Motor mount for SRT4 swap

[rdnoel86]

Well it is time to get the project rolling. I'm putting an SRT4 into a Charger body. I know this swap has been done dozens of times, but my passenger frame mount is a little different then a stock L-body. I'm wondering if I could almost use a stock SRT4 style mount. Any thoughts or suggestions?? Thanx!

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=56197&stc=1http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=56198&stc=1
http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=JN.UIJTIzP0VWRNpsowdQsTlg&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=JN.ssEa8GR1/VaxZ38pz2cFvA&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0




http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=56196&stc=1

[contraption22]

I am not sure how the one pictured would work. That is more of the fore-aft torque limiter

The OE passenger side mount, the one that actually holds the weight of the engine, for the 2nd gen Neons and SRT-4 actually bolts inside the frame rail.


https://w05.dealerconnect.chrysler.com/service/mds2002/serviceInfo/en_US/808e142a.gif

[rdnoel86]

Yep, I'm just trying to figure an easy way to fab something to use a stock Neon mount.... I'm not great at welding up something from scratch...I may have to find someone to make something that works, but I'm just looking for any suggestions on how to tackle it....thanx!






I am not sure how the one pictured would work. That is more of the fore-aft torque limiter

The OE passenger side mount, the one that actually holds the weight of the engine, for the 2nd gen Neons and SRT-4 actually bolts inside the frame rail.


https://w05.dealerconnect.chrysler.com/service/mds2002/serviceInfo/en_US/808e142a.gif

[fixit]

Do you happen to have the measurements from reference points to line up the center line of the crank
turbogod sells that parts on ebay if you want to use the stock location - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Engine-mount-dodge-omni-charger-rampage-2-4-turbo-srt4-srt-4-shelby-body-motor-/171399021526
I'm doing a srt4 swap into an omni and was thinking of using the center mount and boxing around the frame to support.. lower torque arm. trans mount, and building on the the k-frame (not using the upper torque arm) -- all filled with 3m window weld
http://i.fixya.net/uploads/images/87745f3.jpg

[contraption22]

Turbogod's mount works well as-is.

[fixit]

Turbogod's mount works well as-is.

yup.. the ebay link it to his product

[rdnoel86]

I don't have the measurements needed at this time. I have looked at Turbogod's mount, but I don't believe it will bolt up to my frame. Unless I'm missing something......I will still have to fab up a piece for the frame mount.....

[83scamp]

I don't have the measurements needed at this time. I have looked at Turbogod's mount, but I don't believe it will bolt up to my frame. Unless I'm missing something......I will still have to fab up a piece for the frame mount.....


Yes you will. Somebody has already done some custom work to your car. That is not a stock passenger side mount. They did something custom before. You would probably be better off putting that side back to stock before moving forward. Unless your using some kind of solid mount, the mount you have pivots the wrong way anyways.

[A.J.]

You're probably better off getting the engine bracket off of a 2.4 Stratus like some of us have done and build a mount using that. Trying to use the factory Neon mount is going to be difficult.

[rdnoel86]

If I remember correctly....the car had a prototype or experimental motor in it. I wish I could track it down, but from what I understand it is in pieces and when to different individuals.



Yes you will. Somebody has already done some custom work to your car. That is not a stock passenger side mount. They did something custom before. You would probably be better off putting that side back to stock before moving forward. Unless your using some kind of solid mount, the mount you have pivots the wrong way anyways.

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I was actually thinking that today...going the Stratus route...thanx!



You're probably better off getting the engine bracket off of a 2.4 Stratus like some of us have done and build a mount using that. Trying to use the factory Neon mount is going to be difficult.

[rdnoel86]

After more research I decided to go this direction....I'm making my own mount (with some help) off the DCR design, like this:http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wCEAAkGBxQTEhUUExQVFhQXGBwUFxcXFxcXFxccFxcWGBgYFR cYHCggGBolHRcVITEhJSkrLi4uFx8zODQsNygtLisBCgoKDg0O GhAQGCwcHBwsLCwsLCwsLCwsLCwsLCwsLCwsLCwsLCwsLCwsLC s3LCw3LCwsNywsLCw3LCw3KyssK//AABEIAOAA4QMBIgACEQEDEQH/xAAcAAACAgMBAQAAAAAAAAAAAAADBAIFAAEGBwj/xABFEAABAwIDBAYGBwYFBAMAAAABAAIRAyEEEjEFQVFhEyJxgZ GhBjKxwdHwFEJSYpLS4RUjM0Ny8VOCk9Pic6Kjsgdjg//EABgBAQEBAQEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEAAgME/8QAIREBAQEAAgICAwEBAAAAAAAAAAERAhIhMQNhE0FRMiL/2gAMAwEAAhEDEQA/AODruEwN1ieJ3/PJaatU43iR2wmqGFLmucy4YMztxaMzWyR2uAtxXaOIHAASTYBY/MDB3HTd5WRadQtBgCTbNvAvYHcoAd6C2TZOYY3PalaVMvByAkt a5zh9kNEknkEeibnuXTg58/JwFEzILSphbchmngp5kFhWFytWDlywFLPqwJP69yr8RtAg8xaN w7eJ e00ziuCVgelcJig8cxqOH6I2ZVowcP9qiXIRKXxONDOZ4fHgLq OHc3ctZlV4baBcZPePePh8l8OtxGqDghKgStOKgXKWNOd8 9CK25yG4q04Xq3cO34lHLYCUfVDXAkEgHdutE zxTlNzXCx7jqNdQvP8n np 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I'm not using the power steering or a/c so this will work well and save some weight. For the frame mount I'm ordering one of these and mounting on the frame like fixit suggested:https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ-HQKVxK80yGAwySqcXiXvZqsQuZQWmr2cJF_nSpf-ldxtoLq3tAhttps://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS9wEblj8ps8r3Potfss_fadg_u1AYRK 9PzYy7d5cqQdSPNZ7TB
Once lined up properly, I can use the spacers to center the engine correctly. Thanx for the input!












Do you happen to have the measurements from reference points to line up the center line of the crank
turbogod sells that parts on ebay if you want to use the stock location - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Engine-mount-dodge-omni-charger-rampage-2-4-turbo-srt4-srt-4-shelby-body-motor-/171399021526
I'm doing a srt4 swap into an omni and was thinking of using the center mount and boxing around the frame to support.. lower torque arm. trans mount, and building on the the k-frame (not using the upper torque arm) -- all filled with 3m window weld
http://i.fixya.net/uploads/images/87745f3.jpg

[contraption22]

If you're looking for a starting point to make your own, you might as well start with an aluminum mount from a 1st gen Neon. No need to waste money on the three most overpriced letters in the FWD Chrysler world: "DCR"

[jonnymopar]

You're probably better off getting the engine bracket off of a 2.4 Stratus like some of us have done and build a mount using that. Trying to use the factory Neon mount is going to be difficult.

If I remember correctly, going this method requires spacers to center the engine except on an L-body. It would be worth giving it a shot. I have one sitting in my toolbox if you want to use it for fitment.

[rdnoel86]

Agreed......I wouldn't pay 250.00 for that..


If you're looking for a starting point to make your own, you might as well start with an aluminum mount from a 1st gen Neon. No need to waste money on the three most overpriced letters in the FWD Chrysler world: "DCR"

[rdnoel86]

Did you want to sell it?



If I remember correctly, going this method requires spacers to center the engine except on an L-body. It would be worth giving it a shot. I have one sitting in my toolbox if you want to use it for fitment.

[jonnymopar]

PM'd.

[fixit]

Hey Jonny, could you post a few pictures with a ruler in frame for reference..


If I remember correctly, going this method requires spacers to center the engine except on an L-body. It would be worth giving it a shot. I have one sitting in my toolbox if you want to use it for fitment.

[fixit]

I found this link very helpful, includes a bunch of measurements too
http://www.turbododge.com/forums/f11/f48/196537-2-4-turbo-swap-old-school.html

[rdnoel86]

Thanx!....I missed this thread over there...


I found this link very helpful, includes a bunch of measurements too
http://www.turbododge.com/forums/f11/f48/196537-2-4-turbo-swap-old-school.html

[rdnoel86]

To make a very long story short....the original mounts from the car have come into my possession... :) . I'm not sure I can use any of them but at least it gives me a starting point.

Top is the passenger side mount, bottom is the trans mount...
EDIT...the bottom is actually a GM strut mount according to the part number on it...so someone was being creative..
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=56614&stc=1http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=56615&stc=1