Suggestions? Tight squeeze turbo oil fitting help

So I'm trying to change wastegate actuators, and unfortunately i need to change brackets.
What makes it worse is i can't get one of the bracket bolts out due to the positioning of the oil supply line fitting.
I can't get my tubing wrench in there, or an open end.
The only thing i can think of is possibly a crows foot might loosen enough for me to re-angle the lower fitting. Or i would have to remove the stainless hose to get the bolt out.
Any suggestions?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5l...w?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5l...w?usp=drivesdk

Don't know why it didn't let me attach pics. Here they are Attachment 60373
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And this is what I'm trying to install for testing. Kit came with a straight and bent arm.
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Tight is an understatement! Unfortunately, I got nothing.... only that you need to remove what you need to remove. Sorry.

Nice looking actuator Wayne. Details?

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Originally Posted by DOHCRT

Nice looking actuator Wayne. Details?

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I bought this one:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...437284&alt=web

But also bought another spring to test. And i bought another nipple, threaded the spring side port, and installed a couple orings on the shaft in the little bellows looking sleave. The spring side can hold about 5psi without leaking.
So, i would like to get this installed so i can test.
I ordered this last night:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...958243&alt=web
Hopefully i can get in there with that.

While you are waiting for that cool crows foot socket, you might squirt some PB Blaster on there. I've found that letting it sit for a couple of days helps a lot, going back and squirting it every day to keep it wet and to keep it wicking into the threads.

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Originally Posted by wheming

So I'm trying to change wastegate actuators, and unfortunately i need to change brackets.
What makes it worse is i can't get one of the bracket bolts out due to the positioning of the oil supply line fitting.
I can't get my tubing wrench in there, or an open end.
The only thing i can think of is possibly a crows foot might loosen enough for me to re-angle the lower fitting. Or i would have to remove the stainless hose to get the bolt out.
Any suggestions?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5l...w?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5l...w?usp=drivesdk

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I bent and ground down a cheap wrench.

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Originally Posted by Chris W

I bent and ground down a cheap wrench.

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I was going to do this today. Just got home, so i'm going to see if I can make something that will work.
Test&Tune on this Sunday, but don't know if I'll have enough time.

So sfter an excruciating time looking at granite in Raleigh, i was finally able to spend some time regrouping on the situation.
So i found some cheapo wrenches i had around and picked the one with the thinnest wall, and marked it to trim out an opening.
Attachment 60377
Some trial fitting and retrimming later i ended up with this:
Attachment 60378
It worked, and i was able to move the oil supply over a bit and remove the Z-bracket that came with my turbo.
Attachment 60379
More test fitting and had to shorten the bent kinugawa arm probably about 3/4", but success...
Attachment 60380

Mityvac shows some arm movement at about 15psi, and looks to be fully open at a bit above 20 or so.
Will have to put the rest of it back together and test it.
I have a 58mm TB to install, and might just do that now to save time, but i wanted go wait to only change that to see if it improves. So not sure yet if i will. I need to check/compare the AIS motors, since the 58 has a different plug.

I was going to say; Even if you can loosen it, you won't get it past that oil line lol

Damn, I'm getting Slow these past few years. I feel the need, the need for Speed!

Good luck with the testing, hope everything goes well! :thumb::thumb:

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I was going to say; Even if you can loosen it, you won't get it past that oil line lol

Damn, I'm getting Slow these past few years. I feel the need, the need for Speed!

Good luck with the testing, hope everything goes well! :thumb::thumb:

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Luckily it is a very short bolt.
Loosening all and rotating the compressor housing wasn't really an option either.
I'm glad it worked, and i hope it doesn't leak! Everything is tight, so i'm hoping it doesn't.
Weather is crappy rainy, so don't know if I'll get it back together today.

And don't worry, the van won't be breaking any of your records! Even if the new actuator works out! Lol.

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Originally Posted by wheming

Luckily it is a very short bolt.
Loosening all and rotating the compressor housing wasn't really an option either.
I'm glad it worked, and i hope it doesn't leak! Everything is tight, so i'm hoping it doesn't.
Weather is crappy rainy, so don't know if I'll get it back together today.

And don't worry, the van won't be breaking any of your records! Even if the new actuator works out! Lol.

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What!? Tell me it ain't so! I would Love to see your van break the Chargers records!

I mean, how Cool would that be! :eyebrows:

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What!? Tell me it ain't so! I would Love to see your van break the Chargers records!

I mean, how Cool would that be! :eyebrows:

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Lol! I appreciate it Rob! I love to see it do it too, but i think your 10.04 is safe! I don't think 10's will be in the cards, so i don't think you'll have anything to worry about.

There are a few things i need to address before i can push much more power. I was hopeful about the actuator change, but a quick initial test in the subdivision yielded 8.1psi, and i was expecting something around 12. I'll have to try out on the road today. I think i may need to readjust the arm tension, and its not easy to get back in there now that its all back together.

Wow I really need to find a TU manifold or make another manifold. My wastegate actuator is about .050 from my brake booster and I had to remove my heater lines.

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Originally Posted by shackwrrr

Wow I really need to find a TU manifold or make another manifold. My wastegate actuator is about .050 from my brake booster and I had to remove my heater lines.

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I think TU has them in stock. They had a new batch made, and i thought he had some left on the shelf.
And there has been a few that pop up for sale here and there.

So not really the results i expected, I'll have to try and adjust this actuator further when i have time.
With our annual maintenance shutdown at work for the better part of April, I think i missed my chance to make a new record before SDAC. With the heat of summer I'll have to focus on getting things worked out for Cecil in Nov.
I hope i haven't set myself too far back and can be back on schedule for SDAC27.
I did try to address my intake elbow while i had it apart. I'm no Steve Menegon, but i think i did ok...
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Originally Posted by wheming

I think TU has them in stock. They had a new batch made, and i thought he had some left on the shelf.
And there has been a few that pop up for sale here and there.

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We still have a few TU Hybrid Headers left in stock. When they are gone, they are gone. We don't intend to make any more.

Chris-TU

So I fought with this some more, and i think the wastegate puck is closing off. But after testing, my boost is still lower than with the garrett actuator. My "high boost" setting which netted 25psi before only got me 16 with this actuator.

I guess i need some other springs to try. I should have bought the kit with a spring assortment. Springs are like $15/ea, and i think i'll order the 1.5 bar, 1.7 bar, and maybe the 2 bar springs.

With the added surface area of the 35.5mm port (and 38mm wastegate puck) i think i'll need these heavier springs since the diaphragm diameter is smaller also.