Turbos Unleashed Cast Header

[MPI_duster]

After reading a recent post by Chris, quoted below, I'd like to see how many people we can truly get interested in one of these. Chris is a valuable contributor to our community, can we get enough support for another round of headers to be made?

"In regard to our cast iron headers, it took 4 years for us to sell 90 of them with good feedback on the forums. Someone with our first generation Stainless Steel welded hybrid header purchased a generic turbo off EBay and ran it in their L-Body for several years. When they transitioned it to their P-Body they ran into clearance issues with their brake booster. TU guarantees all our headers will work with TU turbos. We cannot be held responsible for fitment issues when a customer purchases his turbos elsewhere without checking for clearance. Whenever there were inquiries on the message boards regarding the second generation cast iron header this person would chime in and discourage people from buying it based on his experience with his first generation welded Stainless version. We fought back trying to explain they were two different header designs but the bashing was allowed to continue. Our sales dropped off even worse. We were nearing the end of our first run of 100 so we just decided to discontinue the product. We invested a significant amount of money into the multi step port design, flow testing and final production for these but with all the unwarranted negativity we just felt frustrated with the drama and lack of support. A couple of times I promised to bring the header back if we could get a minimum of 40 pre-orders but we have always fallen short. The challenge is still there. If someone else wants to do it I will offer up a free header for their troubles.

Thanks,

Chris-TU"

I've got interest in at least one for my Consulier, anyone else who is interested please chime in or PM me. The criteria is as follows (according to Chris):
"We would need 40 commitments on the message board. Once we reach the magic number all those who committed need to come through with a deposit of $100. Production will be delayed until all deposits have been collected. When I contact the foundry and machinist I will get their best guess on eta so we will have some sort of final shipping date. If that's acceptable to everyone here I will agree to start the research.

Chris-TU"

Members interested in a header:
1. Deryk

[glhs875]

I'm in

[168glhs1986]

I'll take 2 spares for the Omni

[DetroitTurbo]

I'm interested in one.

[ajakeski]

Thanks for offering these again, but I'm going to pass.

[going4speed]

How much will the final price be? I see the deposit of a $100

[2.216VTurbo]

How much will the final price be? I see the deposit of a $100

Good question, in the original thread I said I'd take two if similarly priced to the original. If cost of production went up $35. or $50. I'd still be in for two.

[Chris W]

Members interested in a header:
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ETA and price will be posted once I have spoken to foundry and machinist. If production extends beyond estimate you will have the option to request 100% refund of deposit. If production is completed on or before ETA and you change your mind then you lose your deposit.

Chris-TU

[nvysion]

I'm in for one (and for a 3" S/V).

[Chris W]

If interested, please copy the list and add your name like this:

Members interested in a header:
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Thanks!

Chris-TU

[wowzer]

need to wait to see eta. if available by early spring then i'm in.

[francois]

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[Chris W]

Foundry provided us with a 4 week lead time. They stated there are cost increases every year and will review our original order to determine current costs.

Still waiting on machinist return call with price and eta.

Stay Tuned....

Chris-TU

[Chris W]

Foundry provided us with a 4 week lead time. They stated there are cost increases every year and will review our original order to determine current costs.

Still waiting on machinist return call with price and eta.

Stay Tuned....

Chris-TU

*UPDATE*

Foundry unit price increase is $20 apiece plus additional metal surcharge of $5. total increase is $25.

Using the original $425. price of the header that puts us at $450. without pricing from our machine shop. I did hear from them though and they said they still had the fixtures and he would get back to me with a price soon.

NOTE: Current eta on Foundry is 4 weeks. My machinist slow time is just before the Christmas Holidays so we would need to place this order quickly with the foundry so the castings would be completed before this window of opportunity. The sooner we get to 40 the more likely these will be completed without a delay. If we wait until the first of the year my machinist will have to schedule it between jobs which will delay things.

[francois]

Chris, is there a way we could get some 3'' sv at the same time (or close) ?

[Chris W]

Chris, is there a way we could get some 3'' sv at the same time (or close) ?



We do have about 100 of the 3" dual pattern swingvalves in stock and already machined. The issue we have is obtaining the swingvalve mechanism so we can press them in and start shipping. All the vendors we have contacted are requiring minimum of 1000-2000 units based on our specs which will drive up our costs. We recently found a company that can provide quantity 100 "standard" specs and we will work on upgrading them to our "standards" (ie. Larger sealing puck and shaft bushing).


See photo here:

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?73002-New-Turbo-s-Unleashed-3-quot-Swing-Valve&p=1015167&viewfull=1#post1015167

Chris-TU

[moparzrule]

I'm in for one :)

[Chris W]

Members interested in a header:
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[moparzrule]

We may also want to post this in the TU section not just group buy.....just to help the advertisement of it. Just a thought.

[DetroitTurbo]

How about the folks on the other site? That could help get our number faster.

[moparmorrell]

these sound great but being new to turbo mopars, is there somewhere I can learn more about them before making a decision if its something I interested in getting

[MPI_duster]

How about the folks on the other site? That could help get our number faster.


I've already got a thread that is linked to this on the other site. But thanks for looking out.

[Chris W]

Spoke with our machinist today. Price increased by $25. so new headers would be $475. Once we reach 40 participants on the list we will require $100. Deposit from each person. Balance of header payment would be required within 30 days of headers being completed or you forfeit your deposit. If we can't produce headers in 3 months and anyone wants out the deposit is fully refundable. Hope that makes sense. If not ask questions.

For those of you on the "other" message boards please share this update.

Thanks!

Chris-TU

[moparmike1970]

I would be interested in buying a manifold if it's not too late.

[Chris W]

I would be interested in buying a manifold if it's not too late.

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[amoparacer]

:eyebrows::eyebrows:Okay Im in Im buying 2. When Chris TU first made these I bought one of these Headers, it is a work of art it is a step Design this help cylinder draw from cylinder 4. This thing is build like a Mac truck my grand children will still be using these after Im dead and gone. I fell on hard times a year ago and decided to sell my car Shelby924 first thing to go was the TU cast Iron header along with GT30 DBB turbo and my TU purple clutch. Then times got better for me luckily I did not sell the car. I am currently building it back to run in the 10s with a huge ported G head and 8 point cage. I called Chris to Order another Header and thats when I found out he has not had any for 2-3 years. I do not want a custom tube header I could make one but the Step Header Design In my opinion is better in flow and will never crack or warp. After I fitted My TU cast Iron header I had it coated. Not by TU and the coating flaked off. This time I will fit the headers and have TU coat it with the Flame ceramic coating they offer. I still had a TU stainless log header that I had TU coat its 6 years old coating still holding up to bad I sold it before I knew TU was out of the Ultimate Cast Iron header. Dame it now I have to make a stainless LOG to run before these Ultimate step headers are finished. If any of you have a car with a bunch of Hi end parts on them but they are slower than you think they should be take my advise add your self to the list and buy this header.

Okay Im now off my soap box. Before you ask NO IM NOT GETTING A DISCOUNT FOR THIS INFOMERCIAL but if you don't I will continue to waste you at the track with mine. When it comes

THIS ADD IS AMOPARACER APPROVED PS your engine will look like my Avitar if you don't buy one of these TU ULTIMATE CAST IRON HEADERS.!!!!! :eyebrows::eyebrows::eyebrows::eyebrows::eyebrows: :eyebrows::eyebrows::eyebrows::eyebrows::eyebrows: :eyebrows::eyebrows::eyebrows::eyebrows::eyebrows: :eyebrows:

[amoparacer]

Members interested in a header:
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3. 168glhs1986
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6. ajakeski
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[DetroitTurbo]

Awesome nice plug amoparacer!

[amoparacer]

Well your welcome co buying member. To the top again

[intercooled]

I'm interested but what price ?

[iTurbo]

Tell you what guys....if you can get to 20 I will help out. But that is only 1/2 way and I've got other irons in the fire I wish that TU would do as well (like Masi 16v valve cover gaskets.)

...and I KNOW at least one other person on this Group Buy would like to have some new Masi 16v valve cover gaskets as well. Time to prove those naysayers wrong Chris!!

...so about those 20+ that want headers....make it happen already.

[2.216VTurbo]

Tell you what guys....if you can get to 20 I will help out. But that is only 1/2 way and I've got other irons in the fire I wish that TU would do as well (like Masi 16v valve cover gaskets.)

...and I KNOW at least one other person on this Group Buy would like to have some new Masi 16v valve cover gaskets as well. Time to prove those naysayers wrong Chris!!

...so about those 20+ that want headers....make it happen already.


...:drum:...

[iTurbo]

Somehow I think this thread might achieve better success if it was titled:

"Make iTurbo pay 2013!!"

Haha....seriously guys, custom parts such as this don't come around very often. We are talking a cast iron header! I'm also in on the big plenum intake Group Buy and this is going to be a nice complement to that. When it comes to custom fab parts, you gotta speak up or forever hold your peace when they aren't available..

[iangoround]

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[wowzer]

i'ld be in at 20 also.

[iTurbo]

Saturday bump.

[xirocrtx]

Count me in for 2!!

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[amoparacer]

these sound great but being new to turbo mopars, is there somewhere I can learn more about them before making a decision if its something I interested in getting

This header flows 2X better than stock if you want your car to rock you need this manifold.

[Chris W]

This header flows 2X better than stock if you want your car to rock you need this manifold.

Well, it's not quite double but we appreciate your enthusiasm Lynn :)

Going off of memory here are the lbs per min flow numbers:

Stock exhaust manifold un-ported= 325
Stock exhaust manifold ported (several tested from multiple vendors)= 335 (+3% flow)
Alabama Man Standard Log design header= 355 (+8.5% flow)
Turbos Unleashed Stainless Steel Hybrid Turbo Header (relocated turbo flange) = 397 (+18% flow)
Turbos Unleashed Cast Iron Hybrid Turbo Header with Step Design= 484 (+33% flow)


Chris-TU

[amoparacer]

Buy your self the Christmas Present you really want.

[nvysion]

I'm really surprised by the small gain using a ported Chrysler manifold.
If I knew that I would have kept the stock unit.
Unless the +3% hides something else, I do not understand why members and even vendors port the stock manifold.

[moparzrule]

Total flow isn't everything. When under 300whp (where a ported stock is most useful), the largest gain when the stock unit is ported correctly is increased velocity for faster turbo spoolup. This increases low and mid range power a decent bit over the stock unit. There will also be top end gains from the increased flow.

I don't think my ported stocker was tested in that 3% figure, and personally I'm pretty sure mine are more than 3%. But with that said, ~3% is going to mean 10whp on a 300whp setup. That's not insignificant for one mod that costs a little over $100.

In my personal testing my ported stocker spooled the same turbo to full boost 300 RPM faster than a forward motion ported unit. Just looked at forward motions' approach, I could tell that it was all ported for flow and that port velocity was not even considered.

Again, to clarify, a ported stock is most useful on 300whp or less setups. TU's header is really designed to have the most gains for over 300whp applications. There may be some gains in the 250-300whp range with a TU header, but IMO not justified by the cost UNLESS you are planning future upgrades (which happens a lot).

[nvysion]

Thanks for your help.
In your post you are talking about port velocity, does that correspond to the exhaust gas speed ?
In this case, the more you port, the more you increase the area for the gas, the more you reduce the gas speed (for a constant flow though which is nearly the case at +3%).
Can someone clarify this please ?

[moparzrule]

Velocity, yes the speed/efficiency in which the air moves through the port. Air is a fluid, anytime you can spiral flow a fluid it will move faster in a given port size (and actually flow more because of the increased efficiency).

TU's header increases port velocity in a different way though. It's a step tube design in which the tube size increases after each port is added into the flow. This design is good for port velocity and does wonders for flow (as indicated by the 33% increase). It's pretty much the best of both worlds, you can only do so much with porting a stocker which is why I recommend the TU header above 300whp applications (though because of it's design it's OK to run on 250-300whp applications but the gains will be minimal).

[DetroitTurbo]

Thanks for offering these again, but I'm going to pass.

Looks like Ajakeski said he will pass on the header, should take him off the list to better represent it.

[daver]

Is there an original thread or information page regarding this header with pics, install requirements etc?

[moparzrule]

There's a couple pics and info in this thread-

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?67667-Post-your-interest-in-having-Chris-do-another-run-of-the-TU-Cast-Header

[The Pope]

I'm really surprised by the small gain using a ported Chrysler manifold.
If I knew that I would have kept the stock unit.
Unless the +3% hides something else, I do not understand why members and even vendors port the stock manifold.

You can push more air at the turbo with a better header or correct porting. The TU headers takes advantage of porting and cams raised exhaust flow.

In simple terms when you can push a turbo harder, you can run a bigger turbo for racing or have better response on the street with a larger turbo. The real gains come from the larger turbo you can push, not the direct flow like headers on a V8.

[nvysion]

Thanks Rob.

[DetroitTurbo]

2014 bump!

[amoparacer]

Hey let's get this party Rollin add your self to the cast Iron header club buy one today

[zin]

At this rate, we could do a lay-away and have them paid for by the time they are delivered... If it takes 18 months to have them in-hand, that's less than $0.90 a day!...

Who can't afford that!

Mike

PS I already have one or I would be in on this too... Might still, especially if that "last one" is holding up the works.

[daver]

Put me down for one.

[iangoround]

Put me down for one.

I think that makes #18?

[86seeS]

Put me down I'm in

[errol]

Hi Chris, I'm interested in the new production hybrid header so if u'd be so kind to put me down for one thank u. Regards Errol

[86seeS]

That's half way right?

[moparzrule]

Yeah but the 1st half is whats easy, yet that took like forever to get. There's pretty much no way it's getting to 40.

[francois]

There's pretty much no way it's getting to 40.

Oh c'mon!

We are at least 21 and Mike just got 2 more TD. He might jump to get 2 more so...getting close to 40!
:thumb::lol:

[moparzrule]

Our definition of ''close'' is vastly different. Plus, as I said, it's far easier to get the first 20 than it is the second 20.

[168glhs1986]

Please take me off the list. With only 1 non stocker L body now and a large tax bill, private school, drug habit (haha) etc....I'm downsizing.

Thanks!

[iTurbo]

Just thought I would post an updated list. I replaced 168glhs1986's spots #3 and #4 with daver and errol, and also added 86seeS. I left ajakeski at #6 because I didn't see a post from him anywhere to be removed..

Sure would be pretty nice to have one of these headers to go along with my new big plenum intake from lengel..

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[OnLooker]

Read post 5

[iTurbo]

Read post 5

ah, totally missed it! Updated again.


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[errol]

Hi Chris, would u sign me up for one of the hybrid manifolds, Thank you. Regards. Errol

[chargerturbo87]

Chris,

Ok, Ok - put me on the list for one of the Cast Headers.

Best Regards,

Steve

[Chris W]

NOTE:

There is no financial commitment to add your name onto this list. We have spoken with several serious buyers who tell us they are waiting for us to get closer to our goal number before they add their name mainly because they thought there is a $ deposit required. Once we reach 40 participants on the list we will then require $100. deposit from each person. Balance of header payment would be required within 30 days of headers being completed or you forfeit your deposit. If we can't produce headers in 3 months from when we initiate build and anyone wants out the deposit is fully refundable. See my post # 23 in this thread for more information regarding pricing, etc. Hope that makes sense.

If not ask questions.


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[rgl10]

Please sign me up for one also, thanks.

[Pageophile]

Yes, it's my first post but please add me to the list :)

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[nvysion]

What is the estimate price for the header ?

[Keito]

From Post #14

Foundry unit price increase is $20 apiece plus additional metal surcharge of $5. total increase is $25.

Using the original $425. price of the header that puts us at $450. without pricing from our machine shop. I did hear from them though and they said they still had the fixtures and he would get back to me with a price soon.

[Chris W]

Update with machinist pricing included:

Spoke with our machinist. Price increased by $25. so new headers would be $475. Once we reach 40 participants on the list we will require $100. deposit from each person. Balance of header payment would be required within 30 days of headers being completed or you forfeit your deposit. If we can't produce headers within 3 months time from when 40th deposit is received and anyone wants out the deposit is fully refundable. Hope that makes sense. If not ask questions.

For those of you on the "other" message boards please share this update.

Thanks!

Chris-TU

[OnLooker]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS
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[going4speed]

we're rolling now..lets keep it going..spread the word!!! :thumb:

[errol]

Chris! I can't seem to figure out how to add my name to the list for the cast header? please help. Thanks.Errol

[errol]

ERR! I just saw my name on the list, twice! so please scratch one, Thank you very much. Errol

[iTurbo]

Thanks for the clarification errol. Updated list:

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS
18. chargerturbo87
19. going4speed
20. pageophile
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[JohnnyIroc]

if these could be produced before sdac i am in, otherwise i might still be after but do not want to put my name down yet and throw the count off

[errol]

Chris! I'm looking all over the site and I don't see my name on the order list, last time I looked my name was there twice, wrote asking you to remove one, looked again today and saw nothing, i do need one so please put my name back on the list. Thank you. Regards Errol

[iTurbo]

Errol, you're on there at #4.

[Chris W]

if these could be produced before sdac i am in, otherwise i might still be after but do not want to put my name down yet and throw the count off

The closer we get to 40 the more people that will join in. You are not the only one who is hesitating to put their name on the list for similar reasons. If you would just add your name anyway with a short note about your situation it might inspire others to do the same and we can begin production sooner. As you can see we have already pulled out parts of the mold and are ready to go. We are just waiting on you. :)

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[errol]

Ok thank you Chris. Regards Errol

[midniteracer1]

Count me in Chris !!! I want my car to kick some ricer azz here in NY !!!! Good chatting with you on the phone !!

[midniteracer1]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS
18. chargerturbo87
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[JohnnyIroc]

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2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS
18. chargerturbo87
19. going4speed
20. pageophile
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I cant argue with that, lets keep the names coming!

[Dr. Johny Dodge]

ok, ok here I am .. finally
sign me up for one too please and thank you

< ... "Mitsu booster" ... really ? REALLY ?

[2.216VTurbo]

ok, ok here I am .. finally
sign me up for one too please and thank you

< ... "Mitsu booster" ... really ? REALLY ?

Uh, well welcome to TM.com and thanks for joining. What would you like you title to be? We can accomodate:D If yo ugo ahead and commit to the last 15 headers, I'll call you "The Man" for as long as you're here:thumb:

[DetroitTurbo]

Oh snap doc joined TM. Welcome and thanks for helping the header along!

[midniteracer1]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS
18. chargerturbo87
19. going4speed
20. pageophile
21. rgl10
22. iTurbo
23. Onlooker
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I'm taking 2 of them. That's why my name is down twice! It's good to have an extra one on hand !

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I think Doc needs his name added??

[Dr. Johny Dodge]

yes "doc" needs to get on the list

I've missed out on a used one 3 years in a row - that needs changed

[midniteracer1]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS
18. chargerturbo87
19. going4speed
20. pageophile
21. rgl10
22. iTurbo
23. Onlooker
24. Midniteracer1
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26. Midniteracer1
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I put you on the list Doc. Hope that was ok??

[Dr. Johny Dodge]

thanks

[going4speed]

man getting up there now!!! :bump2:

At the rate my car is going together I might just get to use this on the GLHS!!!:confused:

[LaserDad]

Sign me up for one. I put one on my other car, when you did the first batch, and have been hoping they would be available again.
I would have been on board sooner, but never saw the offer, even on the TU site.

[Chris W]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS
18. chargerturbo87
19. going4speed
20. pageophile
21. rgl10
22. iTurbo
23. Onlooker
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Sign me up for one. I put one on my other car, when you did the first batch, and have been hoping they would be available again.
I would have been on board sooner, but never saw the offer, even on the TU site.

Thank You Laser Dad!!

[banger68]

Put me down for one. Hopefully this happens before the Canadian dollar dips too far. ;)

[JohnnyIroc]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS
18. chargerturbo87
19. going4speed
20. pageophile
21. rgl10
22. iTurbo
23. Onlooker
24. Midniteracer1
25.johnnyiroc
26. Midniteracer1
27. Dr. Johny Dodge
28. LaserDad
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Down to 11 more needed!!!

[moparloper]

Just to be sure, this will have the dual pattern flange (Chrysler/T3) and comes with the extension hardware for the drain-back and other line (as still shown on the TU site). If this is the case, I will take 2 of them. I have been a day late and a dollar short too many times to miss out again.

[Chris W]

Just to be sure, this will have the dual pattern flange (Chrysler/T3) and comes with the extension hardware for the drain-back and other line (as still shown on the TU site). If this is the case, I will take 2 of them. I have been a day late and a dollar short too many times to miss out again.

It would be impossible to produce these for both Chrysler and T3 turbine housings as they each require different flange angles.

Chris-TU

[moparloper]

So will the be the Chrysler or the T3 or is it possible to have a choice?

[Chris W]

So will the be the Chrysler or the T3 or is it possible to have a choice?

If you want the t3 style we can sell you the header without the flange machined. This way it can be made to fit whatever turbine housing you want to use.

Chris-TU

[going4speed]

how about the drain tubing is that included?

[moparloper]

If I can get one with the Chrysler and one unmachined I would be good with that

[Chris W]

If I can get one with the Chrysler and one unmachined I would be good with that

That works. And yes, all coolant and oil line adapters as seen on our site are included.

Chris-TU

[moparloper]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS
18. chargerturbo87
19. going4speed
20. pageophile
21. rgl10
22. iTurbo
23. Onlooker
24. Midniteracer1
25. johnnyiroc
26. Midniteracer1
27. Dr. Johny Dodge
28. LaserDad
29. Banger68
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[wheming]

If you want the t3 style we can sell you the header without the flange machined. This way it can be made to fit whatever turbine housing you want to use.

Chris-TU

That certainly opens up some interesting possbilities!
I'm on the fence if I should grab another.
I better get it figured out though before I can't make the decision without "approval"! :(

[shellboy]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS
18. chargerturbo87
19. going4speed
20. pageophile
21. rgl10
22. iTurbo
23. Onlooker
24. Midniteracer1
25. johnnyiroc
26. Midniteracer1
27. Dr. Johny Dodge
28. LaserDad
29. Banger68
30. Moparloper
31. Moparloper (unmachined flange)
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[4 l-bodies]

Okay, have a couple questions. Think this is Chrysler flanged with option of unmachined flange for Ford Style? Just wanted to confirm that. Chris you mentioned Ford flange needs different flange angles? I assume this is if using your 3" swingvalve, as donut angle would not be correct? Using ATP V-band swingvalve this would be a non-issue I would surmise.
How about clearance in L-body for 3 & 4" TO4E or GT series compressor covers? Enough room for turbo inlet? Heater hoses clear big compressor covers. Any pics of L-body installs. Top side is what I'm concerned about. Not being negative, just want to know how it fits in tight engine bays.
Thanks,
Todd

[Chris W]

Okay, have a couple questions. Think this is Chrysler flanged with option of unmachined flange for Ford Style? Just wanted to confirm that. Chris you mentioned Ford flange needs different flange angles? I assume this is if using your 3" swingvalve, as donut angle would not be correct? Using ATP V-band swingvalve this would be a non-issue I would surmise.
How about clearance in L-body for 3 & 4" TO4E or GT series compressor covers? Enough room for turbo inlet? Heater hoses clear big compressor covers. Any pics of L-body installs. Top side is what I'm concerned about. Not being negative, just want to know how it fits in tight engine bays.
Thanks,
Todd

Todd,

If you compare both style turbine housings you may notice the Chrysler versions slopes down considerably after the exhaust flange surface while the Ford style continues straight out. Because of the Ford's design it will become a challenge for wastegate rod clearance with the intake when using any style swingvalve. Even worse though is the close proximity of the hot turbine housing in relation to the intake manifold. Your boosted air will be subjected to more radiation heat which will negate all of your intercoolers efforts. In order to compensate for the lack of slope it is necessary to angle the header flange so the body of the turbine housing is further away from the intake. Our dual pattern 3" swingvalve will function properly as long as the correct angle is machined into the header flange. While the initial cost of the ATP swingvalve itself might sound attractive once you add in the cost of an O2 sensor bung, welding, unique downpipe and flex pipe the final costs may actually come out the same or even more. It really comes down to personal preference.

We have completed both 4" inlet GT30s and the 3" inlet T04E Hybrid installs in L-Bodys using our cast iron hybrid header and TU 3" swingvalves.

The GT30 install was completed by T-M member A.J. in member T-Bohn's '86 GLHS. When I spoke with A.J. today he did not recall any unique issues regarding compressor cover, air inlet hose or heater core line clearance. The only hiccup he recalled was one of the custom Braided Steel turbo coolant lines needed to be adjusted, but, that was easily resolved. I have attached a few photographs of work in progress but none of them are close ups of the turbo to firewall/brake booster. Perhaps T-Bohn may be able to snap a couple of pictures for you.
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The second example is a Shelby Charger that has a T04E Hybrid installed. Once again no clearance issues anywhere.

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Hope that answers all of your questions.

Chris-TU

[going4speed]

will this work with a rod shifted transmission?

[DetroitTurbo]

Chris, I'm assuming due to the placement of the turbo being moved, the turbo-to-block brace no longer works and will require a custom piece. Correct?

[Chris W]

will this work with a rod shifted transmission?

Most likely not as the downpipe is relocated in the path of one of the rods. I have heard that some have been able to get around this. Not sure if they modified the downpipe, shift linkage or a little of both. Since we have not seen or completed this ourselves we are reluctant to advertise our header for rod shifted transmissions.

Chris-TU

[Chris W]

Chris, I'm assuming due to the placement of the turbo being moved, the turbo-to-block brace no longer works and will require a custom piece. Correct?

There is actually a second threaded transmission bracket hole just to the left that lines up with the turbo support bracket when using our cast iron hybrid header. It might be slightly off and the oil return tube is real close but the bracket can easily be modified to make it work. Honestly, since we designed the header extra beefy using the bracket isn't really necessary, but if you can make it work it's always good insurance.

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[going4speed]

Ah dangit...my name needs to come off the list then.:(


Most likely not as the downpipe is relocated in the path of one of the rods. I have heard that some have been able to get around this. Not sure if they modified the downpipe, shift linkage or a little of both. Since we have not seen or completed this ourselves we are reluctant to advertise our header for rod shifted transmissions.

Chris-TU

[DetroitTurbo]

There is actually a second threaded transmission bracket hole just to the left that lines up with the turbo support bracket when using our cast iron hybrid header. It might be slightly off and the oil return tube is real close but the bracket can easily be modified to make it work. Honestly, since we designed the header extra beefy using the bracket isn't really necessary, but if you can make it work it's always good insurance.

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Ah ok, I just don't like the idea of that much weight on the back of the cylinder head. I made a 1/4" thick brace from stainless steel bar, so if the oil return is too close I can always notch that and it will still be strong.

[Chris W]

Ah ok, I just don't like the idea of that much weight on the back of the cylinder head. I made a 1/4" thick brace from stainless steel bar, so if the oil return is too close I can always notch that and it will still be strong.

Correct, slight notching of the support bracket for oil drainback tube clearance would be necessary.

Chris-TU

[midniteracer1]

Updated
1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS
18. chargerturbo87
19. going4speed
20. pageophile
21. rgl10
22. iTurbo
23. Onlooker
24. Midniteracer1
25. johnnyiroc
26. Midniteracer1
27. Dr. Johny Dodge
28. LaserDad
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[minigts]

There is actually a second threaded transmission bracket hole just to the left that lines up with the turbo support bracket when using our cast iron hybrid header. It might be slightly off and the oil return tube is real close but the bracket can easily be modified to make it work. Honestly, since we designed the header extra beefy using the bracket isn't really necessary, but if you can make it work it's always good insurance.

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That shows support from the USPS, I wouldn't have much confidence in that at all. :D

[Chris W]

In anticipation of reaching our goal we pulled out the hybrid header pattern today.


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Looking forward to getting the ball rolling on these.

Chris-TU

[going4speed]

Updated:

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS
18. chargerturbo87
19. pageophile
20. rgl10
21. iTurbo
22. Onlooker
23. Midniteracer1
24. johnnyiroc
25. Midniteracer1
26. Dr. Johny Dodge
27. LaserDad
28. Banger68
29. Moparloper
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[2.216VTurbo]

Updated:

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2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo(I like the unmachined option for one of mine, I didn't think to ask gonna copy Loper on this one:eyebrows:)
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS
18. chargerturbo87
19. pageophile
20. rgl10
21. iTurbo
22. Onlooker
23. Midniteracer1
24. johnnyiroc
25. Midniteracer1
26. Dr. Johny Dodge
27. LaserDad
28. Banger68
29. Moparloper
30. Moparloper (unmachined flange)
31.shellboy
32.Lancerman23
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Almost there:thumb:

[midniteracer1]

Giving this a Saturday night bump. Maybe for those of us who didn't go out tonight will see this thread and throw there name on list :)

[midniteracer1]

I have a guy from td.com that wants to know of the HP gains of manifold & if it will fit in an 87 GLHS ? Can anybody chime in ? His name is Shelbyrich on td.com Post #32 on the below link.

http://www.turbododge.com/forums/f4/f15/591826-tu-header-new-production.html#post3176146

[moparzrule]

Totally depends on the rest of his setup. Any idea how much power he's making? What's he running now, stocker? Ported?

[Pageophile]

Getting closer :D Woot!

[midniteracer1]

bump!

[midniteracer1]

We need 8 more people to get this TU header started...

[zin]

Add my name for one, maybe it'll get it to the "critical mass" needed to get the rest of the lurkers out there to commit!:thumb:

Mike

[midniteracer1]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo(I like the unmachined option for one of mine, I didn't think to ask gonna copy Loper on this one)
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS
18. chargerturbo87
19. pageophile
20. rgl10
21. iTurbo
22. Onlooker
23. Midniteracer1
24. johnnyiroc
25. Midniteracer1
26. Dr. Johny Dodge
27. LaserDad
28. Banger68
29. Moparloper
30. Moparloper (unmachined flange)
31. shellboy
32. Lancerman23
33. Zin
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Thanks Zin !!! Just 7 more people & then Chris @ TU can start hammering them out for us!! Header is gonna be sweeeet !!!!

[85boostbox]

Add me on. Unmachined flange please. For 1 only.

[midniteracer1]

Re: Turbos Unleashed Cast Header

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo(I like the unmachined option for one of mine, I didn't think to ask gonna copy Loper on this one)
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS
18. chargerturbo87
19. pageophile
20. rgl10
21. iTurbo
22. Onlooker
23. Midniteracer1
24. johnnyiroc
25. Midniteracer1
26. Dr. Johny Dodge
27. LaserDad
28. Banger68
29. Moparloper
30. Moparloper (unmachined flange)
31. shellboy
32. Lancerman23
33. Zin
34. 85Boostbox
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6 spots left.......

[85boostbox]

Unmachined flange please

[wheming]

Does ordering the unmachined flange pass some savings onto the consumer? I might have missed that if it was already gone over.

[Pageophile]

Sooooooooo close!

[midniteracer1]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo(I like the unmachined option for one of mine, I didn't think to ask gonna copy Loper on this one)
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS
18. chargerturbo87
19. pageophile
20. rgl10
21. iTurbo
22. Onlooker
23. Midniteracer1
24. johnnyiroc
25. Midniteracer1
26. Dr. Johny Dodge
27. LaserDad
28. Banger68
29. Moparloper
30. Moparloper (unmachined flange)
31. shellboy
32. Lancerman23
33. Zin
34. 85Boostbox (Unmachined Flange)
35.
36.
37.
38.
39.
40.

[MPI_duster]

Glad this is still progressing well. I've been terribly busy lately, here's hoping we can get this awesome product back on the shelves.

[Chris W]

Does ordering the unmachined flange pass some savings onto the consumer? I might have missed that if it was already gone over.

I spoke with our vendor and he said once a header is "set up" in the machining equipment it is the same price.

Chris-TU

[86seeS]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo(I like the unmachined option for one of mine, I didn't think to ask gonna copy Loper on this one)
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS (unmachined flange)
18. chargerturbo87
19. pageophile
20. rgl10
21. iTurbo
22. Onlooker
23. Midniteracer1
24. johnnyiroc
25. Midniteracer1
26. Dr. Johny Dodge
27. LaserDad
28. Banger68
29. Moparloper
30. Moparloper (unmachined flange)
31. shellboy
32. Lancerman23
33. Zin
34. 85Boostbox (Unmachined Flange)
35.
36.
37.
38.
39.
40

Unmachined for me also

[wheming]

Thanks for the update Chris.
I'm trying to decide if I should get another.

[zin]

Put me down for an unmachined one, I've already got one of the originals, so it will be good to have options if the need should arise...

Mike

[midniteracer1]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo(I like the unmachined option for one of mine, I didn't think to ask gonna copy Loper on this one)
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS (unmachined flange)
18. chargerturbo87
19. pageophile
20. rgl10
21. iTurbo
22. Onlooker
23. Midniteracer1
24. johnnyiroc
25. Midniteracer1
26. Dr. Johny Dodge
27. LaserDad
28. Banger68
29. Moparloper
30. Moparloper (unmachined flange)
31. shellboy
32. Lancerman23
33. Zin (Unmachined flange)
34. 85Boostbox (Unmachined Flange)
35.
36.
37.
38.
39.
40

[MPI_duster]

I guess I should bump this to encourage some more people once again. We're almost there and this will be an awesome product to have on the shelves again.

[midniteracer1]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo(I like the unmachined option for one of mine, I didn't think to ask gonna copy Loper on this one)
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS (unmachined flange)
18. chargerturbo87
19. pageophile
20. rgl10
21. iTurbo
22. Onlooker
23. Midniteracer1
24. johnnyiroc
25. Midniteracer1
26. Dr. Johny Dodge
27. LaserDad
28. Banger68
29. Moparloper
30. Moparloper (unmachined flange)
31. shellboy
32. Lancerman23
33. Zin (Unmachined flange)
34. 85Boostbox (Unmachined Flange)
35. Srt4maddness
36.
37.
38.
39.
40

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I guess I should bump this to encourage some more people once again. We're almost there and this will be an awesome product to have on the shelves again.
srt4maddness just joined the list...

[85boostbox]

"crickets"

[zin]

So close.... and yet so far!

Honestly, how many others are out there thinking: "maybe I'll throw down for another (2 or 3), just to get this thing started!"?

Thoughts crossed my mind... Maybe if/when I own my own highly profitable company I could justify it as a R&D/promotional expense!

Mike

[JohnnyIroc]

it has been running through my head trying to figure out how long down the road it will be till i need a second one
or how much im going to be kicking myself for not getting the second one.
but i do check back on the thread every single time there is an update even though its still 5 away
and i just posted it up to the turbo mopar buy sell trade facebook page

[zin]

So close.... and yet so far!

Honestly, how many others are out there thinking: "maybe I'll throw down for another (2 or 3), just to get this thing started!"?

Thoughts crossed my mind... Maybe if/when I own my own highly profitable company I could justify it as a R&D/promotional expense!

Mike

[going4speed]

Ah screw it...you only live once

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo(I like the unmachined option for one of mine, I didn't think to ask gonna copy Loper on this one)
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS (unmachined flange)
18. chargerturbo87
19. pageophile
20. rgl10
21. iTurbo
22. Onlooker
23. Midniteracer1
24. johnnyiroc
25. Midniteracer1
26. Dr. Johny Dodge
27. LaserDad
28. Banger68
29. Moparloper
30. Moparloper (unmachined flange)
31. shellboy
32. Lancerman23
33. Zin (Unmachined flange)
34. 85Boostbox (Unmachined Flange)
35. Srt4maddness
36. Going4speed
37.
38.
39.
40

[BOOSTIFIED]

Put me down for an unmachined one, I've already got one of the originals, so it will be good to have options if the need should arise...

Mike

What's the difference between machined and not machined?

[moparloper]

What's the difference between machined and not machined?

Since we are only 4 away (SOOO CLOSE), I need to be sure we are all on the same page with this. The thought is, that the flange is actually machined flat (flycut or ground), it is just not drilled and tapped for a specific turban housing.
Chris is this how it will be done?

[going4speed]

I'm hoping it comes just like this :thumb:

49411

[86seeS]

Unmachined is just undrilled. Im drilling mine for T3 flange to run a precision pte6266.....oops! Cats out of the bag lol

[85boostbox]

Well if it doesn't hit soon I'm going to back out. Would be a nice addition to my race car but I can't wait too long. I just ordered myself a new welder and will build myself something.

[Dr. Johny Dodge]

that shouldn't be an issue now
heck I jumped on the list on the 4th of march
there's been 10 more names added to the list since and it's not april -yet

[Chris W]

Since we are only 4 away (SOOO CLOSE), I need to be sure we are all on the same page with this. The thought is, that the flange is actually machined flat (flycut or ground), it is just not drilled and tapped for a specific turban housing.
Chris is this how it will be done?

Header to cylinder flange will be pre-machined and drilled. Header to Turbo flange will not be machined, drilled or tapped.

Chris-TU

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I'm hoping it comes just like this :thumb:

49411

It can, but, thermal coating is extra. All accessories as shown are included.

Chris-TU

[going4speed]

so unmachined means raw casting on that end or?

[Chris W]

so unmachined means raw casting on that end or?

Correct, unless the buyer requests machined flange and no holes drilled or tapped.

Chris-TU

[86seeS]

Oooooo OK I was wrong. I just want mine with out the Chrysler pattern so I can drill it my self to use a T3 turbo. Chris can you change me on the list I'm not sure what to put for that.

[moparzrule]

I also need standard T3 so no drilling or tapping for me.

Chris would it be too difficult to add an option for standard T3 flange?

[moparloper]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo(I like the unmachined option for one of mine, I didn't think to ask gonna copy Loper on this one)
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS (unmachined flange)
18. chargerturbo87
19. pageophile
20. rgl10
21. iTurbo
22. Onlooker
23. Midniteracer1
24. johnnyiroc
25. Midniteracer1
26. Dr. Johny Dodge
27. LaserDad
28. Banger68
29. Moparloper
30. Moparloper (Non drilled and tapped flange)
31. shellboy
32. Lancerman23
33. Zin (Unmachined flange)
34. 85Boostbox (Unmachined Flange)
35. Srt4maddness
36. Going4speed
37.
38.
39.
40

Changed mine to non-drilled and tapped.

[Chris W]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo(I like the unmachined option for one of mine, I didn't think to ask gonna copy Loper on this one)
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS (unmachined flange)
18. chargerturbo87
19. pageophile
20. rgl10
21. iTurbo
22. Onlooker
23. Midniteracer1
24. johnnyiroc
25. Midniteracer1
26. Dr. Johny Dodge
27. LaserDad
28. Banger68
29. Moparloper
30. Moparloper (Non drilled and tapped flange)
31. shellboy
32. Lancerman23
33. Zin (Unmachined flange)
34. 85Boostbox (Unmachined Flange)
35. Srt4maddness
36. Going4speed
37.
38.
39.
40

Changed mine to non-drilled and tapped.

No problem. Explain in detail how we can tap without drilling though ;)

[2.216VTurbo]

OK, now I'm confused. I want to be able to drill/tap/stud whatever to whatever flange turbo I'm gonna run. I don't really want to take it to a machine shop to get it flycut tho:confused: Is there simply just an "Undrilled" option?

[86seeS]

Ya what Alan said

[moparzrule]

He's just screwing with the way you worded it. You can't tap it without drilling a hole. The way you said it made it sound like you didn't want it drilled but still wanted it tapped ;)

[going4speed]

I just want to be able to bolt my t2 garrett S60 to it...however that gets done.

[moparzrule]

The standard Chrysler flange does the trick for you (what it normally comes with). :)

[Chris W]

He's just screwing with the way you worded it. You can't tap it without drilling a hole. The way you said it made it sound like you didn't want it drilled but still wanted it tapped ;)

LOL! I know, was just playing along.

Regarding the turbo mating flange it may be best to machine the flange angle based on which turbine housing you will be using. Remember, Chrysler housings have a steeper slope than most others as we already discussed. You may run into intake interference problems if you use the same surface angle

Chris-TU

[moparloper]

Not to complicate this any further but, I have to ask Chris specifically and anyone else who has used this header. When designed (I assume), you placed the turbo where it had the most clearance possible for say a TU hybrid or other water cooled cartridge. Do you think that with just an oil cooled/lubed turbo, more clearance might be gained by changing the angle of the flange (a reason not to machine the flange)? If not machined is there enough material to change the angle several degrees (rotating the cartridge away from the firewall)?
I just want to ask as many questions possible for everyone's benefit. I have the ability to machine the flange but, I probably will not change my current request.
The "drill and tap" is just a subconscious habit from doing hole callouts on drawings.

[Chris W]

Not to complicate this any further but, I have to ask Chris specifically and anyone else who has used this header. When designed (I assume), you placed the turbo where it had the most clearance possible for say a TU hybrid or other water cooled cartridge. Do you think that with just an oil cooled/lubed turbo, more clearance might be gained by changing the angle of the flange (a reason not to machine the flange)? If not machined is there enough material to change the angle several degrees (rotating the cartridge away from the firewall)?
I just want to ask as many questions possible for everyone's benefit. I have the ability to machine the flange but, I probably will not change my current request.
The "drill and tap" is just a subconscious habit from doing hole callouts on drawings.


Intake clearance is more of a concern then firewall when using Ford style housings as all body types have already been tested using Chrysler wet bearing TU Hybrid turbos. Additional firewall clearance can be achieved by machining down header and/or turbine housing flange. Clearance issues are directed more towards compressor cover and turbine housing choices as the cartridge is always smaller.

Chris-TU

[midniteracer1]

What flange is used for a gt3071r? Ford?

[moparzrule]

Yes standard T3.

[daver]

Hmm, just been reading through the last couple pages in this thread. Does anybody have any more info or experience running one of these with a rod shifted transmission?

The only 8v car I'll have left at this point is my 87 S which I was planning to keep rod shifted.

[midniteracer1]

Need 4 more people. Anybody?

[Dr. Johny Dodge]

Hmm, just been reading through the last couple pages in this thread. Does anybody have any more info or experience running one of these with a rod shifted transmission?

The only 8v car I'll have left at this point is my 87 S which I was planning to keep rod shifted.

I've been told it won't work with the rod linkage - at least not without modification - guessing major but Idono

suposedly the down pipe is one issue as this manifold moves the turbo toward the driver's side

[midniteracer1]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo(I like the unmachined option for one of mine, I didn't think to ask gonna copy Loper on this one)
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS (unmachined flange)
18. chargerturbo87
19. pageophile
20. rgl10
21. iTurbo
22. Onlooker
23. Midniteracer1
24. johnnyiroc
25. Midniteracer1
26. Dr. Johny Dodge
27. LaserDad
28. Banger68
29. Moparloper
30. Moparloper (Non drilled and tapped flange)
31. shellboy
32. Lancerman23
33. Zin (Unmachined flange)
34. 85Boostbox (Unmachined Flange)
35. Srt4maddness
36. Going4speed
37. The Pope
38.
39.
40

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3 more & list is complete

[88C/S]

I'll take one, can always use a spare for the future. They work great!

[86seeS]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. Detroitturbo
6. 2.216VTurbo(I like the unmachined option for one of mine, I didn't think to ask gonna copy Loper on this one)
7. 2.216VTurbo
8. nvysion
9. Francois-
10. Moparzrule
11. moparmike1970
12. amoparacer
13. amoparacer
14. iangoround
15. xirocrtx
16. xirocrtx
17. 86seeS (undrilled flange)
18. chargerturbo87
19. pageophile
20. rgl10
21. iTurbo
22. Onlooker
23. Midniteracer1
24. johnnyiroc
25. Midniteracer1
26. Dr. Johny Dodge
27. LaserDad
28. Banger68
29. Moparloper
30. Moparloper (Non drilled and tapped flange)
31. shellboy
32. Lancerman23
33. Zin (Unmachined flange)
34. 85Boostbox (Unmachined Flange)
35. Srt4maddness
36. Going4speed
37. The Pope
38. 88C/S
39.
40

[85boostbox]

Can I understand something. Why can't Chris meet us with the other 2 and stock it on his shelves as stock. Whadda say Chris? Let's get this going already.

[midniteracer1]

^ +1 :)

[The Pope]

Can I understand something. Why can't Chris meet us with the other 2 and stock it on his shelves as stock. Whadda say Chris? Let's get this going already.

won't be long now lol

[85boostbox]

Well gotta admit this has been one hell of a group buy. Most group buys are typically 10 committed. This one was 40 and we are 2 short. This has been interesting.

[zin]

I'm sure Chris has plans to make more than 40, but needs to have this many "pre-sold" so to speak so that he is assured he won't go broken while waiting for enough to sell to cover costs, let alone actually make some money ....

I will admit I'm anxious too, tempting me to sign up for a third .... but the bill when they do come in would be hard to justify.

Mike

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I'm sure Chris has plans to make more than 40, but needs to have this many "pre-sold" so to speak so that he is assured he won't go broken while waiting for enough to sell to cover costs, let alone actually make some money ....

I will admit I'm anxious too, tempting me to sign up for a third .... but the bill when they do come in would be hard to justify.

Mike

[contraption22]

I'm sure Chris has plans to make more than 40, but needs to have this many "pre-sold" so to speak so that he is assured he won't go broken while waiting for enough to sell to cover costs, let alone actually make some money ....

I will admit I'm anxious too, tempting me to sign up for a third .... but the bill when they do come in would be hard to justify.

Mike

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I'm sure Chris has plans to make more than 40, but needs to have this many "pre-sold" so to speak so that he is assured he won't go broken while waiting for enough to sell to cover costs, let alone actually make some money ....

I will admit I'm anxious too, tempting me to sign up for a third .... but the bill when they do come in would be hard to justify.

Mike

Agreed. I'm sure he'll make more, but he needs a number of commitments before he takes too big of a risk. Only makes sense.

[DetroitTurbo]

Sorry guys but I have to drop out. I know we are close to the end but I just lost my job last week. Good luck!

[moparzrule]

Ouch, that sucks man. Hopefully you find another one soon :)

[wheming]

Well, I have to say I already have one ready to be used, and it is really nice with the flame spray thermal coating Chris can have done!
But, I think I would like another. However with this year's other financial commitments, I can't get in on the group buy right now. Although I would much rather have another header than overpay a wedding photographer for pictures I'll hardly ever look at...
I might be in a better position to get another one next year or so.

Chris, do you plan on keeping any on the shelf from this batch?

[2.216VTurbo]

I saw Chris and his wife in Cali this weekend at the Spring Fling show in his white Consulier so I know he has been on the road. Prolly why w're a few posts up on him...

[midniteracer1]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. 2.216VTurbo(I like the unmachined option for one of mine, I didn't think to ask gonna copy Loper on this one)
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. nvysion
8. Francois-
9. Moparzrule
10. moparmike1970
11. amoparacer
12. amoparacer
13. iangoround
14. xirocrtx
15. xirocrtx
16. 86seeS (undrilled flange)
17. chargerturbo87
18. pageophile
19. rgl10
20. iTurbo
21. Onlooker
22. Midniteracer1
23. johnnyiroc
24. Midniteracer1
25. Dr. Johny Dodge
26. LaserDad
27. Banger68
28. Moparloper
29. Moparloper (Non drilled and tapped flange)
30. shellboy
31. Lancerman23
32. Zin (Unmachined flange)
33. 85Boostbox (Unmachined Flange)
34. Srt4maddness
35. Going4speed
36. The Pope
37. 88C/S
38.
39.
40.

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Need 3 more

[85boostbox]

I need to change mine from Unmachined flange to un drilled and untapped flange please.

[midniteracer1]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. 2.216VTurbo(I like the unmachined option for one of mine, I didn't think to ask gonna copy Loper on this one)
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. nvysion
8. Francois-
9. Moparzrule
10. moparmike1970
11. amoparacer
12. amoparacer
13. iangoround
14. xirocrtx
15. xirocrtx
16. 86seeS (undrilled flange)
17. chargerturbo87
18. pageophile
19. rgl10
20. iTurbo
21. Onlooker
22. Midniteracer1 (undrilled and untapped flange)
23. johnnyiroc
24. Midniteracer1(undrilled and untapped flange)
25. Dr. Johny Dodge
26. LaserDad
27. Banger68
28. Moparloper
29. Moparloper (Non drilled and tapped flange)
30. shellboy
31. Lancerman23
32. Zin (Unmachined flange)
33. 85Boostbox (undrilled and untapped flange)
34. Srt4maddness
35. Going4speed
36. The Pope
37. 88C/S
38.
39.
40.

[iangoround]

Wait, can I get this set up with whatever the factory flange is? I haven't actually worked on my car in so long I've forgotten what's what.

[zin]

It comes "standard" with the Chrysler flange, but can be had either unmachined, or, if you'LLC be using a different pattern, machined, but undrilled.

Folks, correct me if I'm mistaken.

Mike

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It comes "standard" with the Chrysler flange, but can be had either unmachined, or, if you'LLC be using a different pattern, machined, but undrilled.

Folks, correct me if I'm mistaken.

Mike

[wheming]

Many already know but for the sake of those that don't, there are two major difference between the Chry T3 and the standard T3: the inlet flange shape and drill pattern, and the housing shape.

I think where the confusion still lies is if you plan to use with a standard T3 turbine housing the header flange will need to be cut at a different angle relative to the head flange.
49531
The flange above would be more wedge shaped (less flange thickness at the bottom) and I suspect the bolt holes would be drilled perpendicular to the new surface.
As Chris mention the Chrysler T3 turbine housing is shaped different than the standard (Ford) T3.
49532
This is a Chrysler style housing and you can see the angle immediately after the header flange. The standard T3 the housing is more strait.
http://www.turboneticsinc.com/store/image/cache/data/T3%20T4/T3_T4E_5_BOLT_DISCHARGE-500x500.jpg

Hope this helps and not confuses more. If you plan to use with the stardard T3 and you don't get the header flange machine differently, you may have clearance issues with your intake manifold.
(And just for clarfication that picture shows the thermal coating which is extra.)

[Chris W]

^ What Wayne said.

Just machining the surface flat won't help those who intend to use a standard T3 housing. A sharper angle in the header to turbine housing flange (thicker top, thinner bottom) is required in order for the snail portion to clear the bottom of the intake manifold. Options being offered for this header are machined, drilled and tapped turbine flange for Chrysler bolt pattern or un-machined, drilled or tapped.

Chris-TU

[francois]

Sweet and dead on!
Since a few of you have asked for different bolt pattern, I am wondering which one I have.

[Chris W]

Can I understand something. Why can't Chris meet us with the other 2 and stock it on his shelves as stock. Whadda say Chris? Let's get this going already.

TU never really broke even with the first batch of cast iron headers. It's very challenging to gauge this market. We had sold a considerable amount of first generation stainless steel headers so making a cast iron version seemed like the logical choice. Overall, The CI header was a much better product. It incorporated the step design and flowed considerably better then the welded version. They were cast extra beefy so cracking was never really a concern. Best of all our costs were reduced so we could drop the price by $125. from the first generation version. Looking back though it wasn't a very good business decision for us to make these. It was a huge investment and took us over 4 years to sell only a fraction of our welded version.

With the renewed interest we are optimistic that we will reach the 40 pre-orders. The reason we are not flexible with the 40 commitments is we are not willing to risk company assets which could be directed to other viable products. Once we reach our goal though we do intend to manufacture slightly more headers then the 40 for our shelf stock. Price will most likely go up for those extra headers and there may be no option for an un-machined flange.

Chris-TU

[TRS 'Tona]

I'm gonna hate myself if I don't get in on this, so here goes...

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. 2.216VTurbo(I like the unmachined option for one of mine, I didn't think to ask gonna copy Loper on this one)
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. nvysion
8. Francois-
9. Moparzrule
10. moparmike1970
11. amoparacer
12. amoparacer
13. iangoround
14. xirocrtx
15. xirocrtx
16. 86seeS (undrilled flange)
17. chargerturbo87
18. pageophile
19. rgl10
20. iTurbo
21. Onlooker
22. Midniteracer1 (undrilled and untapped flange)
23. johnnyiroc
24. Midniteracer1(undrilled and untapped flange)
25. Dr. Johny Dodge
26. LaserDad
27. Banger68
28. Moparloper
29. Moparloper (Non drilled and tapped flange)
30. shellboy
31. Lancerman23
32. Zin (Unmachined flange)
33. 85Boostbox (undrilled and untapped flange)
34. Srt4maddness
35. Going4speed
36. The Pope
37. 88C/S
38. TRS 'Tona
39.
40.

[2.216VTurbo]

Now that you have that first post in six years outta the way TRS, let's see your 'Tona in another thread:eyebrows:

[TRS 'Tona]

I may get to that someday... :drum:

[Johnny]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. 2.216VTurbo(I like the unmachined option for one of mine, I didn't think to ask gonna copy Loper on this one)
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. nvysion
8. Francois-
9. Moparzrule
10. moparmike1970
11. amoparacer
12. amoparacer
13. iangoround
14. xirocrtx
15. xirocrtx
16. 86seeS (undrilled flange)
17. chargerturbo87
18. pageophile
19. rgl10
20. iTurbo
21. Onlooker
22. Midniteracer1
23. johnnyiroc
24. Midniteracer1
25. Dr. Johny Dodge
26. LaserDad
27. Banger68
28. Moparloper
29. Moparloper (Non drilled and tapped flange)
30. shellboy
31. Lancerman23
32. Zin (Unmachined flange)
33. 85Boostbox (Unmachined Flange)
34. Srt4maddness
35. Going4speed
36. The Pope
37. 88C/S
38. johnny
39.
40.

[Dr. Johny Dodge]

what happened to TRS 'TONA's name ? ^

[JohnnyIroc]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. 2.216VTurbo(I like the unmachined option for one of mine, I didn't think to ask gonna copy Loper on this one)
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. nvysion
8. Francois-
9. Moparzrule
10. moparmike1970
11. amoparacer
12. amoparacer
13. iangoround
14. xirocrtx
15. xirocrtx
16. 86seeS (undrilled flange)
17. chargerturbo87
18. pageophile
19. rgl10
20. iTurbo
21. Onlooker
22. Midniteracer1
23. johnnyiroc
24. Midniteracer1
25. Dr. Johny Dodge
26. LaserDad
27. Banger68
28. Moparloper
29. Moparloper (Non drilled and tapped flange)
30. shellboy
31. Lancerman23
32. Zin (Unmachined flange)
33. 85Boostbox (Unmachined Flange)
34. Srt4maddness
35. Going4speed
36. The Pope
37. 88C/S
38. johnny
39.TRS 'Tona
40.

[iTurbo]

Wowsers, so who wants to be the last on the list to get the ball rolling?

Very nice and thanks to all.

[midniteracer1]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. 2.216VTurbo(I like the unmachined option for one of mine, I didn't think to ask gonna copy Loper on this one)
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. nvysion
8. Francois-
9. Moparzrule
10. moparmike1970
11. amoparacer
12. amoparacer
13. iangoround
14. xirocrtx
15. xirocrtx
16. 86seeS (undrilled flange)
17. chargerturbo87
18. pageophile
19. rgl10
20. iTurbo
21. Onlooker
22. Midniteracer1
23. johnnyiroc
24. Midniteracer1
25. Dr. Johny Dodge
26. LaserDad
27. Banger68
28. Moparloper
29. Moparloper (Non drilled and tapped flange)
30. shellboy
31. Lancerman23
32. Zin (Unmachined flange)
33. 85Boostbox (Unmachined Flange)
34. Srt4maddness
35. Going4speed
36. The Pope
37. 88C/S
38. TRS 'Tona
39. Johnny
40.

[midniteracer1]

We need all 40 deposits to get the ball rolling. Remember that fellas!!

[x.Gen]

1. Deryk-
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. 2.216VTurbo(I like the unmachined option for one of mine, I didn't think to ask gonna copy Loper on this one)
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. nvysion
8. Francois-
9. Moparzrule
10. moparmike1970
11. amoparacer
12. amoparacer
13. iangoround
14. xirocrtx
15. xirocrtx
16. 86seeS (undrilled flange)
17. chargerturbo87
18. pageophile
19. rgl10
20. iTurbo
21. Onlooker
22. Midniteracer1
23. johnnyiroc
24. Midniteracer1
25. Dr. Johny Dodge
26. LaserDad
27. Banger68
28. Moparloper
29. Moparloper (Non drilled and tapped flange)
30. shellboy
31. Lancerman23
32. Zin (Unmachined flange)
33. 85Boostbox (Unmachined Flange)
34. Srt4maddness
35. Going4speed
36. The Pope
37. 88C/S
38. TRS 'Tona
39. Johnny
40. x.Gen

we're there. Chris was Wright :D, I was lurking waiting to see if you all still move on these group buys like the old folks on bingo night. so let's go already, I want this on my car THIS SEASON! :bounce2:

[Chris W]

we're there. Chris was Wright :D, I was lurking waiting to see if you all still move on these group buys like the old folks on bingo night. so let's go already, I want this on my car THIS SEASON! :bounce2:

:bounce2::bounce2:THANK YOU X.GEN for coming through for us. Let's see how quickly we can receive the deposits so we can get this thing going.:bounce2::bounce2:

A Hybrid Header Group Buy deposit item has been added to our site here:http://turbosunleashed.com/shop/cast-iron-hybrid-header-group-deposit-p-318.html.

Please place an order and don't forget to select configuration type in the drop down box if you would prefer Chrysler style Surfaced, Drilled and Tapped or Un-Machined. WE PREFER CREDIT CARD PAYMENTS. Our website may automatically add shipping but all Credit Card orders will be manually processed at $100. If you cannot order with CC and choose Pay Pal instead, payments are automatic so any shipping overage will be refunded within 24 hours. Balance of header payment ($375. plus shipping) would be required within 30 days of headers being completed or you forfeit your deposit. If TU can't produce headers in 3 months from when we receive the last deposit and anyone wants out the deposit is fully refundable. If anyone wants to bail out while we wait for the deposits to come in there will be no penalties other then the harassment you will receive from your peers. See my post # 23 in this thread for more information regarding pricing, etc. Hope that makes sense. If not ASK QUESTIONS.

You may post that you paid but DO NOT re-create the list and add "Paid" next to your name. From this point forward we will be posting the "Official" paid list so there is no confusion. Please be patient as we will update as often as possible through the day.

1. Deryk
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. 2.216VTurbo
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. nvysion
8. Francois
9. Moparzrule
10. moparmike1970
11. amoparacer
12. amoparacer
13. iangoround
14. xirocrtx
15. xirocrtx
16. 86seeS
17. chargerturbo87
18. pageophile
19. rgl10
20. iTurbo
21. Onlooker
22. Midniteracer1
23. johnnyiroc
24. Midniteracer1
25. Dr. Johny Dodge
26. LaserDad
27. Banger68
28. Moparloper
29. Moparloper
30. shellboy
31. Lancerman23
32. Zin
33. 85Boostbox
34. Srt4maddness
35. Going4speed
36. The Pope
37. 88C/S
38. TRS 'Tona
39. Johnny
40. x.Gen


SO, LET'S GET THIS GOING!!!!! WHO WILL BE THE FIRST TO PAY?!

Chris-TU

[going4speed]

cant get passed the delivery information page...hit continue and it just comes back to the same page?

[Chris W]

I increased the weight to 1lb from 0 lbs. try it now.

[iangoround]

http://i.imgur.com/7drHiqr.gif


But why is your checkout charging me shipping for a deposit?

[Chris W]

http://i.imgur.com/7drHiqr.gif


But why is your checkout charging me shipping for a deposit?


Our website is not set up for non-shippable items like deposits. Minimum weight is 1lb for each item. No worries though, as indicated above we process all Credit Card transactions manually so you will only be charged $100. If you choose to use PayPal, additional shipping charges will be refunded to you with 24 hours.

Thanks!

Chris-TU

[going4speed]

Yep it works now. Can you confirm that came in as standard chrysler flange?

[Dr. Johny Dodge]

deposit sent via pay pal
sorry , I'd use my c card but my insurance payment for this year didn't leave room to cover this just at this time

[iangoround]

Just sent the order in.

[2.216VTurbo]

I tried to pay but after 5 minutes of going round and round with your site I gave up. The site added or I fatfingered two spark plug wire sets that now are permanently imbedded in my cart. REMOVE item didn't work the first 3 times I tried it...

[Chris W]

Yep it works now. Can you confirm that came in as standard chrysler flange?

You did not include your screen name in the comment field, but, if you are from Woodlands, TX and your initials are FH it came through perfectly with a Chrysler Flanged turbine side. AND YOU WERE # 1 TO PAY! THANKS!



deposit sent via pay pal
sorry , I'd use my c card but my insurance payment for this year didn't leave room to cover this just at this time

No problem. Shipping overage has already been refunded to your PayPal account and you were #3 to pay! THANKS!


Just sent the order in.

Received!! You were #4! Thanks!


I tried to pay but after 5 minutes of going round and round with your site I gave up. The site added or I fatfingered two spark plug wire sets that now are permanently imbedded in my cart. REMOVE item didn't work the first 3 times I tried it...

Alan, Based on other customer's experiences I already have your problem figured out. Wait about 3 hours until you are fully sober and then give it another shot.


1. Deryk #8 PAID!
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. 2.216VTurbo
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. nvysion
8. Francois
9. Moparzrule #9 PAID!
10. moparmike1970
11. amoparacer
12. amoparacer
13. iangoround- #4 PAID!
14. xirocrtx
15. xirocrtx
16. 86seeS
17. chargerturbo87
18. pageophile
19. rgl10 #14 PAID!
20. iTurbo #15 PAID!
21. Onlooker #2 PAID!
22. Midniteracer1 #11 PAID!
23. johnnyiroc #13 PAID!
24. Midniteracer1 #12 PAID!
25. Dr. Johny Dodge #3 PAID!
26. LaserDad
27. Banger68 #10 PAID!
28. Moparloper
29. Moparloper
30. shellboy
31. Lancerman23
32. Zin
33. 85Boostbox
34. Srt4maddness #6 PAID!
35. Going4speed #1 PAID!!
36. The Pope #18 PAID!
37. 88C/S #16 PAID!
38. TRS 'Tona #5 PAID!
39. Johnny #7 PAID!
40. x.Gen
41. Moparmark1 #17 PAID!



Thanks!

Chris-TU

[MPI_duster]

Glad to see the money is coming in, lets keep it up. Anyone who is friends with anyone on the list get on them and be proactive.

[going4speed]

Yea that's me FH. Sorry about the not filling in the user name but yes I am from the woodlands.

Oh and I'm number #1 for something in my life for once.:o

[x.Gen]

Chris, not sure if anyone asked - if I decide after the deposit to add the coating, is that a problem?

[Chris W]

Chris, not sure if anyone asked - if I decide after the deposit to add the coating, is that a problem?

Not a problem. We have a thermal coating section on our website so that can be added at a later date. It's always best to test fit and clearance your header before it's coated though. Core shift can be present in any cast product which could require removal of header/intake material for proper fitment.

Thanks!

Chris-TU

[moparzrule]

Made my deposit Chris.

[Chris W]

Made my deposit Chris.


Added! Thanks Matt!

[banger68]

deposit paid

Get back to me before it ships? I will probably add some more items to the box. Pay duty once. :(

[Chris W]

deposit paid

Get back to me before it ships? I will probably add some more items to the box. Pay duty once. :(

Just let us know what other items you need when you pay the balance of the header.

THANKS for your payment!!

Chris-TU

[midniteracer1]

Paid 2x . Did it work?? . Thanks!!

[Chris W]

Paid 2x . Did it work?? . Thanks!!

Yes it did. Thanks for getting this in so quickly.

Chris-TU

[midniteracer1]

Yes it did. Thanks for getting this in so quickly.

Chris-TU
There is a guy who would like to jump in on this.. Would he be able to, or would he need to be on stand-by if somebody bails out? Maybe create a stand-by list??
Moparmark1 wants in..

[midniteracer1]

group buyers, please put down your deposit...12 have dropped down a deposit so far. Thanks!!!

[JohnnyIroc]

deposit sent.

[Chris W]

There is a guy who would like to jump in on this.. Would he be able to, or would he need to be on stand-by if somebody bails out? Maybe create a stand-by list??
Moparmark1 wants in..

He needs to contact me directly and I will add him to the list. If he can pay the deposit right away we can lock him in the Group Buy.

Thanks!

[midniteracer1]

He needs to contact me directly and I will add him to the list. If he can pay the deposit right away we can lock him in the Group Buy.

Thanks!
I notified him to call you...If hes serious, he will give you a buzz

[88C/S]

Just paid my deposit

[moparzrule]

Got my shipping refund back, that was quick. Thanks Chris.

[Chris W]

Just paid my deposit

Please place order on our website also. Select check/money order since you already paid.


Thanks!

[rgl10]

Deposit paid. Thanks in advance!

[midniteracer1]

Alan?? You sober yet!? come on , we need for you to beat on some ricers for us!!

[moparzrule]

Come on people, pay your deposits....not even 1/2 paid yet. :(

[JohnnyIroc]

updated deposite list?

[Chris W]

Updated!!

For those who have already paid I suggest you PM the members on the list that have not paid yet. We are ready to go on this end. We are about 1/2 way there.

Thanks!

Chris-TU

[MPI_duster]

Hey Chris,

Can we get an updated list of those who have/haven't paid, so the encouragement can begin?

[Johnny]

1. Deryk #8 PAID!
2. glhs875
3. daver
4. errol
5. 2.216VTurbo
6. 2.216VTurbo
7. nvysion
8. Francois
9. Moparzrule #9 PAID!
10. moparmike1970
11. amoparacer
12. amoparacer
13. iangoround- #4 PAID!
14. xirocrtx
15. xirocrtx
16. 86seeS
17. chargerturbo87
18. pageophile
19. rgl10 #14 PAID!
20. iTurbo #15 PAID!
21. Onlooker #2 PAID!
22. Midniteracer1 #11 PAID!
23. johnnyiroc #13 PAID!
24. Midniteracer1 #12 PAID!
25. Dr. Johny Dodge #3 PAID!
26. LaserDad
27. Banger68 #10 PAID!
28. Moparloper
29. Moparloper
30. shellboy
31. Lancerman23
32. Zin
33. 85Boostbox
34. Srt4maddness #6 PAID!
35. Going4speed #1 PAID!!
36. The Pope #18 PAID!
37. 88C/S #16 PAID!
38. TRS 'Tona #5 PAID!
39. Johnny #7 PAID!
40. x.Gen
41. Moparmark1 #17 PAID!

[Pageophile]

Will drop payment tomorrow :)

[glhs875]

Paid.

[86seeS]

Paid!

[2.216VTurbo]

Payment link on TU site yet Via Paypal?

[glhs875]

Payment link on TU site yet Via Paypal?

Yes. Type group buy in the search.

[Dr. Johny Dodge]

or just click on the headers in the left side collum , then on the header for this group buy
that will take you to the depost deal