project srt-4 mini

[ohiorob]

I have a srt-4 motor that needed a good home and i found it. made a deal with chuck green for his clean 89 mini. let the swapping begin.
pics and info as i go along.

[Dave]

Hope I'm not too early here, Rob.

Here are the pics so far:

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/647/medium/IM006200.JPG

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/647/medium/IM006201.JPG

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/647/medium/IM006206.JPG

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/647/medium/IM006204.JPG

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/647/medium/IM006205.JPG

[Domino]

wow. that's gonna be nice.

[mcsvt]

That is going to be fun :thumb:

[WVRampage]

The rims are a nice touch,It looks like it is ment to be in the older car and not a neon.

[ohiorob]

should be a lot of fun. I know the grandkids will love it.
thanks Bryan for the pics :thumb:

[Mike_Shepard]

Man-O-Man that is going to be awesome.

[TurbododgePirate]

You're a sick... sick man Rob.

Looks awesome!!

[ohiorob]

OBSTACLES

#1 intake curves in at bottom and the tb will not bolt up, it hits the trans.
so i chopped the end off and one off an old turbo I intake, monday i'll take it up the road to get welded.
#2 the oil filter spins on an oil cooler which is under the pass. axle. the coolant lines from the oil cooler interfer with the inner cv . should be an easy fix. later

[turbovanman²]

Thats going to be a wicked ride. You've got me more excited to get my van done now.

I know what you mean about the oil cooler, I just put one of those engines in a 1st Gen Neon. Got pics of that as I couldn't find where they put one of the lines so I just put it into the heater hose return.

[TurbododgePirate]

OBSTACLES

#1 intake curves in at bottom and the tb will not bolt up, it hits the trans.
so i chopped the end off and one off an old turbo I intake, monday i'll take it up the road to get welded.
#2 the oil filter spins on an oil cooler which is under the pass. axle. the coolant lines from the oil cooler interfer with the inner cv . should be an easy fix. later

Rob. I have a 2.4 minivan intake that goes over the valve cover. I am sure you have plenty of room there if you want it. Besides, that SRT manifold would fit much better in my charger :)

[Dave]

Rob. I have a 2.4 minivan intake that goes over the valve cover. I am sure you have plenty of room there if you want it. Besides, that SRT manifold would fit much better in my charger :)

The junk PT cruiser intake?

[ohiorob]

Bryan do you have pics of the back of the engine?

[Speedeuphoria]

Its a known thing that the TB hits the auto trans, you can just loose the oil cooler if you want and put a larger oil filter on(I have the big mustang filter on my SRT pan that barely clears the pass axle)

[Dave]

Bryan do you have pics of the back of the engine?

Nope, I'll grab some when I drop off the van.

[TurbododgePirate]

The junk PT cruiser intake?

Nope it's a little different than the PT intake with a small plenum after the TB and long runners.

[Dave]

Well it looks to be almost done. Here are more pics for Rob. He did an excellent job on it!

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/647/medium/IM006373.JPG

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/647/medium/IM006372.JPG

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/647/medium/IM006374.JPG

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/647/medium/IM006369.JPG

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/647/medium/IM006376.JPG

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/647/medium/IM006378.JPG

If anyone wants pics of something in particular or just more I'll post more up. I can take a pic of anything else to help everybody out, if that's okay with Rob.

Good work, Rob! :nod: Can't wait to take all 3 vans to the track in April.

[BIG PSI]

You guys NEED to check out this MINI that Rob Pachner is doing---wow

WTG Rob
Chuck

[BadAssPerformance]

wow. that's gonna be nice.

Everything Rob builds kiskass!

Looking good Rob! :thumb:

[turbovanman²]

Wow, looks really good, :thumb: :partywoot:

[ohiorob]

thank's guys. well I got it running yesterday in less than 35 days from the time i got the van home to now. being that the motor was already turbo it made the swap simpler. I need to make an exhaust and tightin up a few loose ends and it will be ready for the road.
with the 17'' wheels the van looks like a SUV. so I'm going to see if the srt struts, springs, spindals and brakes will work for the front. the back i'll go with the plate and air shocks.

thanks again Bryan for posting the pics. and thanks to Cindy from FWD Performance for the cal. that made it all possible.

[BadAssPerformance]

Sweet, it's running already :thumb:

Yeah, gotta lower it for sure. My lowered shadow even got taller with those 17's

http://www.badassperformance.com/mrides/clone/srt/srt_lr.jpg

If the SRT-4 hardware doesn't bolt up nicely, I think that a set of '89 Daytona struts and spindles should lower it a bit too.

[turbovanman²]

If definatley needs to go down, like this. I have 16's though.


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a228/turbovanman/Canoncamerapics318.jpg

[DodgeZ]

Man... I still haven't gotten my motor in the car yet :( one day

[GLHNSLHT2]

If definatley need to go down, like this. I have 16's though.


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a228/turbovanman/Canoncamerapics318.jpg



Simon am I correct in saying "Nice S10 airdam"?? :) :thumb:

[turbovanman²]

Simon am I correct in saying "Nice S10 airdam"?? :) :thumb:

Good eye, :nod:

Yes, it makes a big difference, the front end is so dancey on the highway, it feels alot more planted and it runs cooler. It does rub on speedbumps etc but I don't care, its very soft and flexible. Had to take it off though when it snowed.

Heres a front shot-


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a228/turbovanman/Canoncamerapics319.jpg

[Dave]

Rob, you do have an 89 Shelby sitting at your house still don't you??

[Dave]

It runs. http://videos.streetfire.net/video/5b186360-de65-4953-bfcb-98b10155a05f.htm

[Speedeuphoria]

what was 83? oil pressure

[Dave]

Yah 83psi cold. Which for the 8v's is really high, I think. My van sits at 60psi cold.

[whywoody]

Nice van and really nice swap!
You'll have fun with that,I'm sure!

[Dave]

Here it is all done:

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/647/IM006408.JPG

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/647/IM006410.JPG

[WVRampage]

It fits in there so well.Could you give us some more info on the trans and electronics being used.

[Speedeuphoria]

neon 3spd trans

[86GLHS]

Nice job cant wait to see some vids of it runnin the 1/4 mile

[turbovanman²]

It looks like it sits lower than an 8V? I hope he does run it at the track. :partywoot:

What cal did you end up getting/using?

What size exhaust and what muffler?

[Speedeuphoria]

Man... I still haven't gotten my motor in the car yet :( one day

chop chop mate

[ohiorob]

I had a lot of fun doing this swap. after working on the charger the mini was like, well what can i say, look at all that room :thumb:
stock electronics with a stage 5 dohc cal. from Cindy at FWD Performance. the tranny is from a 97 neon with a413 guts. the plug wires are from some 90's dohc honda. the exhaust is something that i slapped together, it sucks. I ran out of money and time. next week I'll be going for a ride.

[DodgeZ]

did you use the srt knock sensor?

[DodgeZ]

chop chop mate


I know it. I am a debate now tho. I bought an SRT that has a built motor. I think I am going to do a swap and stick my stock motor in the SRT... not sure the hard choices in life.

It is ready to go in to the car tho.... Well once I find an auto L body trans mount. I bought one but it is some oddball mount from an early year car. A buddy said he has one for me tho, so soon.

http://boostedmopar.com/temp/turbo%20004.jpg

[Mario]

What turbo is that? That's not a GT35R is it?

[ohiorob]

did you use the srt knock sensor?

nope I used the old one and mounted it closer to the front of the motor. It would not screw in to the original hole. I hope it will still work properly.

[ohiorob]

What turbo is that? That's not a GT35R is it?

I wish. it's just the tiny stock one for now.

[DodgeZ]

nope I used the old one and mounted it closer to the front of the motor. It would not screw in to the original hole. I hope it will still work properly.

The SRT one is prolly a lot better if the voltage is the same. They like to be TQ'ed to spec also.

[ohiorob]

The SRT one is prolly a lot better if the voltage is the same. They like to be TQ'ed to spec also.

I think the srt one has two wires how would that work?

[BadAssPerformance]

I think the srt one has two wires how would that work?

Maybe a ground wire?

[turbovanman²]

Your using a 8 valve cal, just stick with the 8 valve knock sensor, don't listen to these guys. The SRT one could be caliabrated differently and might not work when you need it to.

[BadAssPerformance]

Your using a 8 valve cal, just stick with the 8 valve knock sensor, don't listen to these guys. The SRT one could be caliabrated differently and might not work when you need it to.

Good point right there :thumb:

Which one do you have on the Charger Rob? It sems to work pretty damn good! ;)

[DodgeZ]

Your using a 8 valve cal, just stick with the 8 valve knock sensor, don't listen to these guys. The SRT one could be caliabrated differently and might not work when you need it to.

It is hard to say if that is a true statement. First of all he is running a 16v cal so if your theory was true he should run the "16 valve knock sensor" :lol:

Next is the placement of the sensor. Momma Mopar placed them in their spots for a reason. With it relocated a stock one could be reading wrong. The placement of the stock srt4 is on the side of the block.

Plus it is a totally different motor and could ping differently? As in the frequency it pings at. The location of the srt sensor and the sensor itself can detect it but not a old one? Who knows (Frank will prolly post something)? I'd say if 1 volt on the old stuff was bad and 1 volt on the new stuff is bad i'd run the new stuff. Since it is a better sensor and in the right spot for the srt motor.

The SRT knock sensor is very good. On my car I can watch the degrees of timing being pulled because of knock being detected. It changes very quickly. I've never heard the car knock but you see it on the gauge. Of course that could be the same with the old cars but there isn't any cool OBD gauge to plug in.

After thinking about though it would be a good idea to get the check engine mod on the van and test the sensor out.

[DodgeZ]

Which one do you have on the Charger Rob? It sems to work pretty damn good! ;)

That's true!

[turbovanman²]

16 valve cal is based on a 8 valve cal so they use the 8valve knock sensor. Ping is ping, its all bad, :(

[ohiorob]

my theory is the srt depends more on knock control to run at its best under any condition. the old computers were made for the old style heads and even when there modded for more aggressive timing, the new dohc head will put knock at a higher threshold and becomes less of a problem.

on my charger i set my timing at 16. with 114 race gas and have no problems @ 28 pounds of boost and 75 shot of nitrous. its truly amazing.

[turbovanman²]

Only 28 psi Rob, sheesh, :lol:

Yes, the 16 valves motor are prone to less knock due to there wicked combustion chamber design. Enhances efficiency, better burn, less knock and they need less timing usually.

[Mario]

I wish. it's just the tiny stock one for now.

Oops. Meant to direct that to Kevin. :)

[Dave]

It's growing attention! http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=1692877&posted=1#post1692877

Thanks Christian, for the link.

[turbovanman²]

Wow, the comments are ignorant but I guess you have to expect that. Bet it can beat a stock or slightly modded RX8, muahahhahaha! :p

I don't feel like signing up or a would explain why you would do that to a Minivan, :D

[ohiorob]

the fun is starting already:evil: and it's not on the road yet.

[ohiorob]

what good is the srt-4 in the mini if it don't handle like a srt-4 ;)

[rdnoel86]

Am I detecting some chassis mods on the horizon??:eyebrows: :D

[ohiorob]

Am I detecting some chassis mods on the horizon??:eyebrows: :D

yup:nod:
someone shoot me now. I'm becoming obsess with the damn thing :mad:

[WVRampage]

Well I guess you are now a van guy and theres nothing to get you away from it now......

[Dave]

Hey Rob, how about sticking the Shelby's motor in the van??? :eyebrows: C'MON!!! :D

[ohiorob]

Well I guess you are now a van guy and theres nothing to get you away from it now......

me being an old hippie i always had a place in my heart for vans and wagons.
nothing changed just the hair got shorter and grayer.

[ohiorob]

the van is on hold for now. I got to get the charger back together and get her ready for racing :thumb:

[BadAssPerformance]

me being an old hippie i always had a place in my heart for vans and wagons. nothing changed just the hair got shorter and grayer.

Thats cool man... cool

http://www.hotrodhotline.com/feature/2004show/04lacops/assets/images/db_images/db_027.jpg

http://www.hoppershippieart.com/images/fullvan.jpg

http://www.sfu.ca/~emh/magic_bus.jpg

[WVRampage]

I hope to one day see your van so that I can check out the fine details of the install that the pics dont show that well,I figure that it looks even cleaner in person.

[ohiorob]

Thats cool man... cool

http://www.hotrodhotline.com/feature/2004show/04lacops/assets/images/db_images/db_027.jpg

http://www.hoppershippieart.com/images/fullvan.jpg

http://www.sfu.ca/~emh/magic_bus.jpg

Had one like in the first pic.it was an old ford. I put a tire on the front too. it was all black. what fond memorys:evil:

[Aries_Turbo]

knock sensor stuff.....

if the range of the voltage output is the same as the old one, use the new one thats calibrated for the FREQUENCY of the knock for that motor. or determine the frequency range of the new one. if the SRT sensor is between 6000 and 6300 hz then you are fine to use the old sensor but then the placement becomes an issue.

Brian

[DodgeZ]

knock sensor stuff.....

if the range of the voltage output is the same as the old one, use the new one thats calibrated for the FREQUENCY of the knock for that motor. or determine the frequency range of the new one. if the SRT sensor is between 6000 and 6300 hz then you are fine to use the old sensor but then the placement becomes an issue.

Brian

I am glad there are smart people around here! :thumb:

[turbovanman²]

I am glad there are smart people around here! :thumb:


Where, :confused: :p

[Aries_Turbo]

obviously not right here ^^^^^^ ;)

Brian

[ohiorob]

I'm no electronic wizerd and i'm just guessing that the srt knock sensor is made to work with the srt computer being that the knock sensor has 2 wires. the location of the sensor on the old 2.4s and the srt are in the same place. the srt block is threaded different for a reason. the old 2.4 and the 2.2/ 2.5 use the same knock sensor, so I've been told. so I'm going to tap the hole out and put the old sensor were it belongs. if i'm wrong I'll fine out this summer. this stuff is all new to me so sometimes I gotta take chances and hope for the best.

[turbovanman²]

Exactly Rob, and thats what I said earlier, ;) Your 8V cal is calibrated for the stock knock sensor, putting on another model with stop the computer from hearing knock, :(

[Aries_Turbo]

Exactly Rob, and thats what I said earlier, ;) Your 8V cal is calibrated for the stock knock sensor, putting on another model with stop the computer from hearing knock, :(

unless the SRT knock sensor is the same voltage range as the stock 8v setup and operates on a similar scale of lower voltage at low rpms and higher voltages at higher rpms. the 2 wire difference of the SRT sensor is most likely a dedicated ground rather than using the block/intake as ground.

given the thought that the 2.4L non srt might use the same sensor as the old TD's (which would make sense as knock sensors frequency tuning is highly dependant on cyl bore diameter) makes it easier as it should work with the 8v electronics.

Simon, it doesnt matter at all if the sensor matches the electronics if the frequency of the knock isnt detected. if the knock frequency of a 2.4L is 5400hz then it wont register the knock at all on a sensor that is tuned to 6000-6300hz. you need to make sure that the voltage AND FREQUENCY matches up. you can use a bosch wide range sensor and a PC with a sound car input and Audacity (a free program with a spectrum analyzer built in) to determine the frequency of the knock in Hz if there isnt anything published.

Brian

[turbovanman²]

Simon, it doesnt matter at all if the sensor matches the electronics if the frequency of the knock isnt detected. if the knock frequency of a 2.4L is 5400hz then it wont register the knock at all on a sensor that is tuned to 6000-6300hz. you need to make sure that the voltage AND FREQUENCY matches up. you can use a bosch wide range sensor and a PC with a sound car input and Audacity (a free program with a spectrum analyzer built in) to determine the frequency of the knock in Hz if there isnt anything published.

Brian


Thats is true also, but for his street needs, he should be fine just using the stock 8valve knock sensor.

[ohiorob]

I try not to over think things and to keep it simple. it all works out most of the time :nod:

[Aries_Turbo]

Thats is true also, but for his street needs, he should be fine just using the stock 8valve knock sensor.

now how do you know that? street vehicles definitely need correctly working knock detection just as much or more so than non-street vehicles. truth is, you
dont know that.

now looking up part numbers, replacement parts are a different number.... i looked on rockauto.com and the old td one is AIRTEX Part # 5S2180 and the Stratus 2.4L one is AIRTEX Part # 5S2183..... close part numbers but definitely different.

then take a look at the images.

TD sensor is the dark and crisp image, 2.4L is a little washed out and grey.

close but not exact. now with this examination of part numbers and images, i would be comfortable saying its probably ok to use the 2.4L sensor but im not 100% sure. how would I be sure? Id ask the company that makes the sensors.

looking at the pics it does just look like the bolt thread changed.

Simon, Im sorry if you think Im being hard on you. Im really not trying to but we are responsible for the correct and responsible info and advice given on this board. And I have specific info on the knock detection circuitry so I cant, with good conscience, let things slide by like "meh, its fiiiine." :)

So yeah, Rob, simple is good and you of all people know the 2.4L so im sure youll be all set but I try to help as much as possible.

Good luck and nice van! :)

Brian

[DodgeZ]

Rob you should really look in to getting a cal with the check engine mod. Then you can see the knock sensor flashing on your dash.

[Aries_Turbo]

yeah, i second that. :) I just finished up a blueberry base cal for the 2.5 but I dont know what the 2.4L likes as far as cals. prolly pretty close to the 2.5L but i dunno.

Brian

[flatlander757]

I know people with LT1 Camaros frequently had problems with their knock sensor detecting false knock and would install a resistor of some specific value(forget exactly but that's not important) to eliminate it and not throw an SES light.

I'm sure if you can find out the resistance values/frequency of knock on the SRT-4 motor and what the TD knock sensor looks for you can splice something inline to "modify" the signal that the TD knock sensor sees so it will correctly work.

I'm not electronics wizard... and I'm not entirely sure if this is at all possible, but thought I'd throw the idea out there to hopefully open a door for you:)

[ohiorob]

thanks guys for making me think about this knock sensor instead of hoping it works properly :o

[ohiorob]

Rob you should really look in to getting a cal with the check engine mod. Then you can see the knock sensor flashing on your dash.

how can this be done?

[turbovanman²]

thanks guys for making me think about this knock sensor instead of hoping it works properly :o

Blame Brian and Kevin, overthinkers, :eyebrows:


how can this be done?


Cindy should be able to turn it on, my cals from Shelgame have that option and when Paul at TU was doing them, he was adding it also. Its kinda neat, like a bad video game, :lol:

[Aries_Turbo]

yeah if cindy has the capability she could have the code added to make the CEL blink but the blueberry has more than just that. i particularly like the launch rev limiter but its a little useless on an auto.

its almost as easy just to watch a scanner to see when you have knock.

Brain

[azturbomini]

I am getting the "ITCH' for another mini...

Very well done Rob.

[BIG PSI]

I am getting the "ITCH' for another mini...

Very well done Rob.

About time you showed up there JR....

I have missed you and your witt...

Chuck

[turbovanman²]

I am getting the "ITCH' for another mini...

Very well done Rob.


Dude, wassup, :thumb:

Whats shaking, :partywoot:

[azturbomini]

Hey guys! I am great! I hope ya'll are too. 05-06 was a hell of a strugle cash wise but I am starting a new adventure as district manager for a plumbing manufacturer out of Germany so hopefully by taking a 40% increase in pay I will be able to focus on purchasing a mini and have the cash to dump into it. Did I say "DUMP?"!!!

[turbovanman²]

Hey guys! I am great! I hope ya'll are too. 05-06 was a hell of a strugle cash wise but I am starting a new adventure as district manager for a plumbing manufacturer out of Germany so hopefully by taking a 40% increase in pay I will be able to focus on purchasing a mini and have the cash to dump into it. Did I say "DUMP?"!!!

Thats awesome, hope your health issues are better too, :thumb:

[azturbomini]

Thats awesome, hope your health issues are better too, :thumb:

I forgot about that! All is good bro. Thanks for your concern!!! :thumb:

[reject]

dude ... I hope you don't mind, but I'll probably be sending you quite a few emails later this year when I start to chase this same setup.

[turbovanman²]

Any updates on it?

[ohiorob]

the mini is just sitting there collecting dust. next it will get body work and paint and maybe nitrous;) . hopefully by the end of the month i'll get to it.

[5sp. mini]

brians intercooler looked great rob sweet. we have to get sum biger tires on his . alan

[Dave]

the mini is just sitting there collecting dust. next it will get body work and paint and maybe nitrous;) . hopefully by the end of the month i'll get to it.

Let me know if you need a hand. Thanks again for building me an awesome trans and helping with the intercooler. I'll bring back your screwdriver next time I'm up there. I'm glad you loaned it to me, I blew the hoses off 4 times on the way home. :D

[MiniMoparKing]

dude ... I hope you don't mind, but I'll probably be sending you quite a few emails later this year when I start to chase this same setup.

Me too, I'm just waiting for some idiot over here to wrap his SRT-4 around a pole, so I can buy the motor off of him. :eyebrows:

[ohiorob]

brians intercooler looked great rob sweet. we have to get sum biger tires on his . alan

my pinto had bigger tires :p

[Dave]

Laugh it up Rob, you got nowhere to race now. :p

[ohiorob]

Laugh it up Rob, you got nowhere to race now. :p

I got a truck and a trailer. I can race anywhere :nod:

[MiniMoparKing]

You really should do a complete write-up on this... This is probably the most interesting engine swap project I've seen since I talked to the guy at the dragstrip running an Air Cooled Porsche Turbo motor in a Beetle. (the damn thing does wheelies!)

Scariest thing is, that it's a very common swap over here...

Speaking of hippie vans... There's also another guy that did it to an old VW bus. :thumb:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SW8CmgcfmE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SW8CmgcfmE

Wait, I just found a video of a VW Bus Race..... :eyebrows:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWLFGPl1Kdk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWLFGPl1Kdk

[ohiorob]

finally got a chance to work on the van tuesday. made a 3'' exhaust for it out of stuff i had laying around. it may be ugly but it should do the trick:thumb: could not start it because i was using the shelby's comp. and i needed it back. sorry no pics. next i'll be doing bodywork.

[BIG PSI]

I was out at Rob's garage checking out my old Mini and seeing how he was coming on doing musical engine swaps with my A-Bodies. I took some photos for you guys to see how the Project SRT Van is coming. I for one can't wait to see it done and running.

Enjoy
Chuck

[BIG PSI]

Here are some more pictures

[BIG PSI]

TTT once more

[Dave]

How's the paint job coming, Rob?

[goinNOwhereFAST]

i just wanted to see an update on the van since im thinking of doing a hybrid motor or the srt4 swap since my father in law left my van in second gear(its auto)and drove on the highway till the motor and trans died.

[Vigo]

ditto for the update. imo this is the van project thats interesting me most at the moment besides my own, which hasnt really started, lol.

[WVRampage]

Hows the van coming,That engine looks like it belongs there.

[ohiorob]

I'm redoing the fuel system. I hope to have it running soon and take it to the track next week. the van is in primer and going to stay that way for now.

[goinNOwhereFAST]

ITS ALIVE

sweet i cant wait to see some vids or times for it and its primer too :love:

[Dave]

Rob once you're done playing around with my van and you finish up yours, let me know and I'll take some videos of it. :thumb:

[contraption22]

Very cool project. And much better looking than a Caliber!

[Dusty_Duster]

Very cool project. And much better looking than a Caliber!

LMAO.

Ain't that the truth. Nice work!

[Speedeuphoria]

its for sale:mad:

[S-BOX-turbo]

Very cool project. And much better looking than a Caliber!

Probably close to the same weight too:nod:

[ohiorob]

recap

89 plymouth voyager
05 stock srt-4 engine, turbo and IC
modified neon auto
stage-5 cal for dohc from Cindy,52lbs injectors,3-bar map,distributor on side of head.
89 shelby daytona front struts,springs and brakes. about 2 3/4 to 3'' lower then stock.
raised the mounting points of the rear leaf springs. about 2 1/4 to 2 1/2 lower then stock.
other stuff. 255 fuel pump, ajustable wastegate, full 3'' exhaust, ported o2 housing.

the van handles great even with worn out struts and shocks. best time at the track with slicks was 13.37 @ 98.67 mph

not for sale.