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acannell
11-28-2014, 08:44 PM
I stripped 3rd so the input shaft is toast, but there are alot of other parts.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff197/acannell/20141128_163051_zpsqkearqny.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/acannell/media/20141128_163051_zpsqkearqny.jpg.html)

135sohc
11-28-2014, 09:12 PM
On the remaining gears and synchronizer sliding collars what do all the little teeth look like? Are they rounded over/ground off or still nice and sharp? Is the ring and pinion gear available and if so do you know the final drive ratio? Thanks

acannell
11-28-2014, 09:23 PM
On the remaining gears and synchronizer sliding collars what do all the little teeth look like? Are they rounded over/ground off or still nice and sharp? Is the ring and pinion gear available and if so do you know the final drive ratio? Thanks

the ring and pinion are gone, but I have some of the gears and the sliding collars left. I've definitely sold some of them though so its not a full set. All look to have great condition teeth, except for 3rd lol

Which ones are you interested in? Are the sync collars made of brass and only brass? Because I see some similar looking parts that are steel. I have two of the brass parts left.

135sohc
11-28-2014, 10:06 PM
864014.jpg (http://www.supercars.net/gallery/132464/1899/864014.jpg) brand new or really good condition.
864012.jpg (http://www.supercars.net/gallery/132464/1899/864012.jpg) Trashed condition, scrap metal. I would imagine the ones in that transmission are somewhere in-between condition-wise.

How much for the case and all the covers/bolts ?

acannell
11-28-2014, 10:42 PM
864014.jpg (http://www.supercars.net/gallery/132464/1899/864014.jpg) brand new or really good condition.
864012.jpg (http://www.supercars.net/gallery/132464/1899/864012.jpg) Trashed condition, scrap metal. I would imagine the ones in that transmission are somewhere in-between condition-wise.

How much for the case and all the covers/bolts ?

Okay I'll use those pics and compare, and take pics of the condition of what I have.

There are alot of "gear looking" parts, exactly which are you looking for? Just the pieces that have the teeth in your pic and the actual gear teeth that transmit power shaft to shaft? As well as the brass rings?

The major cost of the case and covers will be shipping. Can you PM me your shipping address and I'll try to figure out the cheapest way.

OmniLuvr
11-29-2014, 05:36 PM
damn, i stripped third on mine too, what year? early small spline clutch or later large spline clutch?

acannell
11-29-2014, 05:50 PM
damn, i stripped third on mine too, what year? early small spline clutch or later large spline clutch?

I believe small spline because I swapped to an A568 and kept the same clutch..although Im not sure if that proves its small spline or not

iTurbo
11-29-2014, 07:44 PM
Kind of impossible to say based on you keeping the same clutch disc. Both the A523 and A568 used the smaller input shaft in '90 and they both went to the larger input shaft for '91 up.

The larger input shaft has 17 splines (~7/8"). The smaller has 18 (3/4").

OmniLuvr
11-29-2014, 10:45 PM
^yup! ive been told the later 523 are stronger and i hope thats the case because ive got 2 93's, the one i blew up was early 90 small spline, i was pretty bummed, lasted about as long as my 525 (but i was throwing a little more power at it, even though not half as much as i thought it could take).

acannell
06-05-2015, 10:44 AM
bump!!

here we go again..I definitely have the big box of parts still (ring and pinion are GONE)

I see some brass synchro rings and some of them have very good looking teeth

Tell me what you want and how to identify it in my box of parts and its yours!!!

acannell
06-05-2015, 11:02 AM
$100 + actual shipping charges takes ALL OF IT

Not sure how much shipping will be, but I can get you a final quote on it if you PM me your address and whether its residential/commercial

And of course I can confirm/deny the presence of certain items in the box if you like, w/ pics.

I think I'd just ship it in the box its in, which is what it came in. A huge rubbermaid style container with a lid.

acannell
06-05-2015, 01:28 PM
heres what I have left as of today 6/5/15

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff197/acannell/20150605_101928_zpshkmjortn.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/acannell/media/20150605_101928_zpshkmjortn.jpg.html)

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff197/acannell/20150605_101934_zpseor3nj15.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/acannell/media/20150605_101934_zpseor3nj15.jpg.html)

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff197/acannell/20150605_101940_zpspv9la3oi.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/acannell/media/20150605_101940_zpspv9la3oi.jpg.html)

ajakeski
06-05-2015, 01:41 PM
PM sent

acannell
06-05-2015, 07:16 PM
Shifter assy SOLD!

acannell
06-10-2015, 11:55 PM
bump! some deals:

whatever you (well, I, but your choice) can fit into the priority mail flat rate box of your choice, $75 + shipping!

that could easily be the 2 brass synchro rings, 2 steel synchro rings, the diff (no ring gear), 2 shift forks, 3 shift fork pads, random gears/cones, etc..

keep in mind I have the shoe-box flat rate box, which is more square and might fit bigger things, as well as the usual flat rate boxes

and if FEDEX or another USPS shipping method is actually cheaper, we can do that instead if you want

shackwrrr
06-11-2015, 05:33 PM
Use it as mock up for crash box modification services....

Here is an example of the modification, every other dog tooth is taken off the speed gears, the same is done to the synchro sliders...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-72-Borg-Warner-Super-T10-4-Speed-Transmission-Gear-1st-2nd-3rd-Crash-Box-/121623895361

acannell
06-27-2015, 07:08 PM
last call! make an offer!

or

anything you want shipped in a small flat rate box, $45 shipped! (that could easily be all the synchro rings, pads, and maybe gears/forks?

or take all of it for $75 + actual s/h (I can tell you beforehand what that will be)

cant believe I may actually end up throwing good condition 523 synchros in the trash......

everything in the above pictures is still there except the shifter housing I believe...

Force Fed Mopar
06-27-2015, 11:24 PM
If the 2nd gear is the same as a 543 and is in good shape, I'd be interested in it.

acannell
06-27-2015, 11:36 PM
If the 2nd gear is the same as a 543 and is in good shape, I'd be interested in it.

okay if I am interpreting the parts manual correctly:

my tranny is 4446238, an A543 is 4505317 , and it lists 2nd gear as the same for those two part number trannies

the next question is..do I still have it...how do I positively identify which of the pieces is 2nd gear?

Force Fed Mopar
06-27-2015, 11:42 PM
It's a steel gear with synchro teeth on it.

acannell
06-27-2015, 11:46 PM
It's a steel gear with synchro teeth on it.

do you see it in any of these pics?

http://www.turbododge.com/forums/f7/f28/407559-parting-out-broken-a523-3.html#post3839442

135sohc
06-28-2015, 12:23 AM
What year 543 ? There is early vs late. That is an early (90-91) 523. 543 of the same vintage would be the same gear. If you have a 92-94 543 its going to use a different second gear that is the same as a 92-94 523.

second gear is the one directly above the two shift forks.


My offer. $100 shipped for everything remaining. Commercial business address if it matters.

Force Fed Mopar
06-28-2015, 12:24 AM
No I don't think so. It might be one of those 2 with 2 sets of teeth though. Been a while since I looked at it, and I don't have it where I can get to it easy either. Don't worry about it, I think mine is repairable anyway.

acannell
06-28-2015, 12:32 AM
What year 543 ? There is early vs late. That is an early (90-91) 523. 543 of the same vintage would be the same gear. If you have a 92-94 543 its going to use a different second gear that is the same as a 92-94 523.

second gear is the one directly above the two shift forks.


My offer. $100 shipped for everything remaining. Commercial business address if it matters.

okay then ignore what I said, I was only looking at the 90 catalog so I have no idea

I might be able to do the $100 shipped for everything. PM me your full shipping address and I'll weigh and measure it and let you know

btw make sure to use these pics to know what you are getting, im not sure which pictures you are looking at:

http://www.turbododge.com/forums/f7/f28/407559-parting-out-broken-a523-3.html#post3839442

Force Fed Mopar
06-28-2015, 12:40 AM
What year 543 ? There is early vs late. That is an early (90-91) 523. 543 of the same vintage would be the same gear. If you have a 92-94 543 its going to use a different second gear that is the same as a 92-94 523.

second gear is the one directly above the two shift forks.


My offer. $100 shipped for everything remaining. Commercial business address if it matters.

Pretty sure it is a large spline input shaft that I have, so probably late model.

Ondonti
06-28-2015, 02:00 AM
I want the 1-2 synchro wear parts and the bearing retainer plate. Somebody feel free to outbid me instead of lowballing .

Or the previous $45 box offer.

I don't monitor classifieds.

acannell
06-28-2015, 09:31 AM
I want the 1-2 synchro wear parts and the bearing retainer plate. Somebody feel free to outbid me instead of lowballing .

Or the previous $45 box offer.

I don't monitor classifieds.

Im not sure I still have those....do you see them in the pic? I would think I would have sold the 1-2 synchro parts long ago but Im not sure.

135sohc
06-28-2015, 08:05 PM
Pretty sure it is a large spline input shaft that I have, so probably late model.

The large spline came about for 1991 so its still possible to have the early type gear set and a large spline input.

Ondonti
06-29-2015, 02:33 AM
Looks like they are in the picture

acannell
06-29-2015, 11:23 AM
Looks like they are in the picture

I could have sworn I sold those already but if you think you see them then so be it. No guarantees though! I dont know one from the other. Shouldnt the brass rings I have have way more wear if they were 1-2?

Payment is pending on a previous deal that came first but if it falls through then the $45 small flat rate box is yours.


http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff197/acannell/20150627_180309_zps9wvhafsa.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/acannell/media/20150627_180309_zps9wvhafsa.jpg.html)
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff197/acannell/20150627_180313_zpsuizlhxii.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/acannell/media/20150627_180313_zpsuizlhxii.jpg.html)
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff197/acannell/20150627_180316_zpsmde6o8oe.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/acannell/media/20150627_180316_zpsmde6o8oe.jpg.html)
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff197/acannell/20150627_180319_zps3f9mfghh.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/acannell/media/20150627_180319_zps3f9mfghh.jpg.html)
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff197/acannell/20150627_180716_zpsuxdvgvbc.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/acannell/media/20150627_180716_zpsuxdvgvbc.jpg.html)
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff197/acannell/20150627_180325_zpsnxnzvlyr.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/acannell/media/20150627_180325_zpsnxnzvlyr.jpg.html)

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff197/acannell/20150627_180329_zpsuubllv9h.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/acannell/media/20150627_180329_zpsuubllv9h.jpg.html)

acannell
06-29-2015, 01:33 PM
PM'd you Ondonti.

First person to send me $45 gets whatever they want in a small flat rate box shipped to USA. Send via paypal to office @ exotic electron dot com

or $75 gets you EVERYTHING on the cardboard (not the aluminum housings/diff) shipped to USA.

Or if you want to pay immediately by credit/debit, PM me and I willl send you an invoice through square.

135SOHC I cant do $100 shipped for everything. Shipping is like $50 at least.

Sorry to be annoying guys but I have had this tub of parts sitting around for 3 years and it is leaving the property one way or another on Thursday. If nobody wants these things the big green truck will be taking them.

Ondonti
06-30-2015, 10:08 AM
Mo parts 4 me. Looks like I am getting what I want too.

acannell
06-30-2015, 10:17 AM
Mo parts 4 me. Looks like I am getting what I want too.

THANK YOU!! Please PM me your full shipping address, and whether its residential or commercial. I may ship Fedex instead of USPS>

All thats left now are the housings and diff! (and broken input shaft)

Ondonti
07-10-2015, 11:14 AM
THANK YOU!! Please PM me your full shipping address, and whether its residential or commercial. I may ship Fedex instead of USPS>

All thats left now are the housings and diff! (and broken input shaft)

Did you junk the stuff? I kinda want that the aluminum end plate.

acannell
07-10-2015, 11:26 AM
Did you junk the stuff? I kinda want that the aluminum end plate.


Nope I still have the rest! Which piece is the aluminum end plate? The bowl shaped one with the little metal thing riveted on the inside in the metal with the little tube that sticks up? (Visible in the pic with the input shaft sitting on it)

Anything else? I'll get you a total once you let me know..

I truly will be taking all this to the recycler instead of dumping it, its just across town so I am waiting for another reason to go there. But I am very happy to finally get these parts out of my spare room after 3 years, so they are going for sure!

Ondonti
07-13-2015, 11:01 AM
Nope I still have the rest! Which piece is the aluminum end plate? The bowl shaped one with the little metal thing riveted on the inside in the metal with the little tube that sticks up? (Visible in the pic with the input shaft sitting on it)

Anything else? I'll get you a total once you let me know..

I truly will be taking all this to the recycler instead of dumping it, its just across town so I am waiting for another reason to go there. But I am very happy to finally get these parts out of my spare room after 3 years, so they are going for sure!

I mostly want the sandwich plate that the bearing retainer bolts to. The cover might make shipping excessive...

acannell
07-13-2015, 11:14 AM
I mostly want the sandwich plate that the bearing retainer bolts to. The cover might make shipping excessive...

the sandwich plate is the one about 3/4" thick with the long oil "guide" sticking out of it right?

i'll price shipping with and w/o the cover

Ondonti
07-16-2015, 06:22 AM
the sandwich plate is the one about 3/4" thick with the long oil "guide" sticking out of it right?

i'll price shipping with and w/o the cover

Yeah, plus I think the guide can be pushed out to make it ship easier? I will forget about this thread again so maybe PM.