1988 Daytona Shelby 11 sec full body build thread * picture heavy * [Archive]

2POINT5TURBO

02-12-2015, 12:06 PM

Hi guys thought i would post this here and see what you all think, please feel free to post your thoughts Nickhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/18079992/daytona/1.JPGhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/18079992/daytona/2.JPGhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/18079992/daytona/3.JPGhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/18079992/daytona/4.JPGhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/18079992/daytona/5.JPGhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/18079992/daytona/6.JPGhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/18079992/daytona/7.JPGhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/18079992/daytona/8.JPGhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/18079992/daytona/9.JPGhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/18079992/daytona/10.JPGhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/18079992/daytona/11.JPGhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/18079992/daytona/12.JPGhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/18079992/daytona/13.JPGhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/18079992/daytona/14.JPGhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/18079992/daytona/15.JPGhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/18079992/daytona/16.JPGhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/18079992/daytona/17.JPG

2POINT5TURBO

02-12-2015, 12:11 PM

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2POINT5TURBO

02-12-2015, 12:14 PM

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2POINT5TURBO

02-12-2015, 12:21 PM

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2POINT5TURBO

02-12-2015, 12:25 PM

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85boostbox

02-12-2015, 12:40 PM

:eek: wow!!!

Vigo

02-12-2015, 01:28 PM

Good on you for fixing that thing!

Shadow

02-12-2015, 02:25 PM

Man, that was quite the historical tour. I had somewhat forgotten all that this Daytona has been through!

Gearhead24-7

02-12-2015, 02:59 PM

Damn Dude. Nice work!

2POINT5TURBO

02-12-2015, 05:37 PM

Man, that was quite the historical tour. I had somewhat forgotten all that this Daytona has been through!

its been a good 8 years on this bad boy that is for sure. Cant wait to see you on Saturday i'm pretty pumped about that trans setup. I'll see if I can get a hold of dale tomorrow to grab that extra bit of metal we need for the shifter base, Steph is pretty happy to come see Jackie too.

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Damn Dude. Nice work!

A lot of the props go to Shadow hes been working on this car for over 8 years now. Mad props.

Good on you for fixing that thing!

Thanks I would never give this black beauty up shes part of the family ! haha!

Reaper1

02-13-2015, 04:56 PM

Maybe it's my computer or browser, but I don't see any pictures? :(

Shadow

02-15-2015, 11:55 AM

You should downsize your pics accordingly, the load time is ridiculous! lol

2.216VTurbo

02-15-2015, 09:19 PM

Man, that was quite the historical tour. I had somewhat forgotten all that this Daytona has been through!

It *had* to be a looong time ago, look how much hair you had:lol:

It seems wrong with all the fabrication and custom work you guys did to comment on something as simple as the valve cover but that orange one was smooth as glass:eyebrows: :love: That must have been more than a few coats of hand sanded primer:thumb:

Shadow

02-17-2015, 11:17 AM

It *had* to be a looong time ago, look how much hair you had:lol:

You made me do a double take Bro, I actually though there might be a pic of me with hair in there somewhere! lol (no such luck)

2POINT5TURBO

02-22-2015, 11:47 AM

Sorry about the size of the pictures everyone, i will try to find a program that will mass resize them

clutch, pressure plate and flywheel

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GLHNSLHT2

02-22-2015, 12:02 PM

I like the large pics.

2POINT5TURBO

02-22-2015, 12:30 PM

lol sorry man to many complaints

Shadow

02-22-2015, 01:21 PM

So you Did resize them? Dang, it loads so fast now I thought it was my 24 Gigs of RAM that had this file of permanent standby! lol

2POINT5TURBO

02-22-2015, 09:46 PM

So you Did resize them? Dang, it loads so fast now I thought it was my 24 Gigs of RAM that had this file of permanent standby! lol

Haha well I was thinking of you when I re sized them I actually found an addition to windows that allows you to mass select pictures and re size them. Only problem with this was that it actually creates a duplicate file with the same name, just a smaller image size none the less it was still a big time saver considering there is over 100 pictures !

If anyone would still like to have the original sizes please don't be afraid to ask I just have to make the folder available...see if I can get that done for you later on.

By the way I would like to point out for those of you who are interested in the clutch set up....there is the product number for the clutch, pressure plate and flywheel in those pictures above.

2POINT5TURBO

02-22-2015, 09:54 PM

This is the old modification list there has been some drastic changes since it was put together I will do a proper mod list in the near future.

I am updating the list as we go here.

Engine:
-2.5L
-forged pistons
-eagle forged Steel rods
-removed balance shafts
-new rod bearings
-Head cooling mod to above the #4 cylinder
-solid front mount
-solid bobble strut CUSTOM
-aluminum rad
-mopar performance head gasket copper coated
-high flow oil pump
-windage tray in the oil pan
-head studs

Head:
-mild ported G-head with all the goodies(1mm over sized valve's, ported ect.)
-F4 regrind cam
-high rpm lifters
-adjustable cam gear

Transmission:
-a523 casing and a 1989 a555 guts to make a custom a568 shimmed diff ACT 6 puck clutch, pressure plate and flywheel
-srt4 hurst shifter custom mounted

Turbo:
-Custom mounted Holset HE351 CW
compressor housing cut and re-welded
-modified talon 1g BOV
-4 inch custom swing valve
-3 inch custom exhaust dumps before the middle of the car

Intake:
-custom intake " BMF intake taken to the next level "
-twin front mount intercoolers
-4 inch cold air intake

Electronics:
-AVC-R, BOOST CONTROLLER
-stage 5 computer
-mangnicore sparkplug wires
-rny9 champion spark plugs
-3 bar map sensor possible 4 bar ?
-gauges A/F and BOOST pillar pod

Fuel
-72+ injectors
-walbro 255 fuel pump
-adjustable pressure regulator
-larger fuel lines
-modified fuel rail

Suspension
-mopar struts up front - stock Shelby springs
-monro sensitrac with adjustable air in the rear- stock Shelby springs
-poly urethane bushings all around
-srt4 front tower brace custom mounted over rear suspension

Brakes:
-stock braking system

2POINT5TURBO

07-20-2015, 07:32 PM

Well here is some more update pictures of the intake cam gears etc....

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karlak

07-20-2015, 09:32 PM

Eye candy...........

2.216VTurbo

07-21-2015, 12:55 PM

Always good pics in this thread!:eyebrows: Why the adjustable I shaft Rob?

Shadow

07-21-2015, 01:33 PM

Always good pics in this thread!:eyebrows: Why the adjustable I shaft Rob?

Because I want Infinite timing capability on all of my builds! MooWa.....Ha.....Ha (ha?)

Shadow

07-21-2015, 01:38 PM

rx2mazda

07-21-2015, 01:46 PM

Shadow

07-21-2015, 03:38 PM

What keeps the timing belt from walking? Nice build btw!

Shear Will!!! lol

Which reminds me, how did you do at SDAC, or did you not run your Beast yet? Is it just me, or has this been the quietest SDAC Ever? I don't see any real posted results anywhere. No quick 8, (other than 1 or 2 that ran) No result on any of the faster cars.

What's up with that?

Reaper1

07-21-2015, 03:59 PM

I would like a lightweight I-shaft gear and a lightweight STOCK sized accessory pulley....

Chris W

07-21-2015, 04:23 PM

I would like a lightweight I-shaft gear and a lightweight STOCK sized accessory pulley....

We have a contact who has offered to machine a TU brand of cam/I shaft gears. I am sure pulleys will not be a problem either. Return on investment is minimal when compared to other performance options though. The million dollar question is, "If we build them will they sell?"

Chris-TU

PS- Good seeing you again at SDAC/Carlisle Reaper1.
PSS- Reeves took Quick 8.

thedon809

07-21-2015, 04:38 PM

I would buy a lightweight stock sized crank pulley. Preferably with no a/c or p/s groove. I would buy a lightweight I shaft pulley as well.

knownenemy

07-21-2015, 06:29 PM

Awesome build!!!
I've said it before, and I'll say it again,
"LOVE the domes on the BMF" :eyebrows:

We have a contact who has offered to machine a TU brand of cam/I shaft gears. I am sure pulleys will not be a problem either. Return on investment is minimal when compared to other performance options though. The million dollar question is, "If we build them will they sell?"

Chris-TU

And not to highjack the thread, but I'd surely buy a lightwaeight I-shaft pulley Chis.

GLHNSLHT2

07-21-2015, 07:02 PM

Seriously though, no one makes a light weight I shaft gear (though many have talked about it, Hint Hint) and after seeing the difference the changes I made on the Charger went, this is now what I do on any serious build that's going 400+WHP and wanting to take as much advantage of weight reduction as well as recip mass on the engine.

That's funny to see this as it's what I'm going to do on my engine builds too. I really liked the low recipricating setup in my old 8v 2.5 and hadn't gotten around to doing the t-belt gears yet. Just the UDP, flywheel, valve train at the time. I've been picking up gears as available to do it to all my motors though.

I shaved over 1/2 lb off my timing belt crank pulley :) Lots of weight but not much centrifigul force acting on it, but every bit counts. :)

Shadow

07-21-2015, 07:08 PM

PSS- Reeves took Quick 8.

That is the part I heard lol

Would have been nice to see a complete breakdown though. Yaknow, 1st round, 2nd round ect ect. (like a tree)

Who were the other 7 contestants?

Shadow

07-21-2015, 07:12 PM

Awesome build!!!
I've said it before, and I'll say it again,
"LOVE the domes on the BMF" :eyebrows:

Being a 2.5l and knowing what Nick's goals are for the car, I Really wanted to have double the displacement in the plenum and this is Very close. I think I displace measured it down to 4.9l plenum. Either way, Really happy with how it turned out.

Really too bad you can't buy THIS version of the BMF "off the shelf" :( as it solves So many issues all at once.

2POINT5TURBO

07-21-2015, 07:31 PM

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for posting in the thread and keeping it alive, don't be afraid to hijack the thread so many good things can come from it haha !

I am very pleased with the way the car is turning out and the goal is to ultimately go out and bust an 11 ( high or low ) full body full interior plane jane 8 valve with a 5 speed.

I think things will start slow at about 15-20 psi and we will go from there. I am expecting to see a 13 sec run right off the bat ! haha ! and eventually and most of all GRADUALLY put the car into the 11's. if it takes me three years so be it ! a second a year !

mad thanks to all who have contributed to this build

Shadow and the TD team here in Manitoba.

Shadow

07-21-2015, 07:56 PM

What keeps the timing belt from walking? Nice build btw!

In all seriousness though, the gears are no different than the factory pieces, so I'm not sure what you're referring to, but I can only guess that you're thinking of the earlier cam and I-shaft gears that had the one sided backing to act like a belt guide?

The only guide I am aware of on the round tooth sprockets is the double sided belt tensioner.

rx2mazda

07-21-2015, 09:43 PM

Ahhhhh the TIII tensioner doesn't have that. It's on the i-shaft and exhaust cam gear lol

Shadow

07-21-2015, 09:53 PM

Ahhhhh the TIII tensioner doesn't have that. It's on the i-shaft and exhaust cam gear lol

So you get away from the ol 8v and all you see now is TIII! Dag nab it, what's the world coming to...........

2POINT5TURBO

07-24-2015, 09:09 AM

some more progress

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2POINT5TURBO

08-28-2015, 07:02 PM

Here is the Turbo

He351cw Holset

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the exhaust side

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spooling

08-28-2015, 07:45 PM

Nice downpipe! 4"? Curious where you found the vband ring that meets the turbine housing? Looking good

knownenemy

08-28-2015, 07:46 PM

Now that sure looks familiar.
I have one just like that;
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o208/signsoflife7/GLHS%200896/Header-Turbomock-up6-26-2014_zps71cf8d7e.jpg
Are you going to use the command valve to control boost?
If not, what direction are you going?

2POINT5TURBO

08-28-2015, 11:15 PM

I am going to be using the avcr boost controller

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Shadow

08-29-2015, 11:13 PM

Nice downpipe! 4"? Curious where you found the vband ring that meets the turbine housing? Looking good

Yep 4" all the way to the dump.

Several venders sell the HE351 V-band ring. Bit of a piss off actually as it is used in more than just one application (I'm guessing) so the ID does Not match the HE351 properly. It's like an 1/8" smaller all the way around. Nice to find this out after paying 65.00 US + shipping for it!

Had to open it up a bit..........

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I am going to be using the avcr boost controller

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To control the Holset command valve, so Yes :)

GLHS60

08-29-2015, 11:46 PM

Being a 2.5l and knowing what Nick's goals are for the car, I Really wanted to have double the displacement in the plenum and this is Very close. I think I displace measured it down to 4.9l plenum. Either way, Really happy with how it turned out.

Really too bad you can't buy THIS version of the BMF "off the shelf" :( as it solves So many issues all at once.

I was asking for the same thing but it got justified away.:confused2:

The fact that you made it this way makes me proud!!

Great build Mr 2POINT5TURBO !! :clap:

Thanks
Randy

Shadow

08-30-2015, 11:02 AM

I was asking for the same thing but it got justified away.:confused2:

The fact that you made it this way makes me proud!!

Great build Mr 2POINT5TURBO !! :clap:

Thanks
Randy

Had to, lol I can't stand to let something that close slip through my fingers without even Trying! ;)

The most amazing thing so far is the out of boost response and power. Crisp Crisp, and you'd think you were 2-3lbs into boost the way it effortlessly moves the Daytona. Makes the car feel Light as a feather!

knownenemy

08-30-2015, 02:05 PM

This thread is like seeing into the future! lol
I just LOVE IT!!! Great work guys. :thumb:

2POINT5TURBO

08-31-2015, 07:54 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clRhUuG-R3U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zP3FdBIM8k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtYDezUloG4

knownenemy

08-31-2015, 08:29 PM

GOOD TIMES!!! :thumb:

2.216VTurbo

09-01-2015, 11:47 AM

Sweet:eyebrows: Now how long do we have to wait for a WOT vid?

2POINT5TURBO

09-01-2015, 03:42 PM

5000km break in :)

Shadow

09-01-2015, 11:42 PM

Sweet:eyebrows: Now how long do we have to wait for a WOT vid?

5000km break in :)

I think what Nick meant to say is that the car is driving around "untuned" for WOT, but part throttle is fine.

We won't know what the lowest boost is going to be until it gets stepped on and that won't happen for a few more km's (not quite 5000, But it could be 5000 IF Nick Really wants it to be ;))

I think some confusion between when to switch to full synthetic got mixed up in there somewhere.

Still needs a catch can and there are a few other odds and ends that need doing and if everything checks out when there is nothing left to do, then it will be time to tune WOT :)

spooling

09-02-2015, 12:02 AM

I want that car!! Exhaust plans after the DP, or is that it?

GLHS60

09-02-2015, 01:37 AM

Is it going to have an intercooled crank case breather system like on the Pressure Ratio Kings car??

Thanks
Randy

Shadow

09-02-2015, 11:10 AM

I want that car!! Exhaust plans after the DP, or is that it?

If Nick had his way, I think the 4" dump would be it lol, but Nick can chime in and correct me if I'm wrong. ;)

Is it going to have an intercooled crank case breather system like on the Pressure Ratio Kings car??

Thanks
Randy

Something Very similar. :nod:

2.216VTurbo

09-02-2015, 11:28 AM

Is it going to have an intercooled crank case breather system like on the Pressure Ratio Kings car??

Thanks
Randy

Yeah but this one will have the infinitely adjustable crankcase timing option;)

Shadow

09-02-2015, 02:15 PM

Yeah but this one will have the infinitely adjustable crankcase timing option;)

Dang! Again! How many times do I have to tell you................It's a Secret :blah:

2POINT5TURBO

09-02-2015, 02:44 PM

Haha oh you guys !, rob seems to have given me the best of both worlds a complete silent exhaust system with the option of unbolting and having an open downpipe for the track lol

2POINT5TURBO

09-16-2015, 09:24 AM

Idle with the f4 cam

http://youtu.be/6zWlnNZoQ5k

Shadow

09-16-2015, 10:24 AM

2POINT5TURBO

09-16-2015, 10:50 AM

Should have gone a little longer and walked around to the driver side and showed the vac @ idle. What's your vac, like 17-18"? I know the Charger is 16", but the 2.5's are going to produce a little more.

On a cold day like this morning for instance, starting the car letting it come to operating temp for 7 min I had about 15 vac. but once driving it will hover between 17-19 vac. I am so impressed with this motor, I'll take another video today after I put the power steering belt on.

doing some very mild tuning on the car and seeing that 21 psi, knowing that the car cant be street driven on that amount of boost is just insane. Literally you need drag radials to have any sort of traction, thanks for helping me tune the car and giving me amazing pointers yesterday!. I swear sometimes I have to have you there to slow me down and bring me back to reality when it comes to the car and I know this car is going to blow people's minds I hope everyone is a patient as I have come to be with seeing the results.

PS. Shadow is a human Data logger! :lol:

cj011

09-16-2015, 11:28 AM

Is it going to have an intercooled crank case breather system like on the Pressure Ratio Kings car??

Thanks
Randy

Anymore info on this setup by chance?

Shadow

09-16-2015, 02:12 PM

Anymore info on this setup by chance?

Same as the Charger, but running one 3/4" ID hose instead of the hose stepping larger like the Charger does to the breather box. If you look closely at Nick's video you can see the two fittings on the front of the V/C and the hose going to the catch-can.

Simple as that, just vented to atmosphere. :amen:

GLHNSLHT2

09-16-2015, 07:23 PM

1st:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zWlnNZoQ5k&feature=youtu.be

2nd, love how you can hear the lightweight recipricating weight going on in just the way the motor sounds.

2POINT5TURBO

09-16-2015, 08:12 PM

Anther video with the vac gauge

http://youtu.be/tel5-mb7ndA

a few 15 psi short pulls half throttle I can't go over 5,500 rpm the tires just let loose and that F4 cam just kicks in. Never thought I would see this 2.5 make power into the 6,000's !!

cj011

09-18-2015, 12:03 AM

Same as the Charger, but running one 3/4" ID hose instead of the hose stepping larger like the Charger does to the breather box. If you look closely at Nick's video you can see the two fittings on the front of the V/C and the hose going to the catch-can.

Simple as that, just vented to atmosphere. :amen:

Thanks for replying so quick.

2POINT5TURBO

09-18-2015, 08:00 PM

Decided to take the car to the speed way for a lap did a few short third gear pulls enjoy.

http://youtu.be/HW2HxqVRusA

2.216VTurbo

09-18-2015, 08:38 PM

Nice! Love how fast the boost wants to go to 20:eyebrows:

2POINT5TURBO

09-18-2015, 09:47 PM

Nice! Love how fast the boost wants to go to 20:eyebrows:

As as far as I know this is right off the waste gate so this is the laziest possible boost available, hopefully the avcr boost controller will make a world of difference in 1rst and 2cond gear as there is no traction at all lol

Shadow

09-19-2015, 11:09 AM

It's Hilarious that the stock boost gauge is still in there! Just for the passengers and audience to gawk at! lol

You are correct. the turbo is seeing Full boost signal to the W/G right now, so this is the laziest lowest boost possible. Through the 4" dump full spool 20+psi is about 4000rpm running Fat to keep it safe till we dial in the tune.

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Although Nick is keeping it to 15psi on pump 91 because we were seeing some knock @ 21psi. That's why the part throttle PUZZY footing around..............Right Nick?!

2POINT5TURBO

09-19-2015, 11:52 AM

2POINT5TURBO

09-20-2015, 11:54 PM

some turbo dodge porn courtesy of my girlfriend LOL :eyebrows:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18079992/daytona/147.JPG

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18079992/daytona/148.JPG

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18079992/daytona/149.JPG

Turbulence

09-21-2015, 01:39 AM

Looking good Nick!

Martin

2POINT5TURBO

09-21-2015, 09:47 AM

Looking good Nick!

Martin

Thanks Martin it's been 6 years in the making from 40 trim to holset lol believe me there is still much work to do, but it just shows you the amount of work Rob goes threw to give one of these car a new lease on life.

2.216VTurbo

09-21-2015, 11:40 AM

Your girlfriend has a real eye for shooting porn. Wait, what?;) Nice shots with great lighting and bnackrounds:nod:

2POINT5TURBO

09-21-2015, 06:55 PM

Your girlfriend has a real eye for shooting porn. Wait, what?;) Nice shots with great lighting and bnackrounds:nod:

Thank God she is a turbo dodge lover!

Turbo224

09-22-2015, 01:00 PM

Love this project, thanks for posting!

2POINT5TURBO

09-22-2015, 04:50 PM

Love this project, thanks for posting!

your welcome !

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if you guys have any questions on the build dont be afraid to ask

2POINT5TURBO

09-27-2015, 08:26 PM

Heading to the track this coming weekend stay tuned for the first result.

Turbulence

09-27-2015, 08:43 PM

OK, weekend is almost over, where are the results? ;)

Martin

2POINT5TURBO

10-04-2015, 01:25 AM

So after a long and tedious break in on the motor finding several small things that needed to be tweaked. We finally made down to the track to see what the car could do on a very mild pump gas tune.

I'd like to thank first and foremost Shadow for the tremendous help with coaching me on how to stage properly and get my groove going !:amen:

I'm proud to say that I have now taken the Manitoba Daytona Shelby record that was held by another member of our turbo dodge team Luigi for 12 years at 13.1@ " " Hopefully Rob can shed some light on this part haha.

Ran 14.7 first run then I broke an axel "driver side" but after inspecting it a bit with Rob we saw it had a previous crack in it !. Shortly after we ran 13.7. After lunch I got into my groove a bit and finally wrapped off a 12.62! Couldn't be happier today !

Things that were done to the car for the runs today

19psi boost

Added a few gallons 110 to be safe

Low 7-8 degree base timing to be safe

10 - 10.8 AFR's to be safe.

6000rpm max to be safe

Against 35km/ hr headwind

Full bodied with race buckets

VIDEO BELLOW

https://youtu.be/PPK4r2b2nJs

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=56384&stc=1

Turbulence

10-04-2015, 11:14 AM

Nicely done Nick!

Martin
85 T&C wagon

2POINT5TURBO

10-04-2015, 11:46 AM

Nicely done Nick!

Martin
85 T&C wagon

Now its the wagons turn !!

Picture of Rob, the car and me

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18079992/daytona/coach%20rob.jpg

2POINT5TURBO

10-04-2015, 11:50 AM

12.95@107 MPH

missed up 1-2 shift

https://youtu.be/HdBeMt82jag

Turbulence

10-04-2015, 03:12 PM

Now its the wagons turn !!

Next spring my friend!

2POINT5TURBO

10-05-2015, 08:07 PM

driver side axle......

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=56387&stc=1

Shadow

10-06-2015, 12:30 PM

I think you meant, Drivers side axle carnage! ;)

Reaper1

10-06-2015, 03:18 PM

Wow! Snapped at the damper on the axle shaft! Interesting. I wonder if corrosion played a part in that failure. It certainly looks like it might have.

2POINT5TURBO

10-06-2015, 04:26 PM

I think you meant, Drivers side axle carnage! ;)

Shaaabammm! I thought it took a chunk out of the trans when I saw all that oil!

Wow! Snapped at the damper on the axle shaft! Interesting. I wonder if corrosion played a part in that failure. It certainly looks like it might have.

It would appear that way, but even then this motor is a monster to handle ! BUT when the pedal is to the floor I feel just like this haha! :banana-mario:

Shadow

10-06-2015, 08:45 PM

Wow! Snapped at the damper on the axle shaft! Interesting. I wonder if corrosion played a part in that failure. It certainly looks like it might have.

Yeah, I cleaned that down good with brake cleans before taking the pic. The areas you see that have rust on them ARE rusted. This axle was fractured and starting to rust into the fracture before Nick finished it off.

Interestingly enough, I have never run axles with the damper on.(maybe once out of necessity, but brand new axle IMS) Looking at this break, it would seem that it is definitely a moisture/ corrosion trap.

Reaper1

10-07-2015, 02:20 PM

I had a front anti-roll bar that was broken inside one of the pivot bushings because of the same issue.

GLHS60

10-10-2015, 05:01 PM

I had a front anti-roll bar that was broken inside one of the pivot bushings because of the same issue.

Finally!!!

Someone who correctly calls an anti roll bar what it is, not a sway bar!!

Thanks
Randy

Shadow

10-11-2015, 10:32 AM

Finally!!!

Someone who correctly calls an anti roll bar what it is, not a sway bar!!

Thanks
Randy

What if I said "anti Sway bar?" Would that be politically incorrect? ;)

GLHS60

10-11-2015, 01:00 PM

It would be O.K. if you were referring to a Daytona track bar as it controls sway, not roll !!!

Thanks
Randy

Shadow

10-11-2015, 01:28 PM

It would be O.K. if you were referring to a Daytona track bar as it controls sway, not roll !!!

Thanks
Randy

Technically speaking, I Agree. To the general public though, splitting hairs, as most will readily refer to a cars roll moments as it Swaying to one side or the other.

So Anti-sway/ Anti-roll = same Basic difference.............:p

BTW, Happy Thanksgiving!!!! ;)

2POINT5TURBO

10-11-2015, 03:12 PM

GLHS60

10-12-2015, 07:49 PM

Technically speaking, I Agree. To the general public though, splitting hairs, as most will readily refer to a cars roll moments as it Swaying to one side or the other.

So Anti-sway/ Anti-roll = same Basic difference.............:p

BTW, Happy Thanksgiving!!!! ;)

Technically speaking you agree!!

While I totally respect all your accomplishments, fine craftsmanship and novel writing I find your comment somewhat bizarre!!

I wasn't trying to clutter up the O.P.ers thread, just acknowledging Reapers correct terminology.:thumb:

I probably do split hairs trying to learn and promote correct terms and never call an Engine a motor or a wheel a rim.

Come to think of it you probably have a few hair hair splitters too!!! I dare you to list some :eyebrows:

Happy Turkey Day to all !!!

Thanks
Randy

Shadow

10-12-2015, 10:17 PM

Technically speaking you agree!!

While I totally respect all your accomplishments, fine craftsmanship and novel writing I find your comment somewhat bizarre!!

I wasn't trying to clutter up the O.P.ers thread, just acknowledging Reapers correct terminology.:thumb:

I probably do split hairs trying to learn and promote correct terms and never call an Engine a motor or a wheel a rim.

Come to think of it you probably have a few hair hair splitters too!!! I dare you to list some :eyebrows:

Happy Turkey Day to all !!!

Thanks
Randy

I would say I prob have More than just a few lol

As Bizarre as it may seem..........

sway
(swā)
v. swayed, sway·ing, sways

v.intr.
1. To swing back and forth or to and fro. See Synonyms at swing.

2. To incline or bend to one side; veer: She swayed and put out a hand to steady herself. The car swayed as it turned the corner from having too much body roll.

GLHS60

10-13-2015, 02:59 AM

Shadow

10-13-2015, 08:58 AM

So let me get this straight.

Technically you agree but are still trying to justify that sway and roll are the same thing because you don't think folks are smart enough to tell the difference?? :confused:

Thanks
Randy

Sorry bro, I thought that last bit would let the cat out of the bag.

Just me horsing around, poking the Bear, so to speak ;)

2POINT5TURBO

10-13-2015, 01:51 PM

I"m the bear!!!

2POINT5TURBO

11-29-2015, 07:07 PM

Inside view of the 12.62 run :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7SmGZNiQy0&feature=youtu.be

cordes

11-29-2015, 08:31 PM

Nice run. I'm surprised that they let you run with the stuff hanging off of your mirror though.

2POINT5TURBO

11-29-2015, 08:52 PM

Nice run. I'm surprised that they let you run with the stuff hanging off of your mirror though.

It's honestly about three inches long, the tech guy was pretty cool about everything mind you we checked the car thoroughly before heading to the track for anything it could possibly fail. Besides that's my cross I would never race without it.

I would have thought you guys could see my tongue chewing action more than anything lol !.

Vigo

11-30-2015, 11:54 AM

What boost level during that run?

2POINT5TURBO

11-30-2015, 07:57 PM

what boost level during that run?

this is nowhere near the boost this car will be running at the track over the next few years, I am 100% positive this build will be pretty out there ! :)

12.62@109 mph @19 psi

the 12.62 is just touching the actual potential of this build.

Shadow

12-01-2015, 10:52 AM

What boost level during that run?

That was 19 psi pump gas tune and running well rich with a little 110 mixed it just to be safe until we really get a chance to tune it this spring. (I believe I had base timing back at 8 deg as well IMS)

Nice to see how calm things look inside the car Nick! I told you I didn't want you to think you had to Push things to run into the 12's, just drive smoothly and the build will do the rest.

Glad to see it was just a Sunday cruise! ;)

Reeves

12-29-2015, 04:03 PM

Cool build! Subscribed!

2POINT5TURBO

12-30-2015, 11:57 AM

That was 19 psi pump gas tune and running well rich with a little 110 mixed it just to be safe until we really get a chance to tune it this spring. (I believe I had base timing back at 8 deg as well IMS)

Nice to see how calm things look inside the car Nick! I told you I didn't want you to think you had to Push things to run into the 12's, just drive smoothly and the build will do the rest.

Glad to see it was just a Sunday cruise! ;)

I can honestly say I am very happy to have a great mentor by my side, without the pep talks and inside knowledge on how to drive these cars that 12 second run wouldn't have happened especially within only 4 runs and a 35k/m head wind.

Cool build! Subscribed!

Thanks ! means a lot hope to get some awesome feedback from the Turbo gurus on here !

Nick

2POINT5TURBO

12-30-2015, 01:31 PM

buddy put this together for me, very nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJNA4yK__ZU

Shadow

01-01-2016, 12:33 PM

I can honestly say I am very happy to have a great mentor by my side, without the pep talks and inside knowledge on how to drive these cars that 12 second run wouldn't have happened especially within only 4 runs and a 35k/m head wind.

Nick

Having the knowledge and experience of having done something is the Easy part. Passing it on to others is difficult.

Most either can't get beyond the "bad habits" of the past, or the ideology that they know a Better way of doing things, so they can Never Fully Embrace what you are trying to show/ teach them.

You did what very few can do. You took all of my critique, which would Offend most and then you did something More.............You Believed it was possible! (This was the Most important part!)

So don't sell yourself and Your part in all of this Short. In the end, You pulled it off, I was just happy to be there and help in any way I could ;)

knownenemy

01-01-2016, 01:17 PM

mopar-tech

01-01-2016, 02:49 PM

Having the knowledge and experience of having done something is the Easy part. Passing it on to others is difficult.

Unlearning what you have "learned" from "experts" is difficult for some people.

2POINT5TURBO

01-01-2016, 06:18 PM

Unlearning what you have "learned" from "experts" is difficult for some people.

12 years ago I was one of those know it all turbo Dodgers lol after blowing up two motors I decided to listen...I know what robs going to say lol ! I melted a forged piston three years ago haha. But it was not my fault I swear lol we had tuned the car for 20 psi and it spiked to 27.....

2POINT5TURBO

01-02-2016, 04:30 PM

LOVE this thread!!!

It's SO eerily similar to my build.
Seeing it come to fruition is really great,
and lights a fire inside to afford my build the time I should be!

Thanks for the inspiration, and keep up the great work guys. :)

do you have a link to your build yet ? or a thread ? I'd love to read up on it.

Nick

ps thanks for the inspiring words

knownenemy

01-02-2016, 04:44 PM

do you have a link to your build yet ? or a thread ? I'd love to read up on it.

Nick

ps thanks for the inspiring words
http://www.turbododge.com/forums/f4/f279/459649-1987-glhs-0896-project-log-26.html

2POINT5TURBO

07-22-2016, 04:38 PM

Decided I didnt want to hack up my dash for a double din stereo, so made a bracket to hold up my blackbarry playbook. I'll keep working on the bracket and ways to route the wires. I'll post updates as I make more progress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppUhq_N51No&feature=youtu.be

2POINT5TURBO

01-31-2018, 05:02 PM

aww all the pictures from my thread are gone stupid dropbox

CatchaCuda

01-31-2018, 08:48 PM

Hey, any updates? How is the car, been gone for too long! I hope everything has been going well.

Dr. Johny Dodge

01-31-2018, 10:34 PM

how do you like your hurst shifter and would you buy it again if you had a reason ??

Shadow

01-31-2018, 11:28 PM

Hey Nick, good to see you posting again, getting anxious for spring?

2POINT5TURBO

02-01-2018, 04:06 PM

Hey, any updates? How is the car, been gone for too long! I hope everything has been going well.

I actually just started her yesterday for mid winter, those forged pistons and the .30 board over don't like each other very much haha! but regardless even in the summer time I always wait for the car to come to operating temp before I drive it.

how do you like your hurst shifter and would you buy it again if you had a reason ??

I would buy it all over again for myself in general it has shortened the shift strokes dramatically and allows you to change the length of your shift rod. there was extensive mods to the factory shifter base mount inside the car to make the SRT-4 hurst shifter fit.

I should add that you should get the poly bushings because this shifter will demolish the factory ones !, after the second time of having to reach up and put the car into a gear and drive it home, I was pretty pissed lol.

original with shortened rod
https://v7lsgg.bn1302.livefilestore.com/y4mSpDNMfDTuauSIkTGa6cG6BLqxX1OIjsfpjOQg9ExkM4d2pK 8TAz74HhSxwhs5DxZDaTDP7TlnsBPRyhXIV53O_NP3ts7YOpjc snGC7jDcB6kGVt9nBclR7RqIxkQSF1EW_jbq85ZWOvYbKxE9N5 llZS3EhC7pLwB5VaoUOdPFdcrNU97XD20-sar-40RxjGwN8qzwWzVD03_6V5ArkHVYw?width=453&height=604&cropmode=none

SRT-4

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This pic is when I had my 40 trim turbo mated to a 63 ar housing and shadows crazy swin valve !
https://xbiiba.bn1302.livefilestore.com/y4mSRIraVk_WyXQD4IBi2g5OEqAtfxn2jyEpc0hOESO1lIoszm zU-LOt9ObmMjzSck2D9S1pps91HHtclwmWTUoxACxg8ktC9iL_xa8 dWZU2cnQGql_oLQWUD5KQG9G68NXHi8lEIhj4FrCA8PPAVMSZt G-1bN_UrfLSkgZRv1skfjnFxZQrjq6asjv93bJ7wIZj1i7KkRyAo L9ntXYu-vxlQ?width=604&height=453&cropmode=none

Anyone notice Shadows insane 3 inch swing valve in the picture bellow ( you get to see these kind of things when you are in shadows shop )

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https://ut1oea.bn1302.livefilestore.com/y4mS4G_e59aZVOqbztQlVT9bR8P325FPfEB7Rih3jLVVFfPP66 ltHH7IwFyGnb9wfA3khC8-wxs68n-sF_iw1wDLhfNFM_ngq7TyeySHfnpQKSGEO2xkGmMqEFovNUR6P DDdU_B4XtSCm9R_TIhg-lObHuYEK04sE5JWRdV6Mgi7-yS9VD0XB2Px6N38pJI4ST4k0_JM-OsOMGKOWO8X6uPJQ?width=1024&height=768&cropmode=none

Hey Nick, good to see you posting again, getting anxious for spring?

Its killing me haha I miss driving the car, I finally purchased that adjustable wastegate actuator that you mentioned for the HE351CW. its going to be exciting ! Need to do a crazy front end shake down like its no body's business LOL feel like the car is going to fall apart when boost hits !

(https://www.ebay.com/itm/Apexi-AVC-R-Electronic-Digital-Boost-Controller-Black-420-X905-/391807486723)