Hello
what´s the good brand and model of paint to protect from rust? somebody use por15, fluid film, fertan-usa, upol?
thanks
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Hello
what´s the good brand and model of paint to protect from rust? somebody use por15, fluid film, fertan-usa, upol?
thanks
The factory comes with its own rust prevention.. the valve cover gasket or oil pan gasket will leave constantly and keep the underside evenly coated with oil as long as you continue to drive it.
but POR15 works.
yeah but it only saves the center of the car
now , if we could pressurize the wheel bearings with engine oil or trans fluid we could save the rocker panels too
I like Fluid Film. It's not a petroleum product, and it doesn't wash off. I respray it about once a year on my daily driver.
I'm a huge fan also. I used a kit from Eastwood to encapsulate and undercoat the bottom of my NYer. I also use fluid film each fall and the car has held up very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by 89BaronGTC
in canada we have something called
rust check
it works well
there are shops that do the car and rattle cans in the stores to do smaller things
it also removes a lot of rust if reasonably light
it prolongs the life of wiring insulation and I used it to fix a totally seized carburetor throttle plate
granted I did forget it for 6-8 months soaking in the pan sitting under my truck project but my carb works
While we're on the subject, I have found Rust Bullet to be pretty nice too.
I have used POR-15 extensively on my Shelby Lancer and old Omni GLH Turbo and it has held up well. I did most all the chassis components and sub frames when rebuilding the suspension/steering/brakes etc about 15 years ago.
The only thing I regret using it on was the fuel tank. It doesn’t adhere to galvanized very well. You also don’t want to use it on anything that is going to have direct sunlight exposure since UV will break it down.
I'll add
for galvanised parts - like the front bell housing covers
if you have a decent piece to start clean it thoroughly , rub it some with the steel or bronze wool to smooth it some and spray it with rattle can clear automotive lacquer .. the cheep stuff at the box store will do fine
in fact it will look awesome , forever
engine degreaser will not only help clean it , it will also neutralize the zinc in the galvanizing
(learned from dad : the degreaser helps keep paint from peeling off NEW old school GAL eavestroughing)
i second. rust bullet and fluid film.Quote:
Originally Posted by cordes
that said, looking at miles (chromguy) 87 shadow thats been daily driven in canada since new makes me want to try his grease spraying method.....
Brian
The grease spraying is very effective especially in the heavily salted area, like Nova Scotia. It provides a significant barrier from the elements, My dad has sprayed dozens of vehicles with similar results. The downside is working on the car is messy with no need of BPblaster or similar.... and requires special high pressure sprayerQuote:
Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo
My brother uses a easy sprayable gel as it can be applied by using a simple pneumatic undercoating gun similar to this https://www.ebay.com/itm/LINERXTREEM...-/192441405536 Once the gel dries it leaves behind thin layer of grease. My brother lives in Nova Scotia and has been doing this on a yearly basis for 20 years. His cars all look great even when driven on heavily salted roads. The product is also acceptable with the DOE.
I will find out the name of the product he uses and report back.
Does anyone use, used motor oil? I'm thinking that if I get a sprayer and put used oil in the rear quarters, and doors it would go a long way toward getting the very hard to reach areas.
it will run out the body drains so you'll need something under the car to catch the extra
I did the quarter panel bottom seems and poured half a litre in each rocker
it dribbled for some time but I think it helped even years after as it sat in my yard
my 79 f150 was driven every day since new
it was oil sprayed twice every year , spring and fall and still has/had (sold) mint floors to this day
70's f150 in the salt belt still has floors 40 years later says everything you need to know about oil spray with regularity
your car actually rots in the spring when it's still full of salt and it rains a lot
- or parked in the garage where it's sheltered , salty and wet and doesn't freeze
Yes it works quite well but I new oil is best IMO and for interior of the doors and rockers. Pick the thickest oil you can get. heat it up and then spray. Park the car on a tarp for a few days or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by cordes
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Yupper :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Johny Dodge
used can have acids in it too
and it usually STINKS
re used
makes really good rusty thread releaser..
I hadda do my front brake pads last summer
bleeders were stuck to the point of STOP TRYIN'
I put a couple of drips off the truck's dip stick on them and came back to them the next day
with minimal effort they backed out easy
at 17000 km's + yeah the oil in my truck was pretty used...
for giggles my grand marquis 4.6 went 100 000 km's and ten years without an oil or filter change
still ran like new when I decided I didn't need it any more
granted it had a bad oil leak in the pan and would need 3 litres every few months
- or rather it would GET 3 every few months...
I use q-state non synthetic ONLY , ever
I haven't lost a motor since I gave up regular oil changes with castrol
Fluid Film is good as rust prevention, like on a new car or a southern car with no rust. You still have to take care of whats there if rusting has already started. My 2018 Tacoma Off Road gets the FF treatment yearly for that reason.
Seal Out helped my 1996 Ram live 20+ years. Find it at your local automotive paint supplier.
Here is one of the product I use with a standard Schutz type pneumatic undercoating sprayer
http://ca.proformproducts.com/en/products/coatings/rustproofing/dripless-oil-annual-rustproofing/
https://www.princessauto.com/en/detail/undercoating-gun/A-p0432377e
Here is a picture of my grease sprayer when I want to get serious.:eyebrows:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3...lMckdOclBwNnV3
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What am I doing wrong with the Fluid Film? I've tried it extensively on my truck and my '91 Daytona. It didn't do anything to protect them, and washed off just from driving in the rain.
I coat it really heavily and let it sit. It does a good job of forming a lasting film, especially on the suspension of my cars. If you really want it to work well, I think you'll need to reapply once in the middle of winter depending on where you live.Quote:
Originally Posted by supercrackerbox
I use NHOC (New Hampshire Oil Undercoat) on my truck and Evo. What's nice about it is it has a graphite type substance in it. It's much thicker than Fluid Film. You more or less need to paint it on, or use an undercoating gun to apply it. It creeps quite well when it gets warm, so its a good idea to apply it during the warm summer/fall months before the temps drop drastically. Due to the creeping action, it also helps to break down into rusted fasteners, and slows/stops galvanic corrosion as well. I just dab a bit on every brake fitting I can find underhood and on the frame when Im around it for maintenance and NEVER had a problem getting things apart. It's designed to not be a "rust-proofer" and more of a preventative. The only way to truly rust-proof a vehicle is to get at it the day you buy it, brand new. Once rust is there, its there, and short of electrolysis, will never be "gone". So its designed to soak into the metal, and create a watertight, self-healing barrier that you can re-apply once a year or so. Its also non-toxic, so I don't need to worry about my animals getting into it and dying or something to that effect. The "back to black" stuff is made more for undercarriages and components that have visible rust on them. They also
No, I'm not a salesman, it just works. I love it. Check it out
https://nhoilundercoating.com/
Interesting that this sounds identical to the product I use "Proform" both even have a fruity smell. It even looks the same once appliedQuote:
Originally Posted by turismolover22
Miracle Paint is what I use.