Looking for a wideband system. Is this one any good?

[Mr overkill]

http://www.boostcontroller.com/index.php?item=269&ret=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.boostcontroller.com%2Findex.p hp%3Fpage%3D1%26category%3D128&PHPSESSID=10f3e22ad93baa66b260f42ed3567a75

i like it cause it has everything all in one?

is there something else you can point me to


what i want is wideband af , boost pressure and Egt

[shadow88]

$600!! whoa!



no further constructive input, sorry.

[cordes]

That thing looks pretty nice, but if you rew just looking for a wideband it is a bit pricy for sure. I would look at their more basic model which I have. It cost me much less, and works well from what others have told me. I have not put my exhaust in the car yet, so I held off on hooking it up all the way. You can do a lot of cool dataloging things with the stock ECU if you want to get just your hands a little bit dirty. Check out shelgame's FREE program for a palm for that.

[altered7151]

Try www.wbo2.com, its an australian company and you can buy their widebands as either a pre-built unit, or a kit that needs to be put together. I got their 2A1 unit in a kit, and with the oxygen sensor and cable it came to under $300. I can log the wideband, 3 voltage inputs ( pretty much any the major sensors on our cars, and anything you can buy a sending unit for, so TPS, Map, Fuel Pressure, etc), Rpm, and 3 egt gauges. It doesn't have a digital display like the one you posted, but it can output to a laptop or pda in real time. You can pick up an old PII laptop for next to nothing and use it as a display. I have an old dell that was like $30 at salvation army.

[Mr overkill]

cordes like i said i want af, boost, and egt

tu and fwp sells a wideband but its only for af im kinda trying to get rid of having 3 piller gauges and just having one.


whats this about the plam system ? is that real time ? what do i need to do to put one of those in?

altered thanks ill look into that

[SpoolinGLH]

Mr. Overkill,

have you check out zeitronix.com?

[OnLooker]

I picked one of these (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Zeitronix-Zt-2-Wideband-AFR-O2_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ43989QQihZ004QQitemZ 140053337731QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW) but still need to install it. It will log egt,boost,tps, and a 5v input.

[contraption22]

I love my Powerdex AFX wideband unit. Only $299!

[altered7151]

Check out this thread also for reviews on the tech-edge: http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8103

I'm the kind of person that researches the crap out of anything before I buy it, and I definitally think the tech-edge is the best bang for the buck. Most other units in its price range could only datalog one or two other inputs besides the O2, but like I said with the tech edge I got O2, three sensor inputs, rpm input, and 3 egt gauges. Plus 1mb of onboard storage for datalogging, or an output stream for realtime on the laptop or palm. Another cool thing is that the unit has a simulated narrowband O2 output that can be adjusted. So you can install the wideband and get rid of the stock sensor, the unit will put out a signal to the ECU simulating the stock narrowband, based off the readings of the wideband. But the kicker to that is you can adjust the output to the ECU, so if you find that at certain rpms you're running rich or lean, you can adjust the O2 output so that the ECU will run the right condition.

[Mr overkill]

thanks spooling thats a nice unit to think about

[Mr overkill]

altered from what i see you have only one "gauge" does it have multiple readings at the same time or do you have to choose what you want to be seen ?

[altered7151]

Yes the actual gauge itself will only be a wideband a/f gauge. I use a laptop for my display and it is fully configurable to show all 8 of your readings plus a graph, or you can remove readouts if you're not using them.

[GLHNSLHT2]

oooh I will be getting that new Zietronix gauge when it comes out, that thing is nice.

[cordes]

Here is the info about the palm software. Can't beat the price.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8866

[Mr overkill]

yea i talked to him about the palm software it wont do wideband or egt

altered i wanted something that i can watch real time at the very min wideband af and egt

i think im gonna go with the zeitronix zt-2 looks like that would be perfect its gonna be a few months before i do but wanted to get input first you know

[Mr overkill]

back to looking

[shad0w2.s_tur80]

http://www.boostcontroller.com/index.php?item=269&ret=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.boostcontroller.com%2Findex.p hp%3Fpage%3D1%26category%3D128&PHPSESSID=10f3e22ad93baa66b260f42ed3567a75

i like it cause it has everything all in one?

is there something else you can point me to


what i want is wideband af , boost pressure and Egt

wow thats amazing kinda pricy but looks sweet

[GLHS592]

i think im gonna go with the zeitronix zt-2 looks like that would be perfect

I like mine so far. It's a pretty nice package.

[Tony Hanna]

I love my Powerdex AFX wideband unit. Only $299!

I did a little looking on Ebay and found the Powerdex unit for $249.99 BIN and $6.15 to ship. The same outfit has the replacement WB sensors for $80.:eek:
I think that's the route I'll be going. :)

[t3rse]

i had a plx m300 in my car and it was almost useless....i wouldn't get that one if I were you...it's almost impossible to get any readings when the a/f it changing. without logging there is no real point. The only time you can see what's going on is once boost settles and you are at WOT, most of the time I've blown gaskets from detonation has been 5 or 6 # under max, where you can't read the a/f b/c it's changing too rapidly. WOT/max boost fuel would be 11.8 and just underneath that, around 20# it'd dip to 13.0 for a split second, just enough to start eroding the head gasket...about 15 pulls later it'd blow. didn't figure this out for a while b/c I couldn't read the wideband readout when it was flickering numbers at mach speed.


i'm gonna get the plx r300, the one under the 600$ unit posted above...it'll do just about everything the r500 will do, you just have to know how to set up all the logging stuff.

[GLHNSLHT2]

Was gonna get a Zeitronix ZT-2 with their new gauge but a buddy found me a new Innovate XD-16 setup for $300. I couldn't pass it up. Nice setup. After getting the wiring done and the sensor calibrated I had the car dialed in in less than 24 hrs using less than 1/4 tank of gas :) I'm very pleased. It was major rich at WOT since I was trying to get the Narrowband to read more than .88v. It pegged the wideband at 9.0:1 :( Took out about 30% of fuel and it's about 11.3-11.8:1 right now. Might tune it just a bit leaner. But the car is way way faster now. Should be back into the 13's. Haven't been since I started running the 3 bar cal. It's too rich at WOT is why :) Even with the stock 3 bar cal. Oh and I passed emmisions with a 2.5 (emmisions calls for a 2.2 hehe) +40's, ported exhaust manny, S60 turbo and 3" straight pipe out the side. And better than I have since I've owned the car on all the other 2 bar setups. Any wideband's rule and with Dcal it's a snap to tune. Just get the a/f right and control detonation with the spark curve :) Innovate has their LC-1 setup for 289 with a generic gauge. And you can find the XD-16 setup like I have on Ebay for $317+shipping. I'll be ditching the stock O2 sensor in all my cars for one of these setups. Makes tuning a snap and the gauge is very nice.

[Aries_Turbo]

tech edge rules!

Brian

[cordes]

i had a plx m300 in my car and it was almost useless....i wouldn't get that one if I were you...it's almost impossible to get any readings when the a/f it changing. without logging there is no real point. The only time you can see what's going on is once boost settles and you are at WOT, most of the time I've blown gaskets from detonation has been 5 or 6 # under max, where you can't read the a/f b/c it's changing too rapidly. WOT/max boost fuel would be 11.8 and just underneath that, around 20# it'd dip to 13.0 for a split second, just enough to start eroding the head gasket...about 15 pulls later it'd blow. didn't figure this out for a while b/c I couldn't read the wideband readout when it was flickering numbers at mach speed.


i'm gonna get the plx r300, the one under the 600$ unit posted above...it'll do just about everything the r500 will do, you just have to know how to set up all the logging stuff.

The M300 has a wideband output that you could use to datalog.

[t3rse]

for a little more money you don't need to drive around with your laptop to log though...and you still need the adapter thing, and at that point what is the point in having a gauge at all?

[MiniMopar]

I've been running the TE kit for a couple of years (see the thread linked by altered). It works great and the datalogging facility is pretty slick.