get around here besides straight race gas at way too high a price. I didn't miss seeing and instruction sheet on your website or in the box did I? It would have been nice to know these things when the cal got to me.

[JamesL]

Was using 91 octane from Shell. The best gas That I can get around here besides straight race gas at way too high a price. I didn't miss seeing and instruction sheet on your website or in the box did I? It would have been nice to know these things when the cal got to me.

Typically, that information is provided when we are given the specs of your setup. If you weren't told that, I'm going to have to speak to the staff.