BadAss 2.2L/2.5L Equal Length Runner Tubular Header Group Buy

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Originally Posted by Juggy

whats the flange thickness at the head???? looks to be 5/16 or 3/8 at most

I see the flange has not been seperated between the ports?? is this thing going to bend n flex? warping the initial surface???

BTW looks great!! if i have/had money id be all over it....and yes aaron is right about the group buy section, it doesnt get the exposure it should!

edit: how much space was between the L body firewall and t4 comp housing???? think a GT30R could fit back there with this? :love:

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The head flange started out as 1/4" and due to some warpage during welding I surface ground it completely flat. on one end it is only 1/8"! :eek: but amazingly enough it worked fine and never really warped enough that it could not be bolted flat. Eventually after many 30psi (intake so what 60 in the header?) runs it did start leaking a little on the ends but nothing you could hear. As stated the copies will be 1/2" flanges.

Very close to the firewall with the E cover, Thermotec on the firewall recomended.

how bout an option of external wastegate?

I am very impressed with the header.
Just like I was impressed with Aaron's Header.

Now if JT could OFFER all the extra pieces needed to help make it more of a bolt on I to would interested in one.

Chuck

After many requests, all posts not related to the group buy moved here.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=34601

Lets keep this thread on topic please.

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Originally Posted by OmniLuvr

how bout an option of external wastegate?

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That would be hard to package with everything else in the way plumbed off the collector like it would want to be done. For mounting an external gate with this header, you could make a custom downpipe and using the WG hole turbine housing. If you are looking for more... 8valves can make full race headers ;)

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Originally Posted by BIG PSI

I am very impressed with the header.
Just like I was impressed with Aaron's Header.

Now if JT could OFFER all the extra pieces needed to help make it more of a bolt on I to would interested in one.

Chuck

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Thanks Chuck. I am thinking about offering that but know how alot of the DIY T-Mers like to roll... Also the oil return to the oil pan will possibly need to be routed differently per the car and axle combo that is in it so not easy to spec out precisely.

yeah, i agree, theres a lot going on around that collector, and i thought there would be more room in between the header and intake, pretty tight for an external. i like the turbine hole wastegate idea, im trying to build one right now.

OK...I'm going to post here as well...

If I could scrounge up the $$$, then I'd HIGHLY consider running one of these headers. I think for what I want to try and accomplish and my performance goals, this part would work nicely. :thumb:

For those interested, how important is it that you can use the stock type SV housing, since you would have to make your own downpipe anyways?

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Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance

For those interested, how important is it that you can use the stock type SV housing, since you would have to make your own downpipe anyways?

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I'd rather not have to buy a different SV to make it work but if it's necessary for L body clearance . . . . or similar engineering/fit cause, then OK.

Honestly, I don't really care TOO much, but it would be nice to be able to use a stock-type SV assembly like TU's. However if that's not possible, then going with an external set-up would be my next move and I'd use a V-band for the DP. My only question then would be what to do about taking up for engine movement? Even though I run all poly mounts and a solid bobble, it still moves a little, so are we talking having to use a bellows assembly or what?

If it is suggested to go to an external wastegate set-up, is there going to be a provision to do that?

I would prefer to use stock parts, in terms of the SW. So because I want this, it must be so. Thank you. :D

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Originally Posted by Reaper1

Honestly, I don't really care TOO much, but it would be nice to be able to use a stock-type SV assembly like TU's. However if that's not possible, then going with an external set-up would be my next move and I'd use a V-band for the DP. My only question then would be what to do about taking up for engine movement? Even though I run all poly mounts and a solid bobble, it still moves a little, so are we talking having to use a bellows assembly or what?

If it is suggested to go to an external wastegate set-up, is there going to be a provision to do that?

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If not running the stock SV, you use some flex hose, like so-

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...erapics060.jpg

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Originally Posted by minigts

i would prefer to use stock parts, in terms of the sw. So because i want this, it must be so. Thank you. :d

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lol :)

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Originally Posted by turbovanman

If not running the stock SV, you use some flex hose, like so-

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or solid motor mounts :D

Well, as I've said I've got ALL poly mounts AND the solid bobble(the tranny mount is the "race" version). I figured it would require some bellows, and that doesn't bother me, just wanted to make sure...

If I provided you guys with a flange for a different turbo would it be possible for you to put it on instead of the chrysler flange?

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Originally Posted by 4cefedomni

If I provided you guys with a flange for a different turbo would it be possible for you to put it on instead of the chrysler flange?

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That might be a possibility but we could not gaurantee fitment of a different turbo with respect to the firewall, started, power steering, etc...

When will people relize that swingvavles SUCK anyways.

90 degree 02 housing with v-band FTW!!!

True, that is the best fro performance, however, that requires an external wastegate and even more fab... The 3" SV's available do a nice job.

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Originally Posted by Mopar318

When will people relize that swingvavles SUCK anyways.

90 degree 02 housing with v-band FTW!!!

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I've been saying this for years
Now if I can get people to use dual port wastegate cans or better yet external wastegates my mission will be complete