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bfarroo
02-28-2015, 06:51 PM
I'm getting some cables sent out to push-pull.com to get duplicated and asked if I could get a group buy price with a large enough order. I haven't heard anything back on a group buy rate yet. It's currently estimated at $160 per cable. Hopefully they can do a bit better on a larger order, either way I'll be getting a set for my car. This is just a feeler to gauge interest. Let me know if you'd be in for sure or a maybe and when I have a more concrete price for a group buy I'll post it up. Right now you would be looking at 320 plus shipping for the set. The cables I have here have the ball and socket arrangement on 3 ends and a heim style on the 4th. I'm guessing they used the same cables on all the cars but who knows. I can post up some pictures of the cables I'm sending if that would help.

Johnny
02-28-2015, 09:05 PM
Thought they might be the same, but maybe not. Some day I will need it, so might just as need say yes now.

Dr. Johny Dodge
02-28-2015, 09:22 PM
cables for different models are diff lengths
even same model types can have diff length cables in differing build years

I thought I read push / pull wanted everyone to send their own cables individually to have sets made to match the buyer's application

bfarroo
02-28-2015, 10:37 PM
My set for my Daytona were made from their measurement and I didn't have to send any in. I'm just worried about the cables being different on different cars. I wouldn't think they would have changed something like a shift cable. The cable would be routed the same way on all the cars and the base design of the cars are the same between roadster, targa, and hard top. They look like a standard dodge cable. I'll have to dig some Daytona 555 cables out to compare to these.

knownenemy
03-01-2015, 01:18 AM
This is an interesting idea, but I believe more information is needed.
I remember the push-pull cables, and they are just.....UN-BE-LEEV-ABLE!

I would surely be in on a group buy; depending on what exactly we would be ordering.

In the original thread,
the cables that were ordered were heim joints throughout.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?61507-Custom-SS-Hiem-jointed-shifter-cables&highlight=push-pull

If that is the case with the cables being considered here, I'm IN. :)

Johnny
03-01-2015, 02:44 AM
Benji....let's see your comparison...would be good to know.

bfarroo
03-01-2015, 11:51 AM
Here are the Daytona cables versus the consulier cables. The ends look exactly the same, the Consulier cables are just longer. Daytona cables are on top. I was planning on the ball and socket type connector so they are a direct swap. I'll have to read through the push-pull cable thread and see what those that went with all heim ends used to secure them. I'd bet they could install either end depending on what you would want.
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/1002/medium/IMG_1391.JPG
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/1002/medium/IMG_1392.JPG
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/1002/medium/IMG_1393.JPG

Johnny
03-01-2015, 12:06 PM
As I expected, longer. Just like our throttle cable, the same except longer.

polopharm
03-01-2015, 12:32 PM
I assume you guys are replacing cables to fix sloppy shifting? Or what ? Mine feels good except it's a bit notchy going into first. And a little bit of play finding 5th. Or is there something else?

bfarroo
03-01-2015, 03:37 PM
I actually don't have cables for my car. The set I have are on loan from Matt (player1up). I have a set for the 568 in my Daytona and they are very nice and an upgrade to even a set with poly bushings. I want to get my car running and driving this summer and then take it apart for body work next winter.

spirit1991
03-01-2015, 03:40 PM
Call me crazy but I don't like the push pull cables. They have a certain amount of free play inside the cable itself. While that's fine on the selector cable I find it very annoying on the crossover cable. I too had the set made from Carrols specs. Maybe I've missed something but I can't get rid of the slop internal to the cable. It's a shame because I like the quality and strength of them.

iTurbo
03-01-2015, 04:22 PM
I have bought two sets of A568 cables for Spirit R/T's from push-pull.com. I do remember they wanted me to send the stock cables so that they could be duplicated as close as possible. I sent them a set of cables from one of my '91 Spirit R/Ts for a pair of cables to be make for two '91 Spirit R/T's.

I installed the first set and it's been doing great in the first car (my old red R/T). I was very happy with the shifter feel. The heim joints eliminate the need for a bushing and slip over the stock shifter 'studs' on the transaxle and shifter just fine. I believe we used an 'E' clip to secure the helm joint to the 'studs' on the shifter base and transaxle sides.

I'm definitely looking forward to running the other set I bought on my other Spirit R/T. They are much better than stock cables and eliminate a lot of the squishy feel of stock cables and worn out shifter bushings.

player1up
03-04-2015, 12:22 PM
I assume you guys are replacing cables to fix sloppy shifting? Or what ? Mine feels good except it's a bit notchy going into first. And a little bit of play finding 5th. Or is there something else?
There are 2 issues reported with the stock cables.
1. They break at the shifter or pop off under extreme conditions.
2. They break, pop off, get sloppy at the trans

Between the heim joints and short throw shifter, the shifting is where it needs to be for these cars. The trans is still a little slow as far as getting it into gear, but from what I've read it's a common complaint with the a555 and I've got some other things to work on so that "problem" can wait for now.
I highly recommend a short throw shifter.

mcsvt
03-05-2015, 02:22 PM
I have been thinking about getting some of the push pull cables, count me in for a group buy if you hear anything. Would be looking for l-body and p-body.

Rrider
03-05-2015, 02:26 PM
I'm in for a GTP set. Maybe a van set if we're talking a multi chassis group buy.

bfarroo
03-06-2015, 12:14 AM
I talked with David at Push-Pull and it doesn't sound like they will do any sort of group buy unless we can get 25-50 orders. I'm guessing that won't happen any time soon. I'm going to send in my cables and have them look them over and verify pricing. I may try to remove one of the stock balls to send with. The current estimate is 160 ea so 320 for the set. Definitely more expensive than the last set I got for the daytona. I'll keep everyone in the loop as to when he receives my cables and what we decide for the ends. I'm guessing that if he has the cables there he can do them either way and if you want a set you can contact him and discuss what you want and can get a set made without having to remove yours. I like the idea of keeping them completely stock as I've never had the 555 cables pop off but if the heim can be made to fit easily it may be a more robust way to go.

bfarroo
04-03-2015, 04:03 PM
David has my cables and is checking what he has for ball ends that will fit the stock ball and socket type connector. I haven't heard back on what he's found yet but if anyone wants to get a set of cables made you could contact him at info@push-pull.com or Phone # 530-893-4060. He said he could also do standard rod ends no problem. I'm not sure how that would fit on the stock shifter ball ends but it is an option if you want.

polopharm
04-03-2015, 10:49 PM
Let us know about pricing

bfarroo
04-06-2015, 07:10 PM
Will do when I hear back.

bfarroo
06-11-2015, 07:34 PM
Pricing ended up at 360 I think for the set. 200 for the longer cable and 160 for the shorter. The length is what caused the price increase. They should be shipping out in the next few days. They don't keep any sort of blueprints so you'll have to send in a set to get a copy made. They seem to be extremely worried about cables from car to car not matching. I'll post up some picks when they come in.

DaveSkrab
06-11-2015, 09:29 PM
Excellent news!

bfarroo
06-18-2015, 10:03 PM
Got the cables in today, they look good. It will probably take until after SDAC to get them on the car to test fit so we'll see how the shift feels then.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=3185&pictureid=51438

polopharm
12-05-2017, 09:29 PM
Have you had a chance to mount your cables?
I have a NOS set I found in a container, but would like a spare because.....

Was at the track today, end of a long high speed straight and went to down shift prior to turn but could not shift , at all. No neutral, nothing.
Limped off track in 4th gear , in paddock discovered that my cable was toast literally.
The longer cable at the rear of tranny that runs across to passenger side was cooked.
In my car it was routed between the block and the header.
It had cooked off all the plastic and when I tried to shift it was just mushrooming the cable and not moving the linkage at all.

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player1up
12-06-2017, 09:41 AM
The rear cable on my car has some sort of heat sleeve around it.

polopharm
12-06-2017, 12:42 PM
Mine did too! But just cooked that too. I will use some of that aircraft orange heat sleeve stuff. To be fair i assune these cables are the original ones, so long past life expectancy.

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player1up
12-06-2017, 12:52 PM
I was afraid of that. I've been worried about cooking that cable. ( especially since Benji has my spare ;) )

polopharm
12-07-2017, 06:59 PM
Pictures were difficult as car is still in trailer. But you can get the idea.
First pictures shows proximity to exhaust ,
2nd shows close up of the cable. When I would try and shift it would collapse on itself.
New cables going on this weekend. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171207/0510719e9536d8029f4de26c42370593.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171207/ce3466f7f3a03a38b9515d6e633e560a.jpg

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bfarroo
12-07-2017, 10:25 PM
I was afraid of that. I've been worried about cooking that cable. ( especially since Benji has my spare ;) )

Yeah, If you need those back any time soon just let me know. I thought I had sent them back until I was organizing car parts in my basement last month and found them. I'd like to keep them until I get the car running. Everything with the new cables looks good so I don't see having any issues but it would be nice to have a set to compare if things don't work correctly.

bfarroo
12-07-2017, 10:31 PM
Have you had a chance to mount your cables?
I have a NOS set I found in a container, but would like a spare because.....

Was at the track today, end of a long high speed straight and went to down shift prior to turn but could not shift , at all. No neutral, nothing.
Limped off track in 4th gear , in paddock discovered that my cable was toast literally.
The longer cable at the rear of tranny that runs across to passenger side was cooked.
In my car it was routed between the block and the header.
It had cooked off all the plastic and when I tried to shift it was just mushrooming the cable and not moving the linkage at all.

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I have installed my cables. Everything seems to fit good and feels good shifting through the gears.
I have a set in my orange daytona and like them a lot.

player1up
12-11-2017, 03:53 PM
yeah, no worries, I don't "need" them unless one breaks. I've converted to rod ends on my cables so unless a weld breaks I should be ok.
I put almost 400 miles on the car yesterday ( 6-7 hrs in one day ) and other than the noise from the straight pipe at hwy speeds, the car performed flawlessly.

polopharm
12-11-2017, 10:09 PM
Wow. Where did you go?
Do you have HVAC/ defrost etc?

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bfarroo
12-12-2017, 12:07 AM
the new cables have the DEI wrap on them

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/photopost/data/1002/medium/DSC03123.JPG

player1up
12-12-2017, 09:26 AM
Wow. Where did you go?
Do you have HVAC/ defrost etc?

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Yes I have A/C and heat. It was super cold so I had the heat on almost the entire time.
There was a road rally starting in Gainsville put on by Drive Florida. Up at 5AM with a brisk drive from Orlando to Gainsville. From there we headed to Crystal River mall. Out through Dunellen. Lunch stop was Yalaha Bakery.
I cut out shortly before lunch because I had to be home by 2 but what a run! Something like 150 cars. A few GTRs, Hellcats, at least one R8 and some crazy guys in an AC cobra ( talk about a cold morning for those guys ). From my math ( including broken chain of cars due to signals and stop signs ) our line of cars was something like 7 miles long!