36-1 wheel weld to the crank service. Gathering interest.

[tryingbe]

I ran it by cordes, he says it's ok to post here.

I had my friend using water jet to cut out a 36-1 wheel and weld it to my crank pulley.
My friend says he'd be interested in making more of the 36-1 wheel ring if there is a market for it.

36-1 wheel ring, $40 + shipping. No other service offered.
Used it on my car with the red body crank sensor. https://www.diyautotune.com/product/hall-effect-threaded-body-crankshaft-position-sensor/


You'll need to fully welded to your crank AND have it balanced.
You'll also need to make your own crank sensor bracket.

This is what you'll be receiving. For 8 valve common block pulley.
http://www.thelostartof.net/tryingbe/forsale/36-1ring.jpg

Spot welded to the crank
http://thelostartof.net/tryingbe/dodge/omniproject/2017/microsquirt/36-1crank.jpg

Fully welded and zero balanced.
http://www.thelostartof.net/tryingbe/dodge/omniproject/2017/crankpulley/IMG_20171007_062550926.jpg
http://www.thelostartof.net/tryingbe/dodge/omniproject/2017/crankpulley/IMG_20171007_062618670.jpg

[iangoround]

I'm interested. I'd have to find a spare crank pulley though. Will it fit with the AC belt groove too?

[tryingbe]

My pulley above is a common block pulley with a/c.

[karlak]

If you said TIII I would be in.

[zin]

If you said TIII I would be in.

I can certainly understand the desire on this one. Gets rid of the neigh impossible to find new OEM crank sensor... Though I wonder if the accuracy would be materially affected by the diameter being shrunk down so much... Also, is the stock TIII a 36-1 wheel?...

Sounds like it is a possibility, though whoever wanted to do it would have to be the guinea pig, and accept the risks of ruined parts and wasted $$ in order to getter'done.

Mike

[tryingbe]

If you said TIII I would be in.

I don't have a TIII car, but judging from this picture, it looks to be difficult to mount the crank sensor.


http://www.allpar.com/photos/mopar/turbo-fours/turbo-III.jpg

[tryingbe]

http://www.thelostartof.net/tryingbe/dodge/omniproject/2017/36-1/IMG_20170811_162326864.jpg

Put a layer of primer and paint on mine.

[Force Fed Mopar]

I don't have a TIII car, but judging from this picture, it looks to be difficult to mount the crank sensor.


http://www.allpar.com/photos/mopar/turbo-fours/turbo-III.jpg

The 2.5 TIII I swapped into my Lebaron had a 36-1 wheel bolted to the front using a spacer and the crank pulley bolts. There was a custom made aluminum bracket that bolted to the back of the engine under the PS pump that mounted the sensor.

[zin]

Is it me, or is the sensor at an angle to the teeth of the wheel? If so, was there a reason? All the other crank wheel setups I've seen don't do that. ..

Mike

[Force Fed Mopar]

It the pic I posted the wheel is unbolted. When installed it was positioned correctly.

[tryingbe]

http://www.thelostartof.net/tryingbe/dodge/omniproject/2017/crankdone.jpg

[tryingbe]

If anyone is interested, my friend can supply only the 36-1 wheel ring for you to weld on.

[Aries_Turbo]

how much is just the wheel?

Brian

[tryingbe]

how much is just the wheel?

Brian

$40 + shipping.

[karlak]

Are you still offering the full service?

[Aries_Turbo]

$40 + shipping.

is this wheel the one that is trimmed to fit the crank pulley? not the completely filled in wheel like in your build thread that you used to mark where the missing tooth should go?

thanks

Brian

[tryingbe]

Are you still offering the full service?

No, we currently offer just the 36-1 wheel ring.

Since you will have to make a crank sensor bracket as well by welding, it's better to pay for welding once than twice.

I used the bracket between the alternator bracket and engine mount and welded some 1/4 inch plate (you don't want the bracket to vibrate) to make my crank sensor bracket.

http://www.thelostartof.net/tryingbe/dodge/omniproject/2017/microsquirt/bracket%20and%20whee.jpg

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is this wheel the one that is trimmed to fit the crank pulley? not the completely filled in wheel like in your build thread that you used to mark where the missing tooth should go?

thanks

Brian


$40 is for the 36-1 wheel ring as seen in the first picture.

I still have the full wheel if you want it, $20 + shipping for that.

[Warren Stramer]

Nice piece! good to see people doing these projects, so don't take this wrong but, I built a trigger wheel almost exactly like yours and it worked very well till the tack welds broke during a race; engine died, wheel wrecked the mag pick-up and some other parts, and went flying around in the engine compartment. (The tone ring will grow with rpm enough to break the welds)
I had to redo it, but welded it around the full circumference and no more problems, till four yeas later when it broke the nose off my crankshaft. I failed to have it properly balanced.
I am in no way trying to discourage you; just trying to help your project be more successful. Learn from my mistakes.

[tryingbe]

Warren, your inputs are always welcome!! I talked to my welder, he said he was afraid of wrapping the wheel tooth, so that's why he didn't fully weld the wheel to the crank, but I'll be visiting him shortly to fully weld it then I can get it balanced.

Thank you for your valuable inputs!

[Warren Stramer]

Yes your welder is right about warping, I had to chuck my pulley/wheel assembly in the lathe after I welded it to true it up, But ,if you weld a bead, let it cool, then weld a bead 180 degrees opposite and let it cool, and take your time it might not warp. But, trust me, if you don't weld it completely around the circumference it will eventually fail.

[turboshelbys]

Wish I would have taken pictures when I had mine done. I used a 60-2 wheel, had the back of my crank pulley milled down to the thickness of the wheel. Then had the wheel drilled out to the 5 bolt pattern and tested for run-out. No welding or balancing needed.:eyebrows: It also keeps the integrity of the wheel, and no welding keeps the wheel nice and straight.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=61581&stc=1
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=61582&stc=1

[tryingbe]

Yes your welder is right about warping, I had to chuck my pulley/wheel assembly in the lathe after I welded it to true it up, But ,if you weld a bead, let it cool, then weld a bead 180 degrees opposite and let it cool, and take your time it might not warp. But, trust me, if you don't weld it completely around the circumference it will eventually fail.

Fully welded and balanced.

:)

http://www.thelostartof.net/tryingbe/dodge/omniproject/2017/crankpulley/IMG_20171007_062550926.jpg

http://www.thelostartof.net/tryingbe/dodge/omniproject/2017/crankpulley/IMG_20171007_062618670.jpg

[wheming]

I'm interested, if you are still taking a count.

[tryingbe]

I'm interested, if you are still taking a count.

Are you just "interested" or are you ready to buy the ring? Total with shipping is around $52-$54. I just sold the two ring my friend has, he'll need a couple of days to make more.

[turboshelbys]

Are you just "interested" or are you ready to buy the ring? Total with shipping is around $52-$54. I just sold the two ring my friend has, he'll need a couple of days to make more.Wow that's a lot cheaper than what I paid to have mine milled down...

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[tryingbe]

Wow that's a lot cheaper than what I paid to have mine milled down...

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http://www.thelostartof.net/tryingbe/forsale/36-1ring.jpg

This is what the customer will be getting. Customer will be welding the ring to a 8 valve common block crank pulley, balancing the pulley, and design/making the crank sensor bracket.

[turboshelbys]

http://www.thelostartof.net/tryingbe/forsale/36-1ring.jpg

This is what the customer will be getting. Customer will be welding the ring to a 8 valve common block crank pulley, balancing the pulley, and design/making the crank sensor bracket.My bad I thought that was all loaded up and ready to go

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[wheming]

Are you just "interested" or are you ready to buy the ring? Total with shipping is around $52-$54. I just sold the two ring my friend has, he'll need a couple of days to make more.

Yes my interest was enough to buy. ;)
Let me know when you have another batch. I think i still have you paypal info from prior purchases.

[tryingbe]

Second set of 6 all sold, total of 9 sold. I can get my friend to start another group buy if three is interest for 10+. It is expensive to get time on a water jet machine.

[stereo]

I'm interested in 1, possibly 2.

[rixsgto]

are these still available?

[tryingbe]

are these still available?

No, and no plan of making more.

Sorry.

[Aries_Turbo]

Do you have a cad drawing in case some others wanna take a stab at it?

Brian

[boostbus]

If anyone takes up making a couple, i am in immediate need, paypal ready, $70 or best arrangement

[wheming]

If anyone takes up making a couple, i am in immediate need, paypal ready, $70 or best arrangementKeep a eye out on T-M and/or the club FB group.
There may be a option soon for a 36-1 wheel mounting adapter.




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[canon1753]

[QUOTE=wheming;1157712]Keep a eye out on T-M and/or the club FB group.
There may be an option soon for a 36-1 wheel mounting adapter.


Anything new on this front? Going to mpfi on my carbed Turismo with Microsquirt. Unless something better has come along.

Got a turbo 1 intake and mpfi from an 87 Daytona


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[wheming]

[QUOTE=wheming;1157712]Keep a eye out on T-M and/or the club FB group.
There may be an option soon for a 36-1 wheel mounting adapter.


Anything new on this front? Going to mpfi on my carbed Turismo with Microsquirt. Unless something better has come along.

Got a turbo 1 intake and mpfi from an 87 Daytona


- - - Updated - - -Yes, they are available. I am currently still waiting on an order of SloweSpeed brackets, but I have the crank adapters.

I would prefer to wait until I have received those brackets before I accept anyone's money. But you can find info here.
If you only want the crank adapter, I could send you an invoice for just that. PM me.

https://sites.google.com/view/wheming

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[motomick76]

I am currently still waiting on an order of SloweSpeed brackets, but I have the crank adapters.



Wayne,

I wanted to get back with you on our previous discussion, any idea on lead time on Slowspeed bracket?

If possible, put me on the waiting list for a complete kit.

Thanks again!

Also, Congrats on your run the other weekend! Simply amazing getting these machines in the 11's!

[wheming]

Wayne,

I wanted to get back with you on our previous discussion, any idea on lead time on Slowspeed bracket?

If possible, put me on the waiting list for a complete kit.

Thanks again!

Also, Congrats on your run the other weekend! Simply amazing getting these machines in the 11's!

Hi Mike.
I'm trying to get an update on the lead time for the remaining brackets.

And that was Nick (loudexploder) that broke the van record over the weekend. I had broke it just 20 days previously. But now Nick is Top Van 🥇. It is incredible to think the 2 fastest vans are in the 11.6's, until someone pushes it out further!


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[canon1753]

Hi Mike.
I'm trying to get an update on the lead time for the remaining brackets.

And that was Nick (loudexploder) that broke the van record over the weekend. I had broke it just 20 days previously. But now Nick is Top Van 🥇. It is incredible to think the 2 fastest vans are in the 11.6's, until someone pushes it out further!


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‘Dumb question- is there an 87 4 bolt crank pulley solution available?

[wheming]

‘Dumb question- is there an 87 4 bolt crank pulley solution available?It's not a dumb question. But the adapters I have are all for 5 bolt common block.
I don't know of any 4 bolt ones. Reeves Racing has/had some adapters, but I'm not sure if he has any 4 bolt ones.

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[wheming]

I have now received the remaining SloweSpeed Crank Trigger brackets! So I am getting the remaining paid orders ready to ship at long last!
I am just missing some fasteners from these brackets and then they'll go out.

Anyone who was waiting for this next batch of brackets to be delivered, I do have some packages left if you want.
If you only want the wheel adapter, I could do that too.
Just PM me.