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Johnny
09-08-2013, 09:14 PM
THIS INFO COULD BE DIFFERENT from early to late cars of course.


I will add them here and someday it can be a sticky.
I want to include part number where we can or at least what car they came from so you can go to any parts store and ask for and get the parts that will fit.


I found these to be true on my 1990 car:


1988 Daytona spindles front and rear
Brakes Front: 1988 Daytona 10 inch rotors.
Brakes rear: 1988 Pontiac Fiero rears
On these rears, I found on the calper's I bought, the metal sleeves where the bolts go through to hold the caliper to the knuckle were too small of diameter and I had to swap them. But is this the fault of the rebuilder or part of the conversion to get them to work on the FWD mopar knuckles?


Brake line part numbers are
RAYBESTOS Part # BH38045 front and rear right
RAYBESTOS Part # BH38046 front and rear left
These lines are late 80s K-car, Daytona, Shadow parts with the center bracket removed.

Power Brake Booster part #54-74100 ( this number good at most parts stores)

Tail lights 79-86 El Camino or Malibu wagon
Fuel Pump...#E2315 AirTech or NAPA P74015
Fuel filter is the same as the 1988 Daytona...WIX #33321...NAPA #3321...Purolator #F54617
in line fuel filter before the pump used NAPA Gold gas filter #3248 or CarQuest #CFI 86299

VDO Fuel Sender Unit = #226001

Headlights:
H4703 low beam
H4701 high beam
Dash lights are
11009

Steering column being from the Chrysler Daytona -Chrysler part #4326815
Outside door handles from Caravan/Daytona

WATER HOSE
the larger hose that connects to the water pump, that heads toward the rear of the car.
Found the NAPA hose #9124 works great. It needs cut to a shorter length.

For the knowledge base:
The Clutch Slave Cylinder is out of an '81 Datsun 310.........(frankencar!!!)
Gurling
5/8 bore #3502-.62
.70 bore #3502-.70
3/4 bore #3502-.75
(from Pegasus auto racing)

I bought mine and it was in a Dorman "First Stop" box, part number CS37494
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Windshield "WAS" made by Viracom and the code is C-368. So if the c stand for what I think it stands for we are in trouble!

http://www.viracon.com/
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Stock looking replacement mirrors are here...
http://www.talbotco.com/talbot_mirror.htm
Look at the "Baby Tornado" Flat Vitaloni, but these are just a little smaller and not electric.
Left #V5567
Right #V5521
Call and ask them, they dont show it but they do have replacement electric ones also.
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FRONT Shocks....
Fronts made by Carrera, part number 3254 (#225 3254)
this line is now owned by QA1
the front has a treaded aluminum sleeve over the shock to make it a coilover.
additional option…
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ARS 3366 NEW BILSTEIN SHOCK

ARS 1951 COILOVER KIT

ARS 10-700 FRONT SPRINGS

ARS 1951R SPRING ADJ.
NOTE: I was given these numbers (above) BUT Bilstein says they are not their numbers
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The rear shocks (my car): #180 90
Number on the shock is.... KL-A2-L2 2480204H OOO

The numbers on another 1991 car are: #180 180
KL-A1-L3 2490 201 H 000
These are Bilstein coil over shocks.
NEW Bilstein rear shocks are #F4-B46-0204-H0
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The door seals from a 1996-99 (maybe others) sliding side door
will fit the Consulier doors.
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Clutch master cylinder. The unit is a Girling .75" bore remote master cyl.
They do make replacements and rebuild kits if yours isn't too bad.
$125
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pr...p?Product=3502 (https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=3502)
$70
They do make a slightly smaller ( .70" bore ) replacement unit for just over half the cost of the original Girling unit:
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pr...oduct=3519-101 (https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=3519-101)
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In the door, the gear at the end of the motor that rolls the window up and down,
there are three small roller bushings made of some kind of plastic.
These go bad and then the window wont go back up. It just jumps...thump, thump thump!
These three bushing rollers are in the HELP! section of many parts stores....#74410.
If you want the gear and roller bushings....Dormin #747-411 or Cardone #82-94
If you need the wind motors…..
OEM part # 4336601 -- Drivers side -- DORMAN Part # 742305
OEM part # 4336600 -- Passenger side -- DORMAN Part # 742304
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Rack & Pinion rack #4333466 and now #4443425
Not sure how they did this as the FWD cars were power steering and the GTP is not.
This is from a 1988 Shelby Daytona
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Ball Joints
Moog #7147…forward and outer
Moog #7147…lower
OR Raybestos Chassis #505-1101

These are the press in style and are the same as a 1989 Caravan, etc)

NAPA 2601087 (260-1087)…upper
OR Raybestos Chassis #500-1014
Same as a AMC Javelin 1970-74

Rear of car inner tie rods....ES2133L
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VDO
VD120107 speedo
VD340011 speedo sensor
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The 120 mph speedo has superseded to #437-052
The 140 mph speedo has superseded to #437-053
The sender is the same for both…about $126 (didn't write down the part number)
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VD150061 turbo-boost gauge
VD226001 adj fuel sender
VD301015 fuel gauge
VD310012 temp gauge
VD310015 temp gauge trans
VD310039 temp gauge water
VD323050 temp sender trans
VD323057 oil temp sender
VD323095 water temp sender
VD331020 engine hour meter
VD332041 volt meter
VD333055 tachometer
VD360009 oil pressure sender and/or NAPA #701-1824
VD37021 clock
VD600-802 bulb
VD600-813 bulb sockets
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90 degree 5/8" heater hose, molded (NAPA) #9809

turbo2point2
09-09-2013, 06:50 AM
Thanks for the numbers Johnny, need to order one of those slave cylinders :thumb:

turbo2point2
09-20-2013, 09:44 AM
For the knowledge base:
The Clutch Slave Cylinder is out of an '81 Datsun 310.........(frankencar!!!)

Confirmed! Just ordered one and getting ready to install it...

Johnny
10-01-2013, 11:19 AM
VDO Fuel Sender Unit = 226001
This looks to be right, and $40 to $50 is all.

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I found one on ebay for $35 and that's with free shipping.

MPI_duster
10-05-2013, 07:30 PM
Yes Johnny, that's the correct part number for the fuel sender. I was just hoping on to post that up (i got a spare on from mosler).

Johnny
10-05-2013, 09:28 PM
Got it today! Will see about installing it tomorrow.

Johnny
10-07-2013, 02:39 PM
Shocks on the Consulier. Mine are tagged "Hyper-Charged" and have part number 3254 and P9045 stamped in them (fronts). Dont know the rear part number yet.
I found a place in Portland Oregon that rebuilds shocks, called him and said he has never heard of these.
Are your's the same on your GTP?
Have you looked into replacing or rebuilding yours?

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Just found out they were made by Carrera and then that line was sold to QA1 and those are still for sale.
Speedway Motors has the front shock listed as #225 3254 for the front.
Fronts are a shock with an aluminum sleeve to make it a coilover.

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Found the numbers on the rear shocks.
KL-A2-L2 2480204H 000

Have not found someone that knows this one.
It is a steel threaded housing.

Johnny
10-07-2013, 11:31 PM
Found another number on the rear shocks.
180 90
says Bilstein on them
They are 16-1/2" extended
11-1/4 inch compressed
spring is 10" long
and 2-1/2 OD

Johnny
10-08-2013, 11:24 AM
Talked to Bilstein this morning. These are rebuildable!!!! For about $125 each.
ALSO he is looking to find a part number he can give us that would be a good or
better replacement coilover shock in case we want new.

If you want to have yours rebuilt, here is a contact at Bilstein....
Juan Averez..PH 858-386-5926

I have not called yet, for some reason my phone lines are dead.

Johnny
10-08-2013, 08:47 PM
New discovery.
I had pulled the door seal from a 1996 Caravan sliding side door, thought I might use part of it for my targa convertible top. My cars door seals were taken off years ago (they were about to paint it)..
I tried this seal on my doors and they work perfect. Was 4 inches short for doing both doors. I got another seal today from a 1999 and it was the same.

MPI_duster
10-10-2013, 03:56 PM
New discovery.
I had pulled the door seal from a 1996 Caravan sliding side door, thought I might use part of it for my targa convertible top. My cars door seals were taken off years ago (they were about to paint it)..
I tried this seal on my doors and they work perfect. Was 4 inches short for doing both doors. I got another seal today from a 1999 and it was the same.

That's good to know, I wish there was a better way to seal the windows to the door. I know it's not a problem you have Johnny

player1up
10-16-2013, 10:18 AM
Aaron called me yesterday saying his clutch master cyl was leaking inside the car. After some research on his part, it turns out the cyl bore is corroded beyond rebuilding. The unit is a Girling .75" bore remote master cyl.
They do make replacements and rebuild kits if yours isn't as bad as his was.
$125
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=3502
$70
They do make a slightly smaller ( .70" bore ) replacement unit for just over half the cost of the original Girling unit:
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=3519-101

I've got the part number for the power window motors, but I've got it on my home PC, so I'll have to post when I get home. It appears to be a stock unit from 80-92 Chrysler, but be careful when looking it up, the motor heads are different depending on what car it came from.
My drivers window gear is stripped due to the felt in the window channel bunching up at the bottom and the someone running the window down repeatedly against the blockage...
The regulator seems to be some stock unit as well ( there are teeth that are welded to stop the motor from rolling up too far ), but not sure from what just yet.

Johnny
10-16-2013, 10:32 AM
Thank you! I added it to the parts list above.

On the widows. I always thought the 80's mopar's electric widows used that track style. The Consulier uses a motor that drives a gear.
I am also interested in this, as my passenger side skips going up. Acting like it might go out soon.

player1up
10-16-2013, 01:07 PM
From the pictures on Rockauto, it looks like one of the motors for an 85 labaron ( fronts, not rear ), but I'll have to finish taking it apart to make sure it's the correct one.
The motor is bolted to the regulator and the regulator is bolted to the inside of the door hinge, but the regulator has to be unbolted from the hinge to get to one of the bolts that holds the motor.

Dorman 742305 Front left and 742304 front right....NOT to be confused for 742348 and 742347 which have some sort of odd head on the motor.

It also looks like the motor has some sort of clutch inside the gear that would cause the clunk,clunk behavior.

The gear is also available:
Dorman 747411
Cardone select 8492
A-1 Cardone 4294

Part number on the driver window motor is 4336601

Johnny
11-07-2013, 07:00 PM
I added a bunch of part numbers above.

Johnny
02-12-2014, 05:15 PM
Found out today on my rear shock rebuild. I asked if I wanted new ones, what the price is and part number.
#F4-B46-0204-H0
$243 each

Chris W
02-13-2014, 04:28 PM
I've got the part number for the power window motors, but I've got it on my home PC, so I'll have to post when I get home. It appears to be a stock unit from 80-92 Chrysler, but be careful when looking it up, the motor heads are different depending on what car it came from.
My drivers window gear is stripped due to the felt in the window channel bunching up at the bottom and the someone running the window down repeatedly against the blockage...
The regulator seems to be some stock unit as well ( there are teeth that are welded to stop the motor from rolling up too far ), but not sure from what just yet.

Did you post the motor part numbers yet? Wasn't sure if I just missed it. My passenger side is bad and need to replace.

Thanks in advance!

Chris-TU

player1up
02-14-2014, 10:16 AM
Did you post the motor part numbers yet? Wasn't sure if I just missed it. My passenger side is bad and need to replace.

Thanks in advance!

Chris-TU
Chris, I posted them in a dedicated thread.
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?72961-Power-window-refresh-info
Mine still had the part number stickers on them.

Including them here:
OEM part # 4336601 -- Drivers side -- DORMAN Part # 742305
OEM part # 4336600 -- Passenger side -- DORMAN Part # 742304

Thanks for the reminder

168glhs1986
02-14-2014, 12:35 PM
Found out today on my rear shock rebuild. I asked if I wanted new ones, what the price is and part number.
#F4-B46-0204-H0
$243 each

Johnny, this part # is different that the part number above. Is this one correct?

Johnny
02-14-2014, 01:56 PM
Both. The number above was on the shock. Old number I guess.
When I asked them about rebuilding mine, I also asked about new ones and
this number #F4-B46-0204-H0... is the number you would use to order new ones.
But it would take longer to get the new ones, as they said it is a custom build-to-order.

ForzaV12
02-25-2014, 10:37 AM
any one figure out what the gas cap is from(some Mopar I'm sure). Mine is bad and after replacing all the fuel lines, sender,etc chasing a gas smell, I realized it was the cap.

player1up
02-25-2014, 11:01 AM
pretty sure it's 84 turismo

Motorad MGC789
Dayco 84789
There is a locking version... Stant G-789 10589 ;)

ForzaV12
02-25-2014, 12:45 PM
Thanks!

Johnny
04-14-2014, 05:19 PM
Just got this.......
This is for the front shocks for the GTP.

QA1 acquired Carrera in 2004. The replacement for the 32 Series Carrera shocks would be the 75 Series, part number 7554.
I does say 7554 on the box, but on the shock it says Q12516....CARRERA...Made in Mexico

Johnny
07-10-2014, 01:06 PM
This is kind of a big deal to me.
I took my GTP drive axle to a very good CV axle shop.

He took it apart and measured it.
It is within 1/16" of a Caravan axle.
So why did they do the weld on piece?
Did they not realize then, that a Caravan axle was the same as they were making from what ever they made these from?

Anyway, he is rebuilding mine for $100 and also making me a new one using a quality shaft for $100.
So I will have a spare.

He said he can make the shaft from chrome moly making the cost for each axle at $400.
If the shaft is the weak point.

If the joint becomes the issue he can use 930 Porsche joints and the cost is over $1000 per axle.

Me, I am going to run these until I see any issues happening.

Rrider
07-10-2014, 01:10 PM
Thats great! Check the box on yet another easy to get part.

So when does she hit the 1320??

Johnny
07-10-2014, 01:59 PM
Easy to get but buying "good" ones is not as easy.
This place builds nice quality parts, not getting the $59 import stuff.

1320?

168glhs1986
07-10-2014, 02:26 PM
1320?

That's racer speak for 1/4 mile Johnny.

Johnny
07-10-2014, 02:51 PM
Really....never heard of that. Must be the foot distance?

player1up
07-10-2014, 04:33 PM
This is kind of a big deal to me.
I took my GTP drive axle to a very good CV axle shop.

He took it apart and measured it.
It is within 1/16" of a Caravan axle.
So why did they do the weld on piece?
Did they not realize then, that a Caravan axle was the same as they were making from what ever they made these from?

Anyway, he is rebuilding mine for $100 and also making me a new one using a quality shaft for $100.
So I will have a spare.

He said he can make the shaft from chrome moly making the cost for each axle at $400.
If the shaft is the weak point.

If the joint becomes the issue he can use 930 Porsche joints and the cost is over $1000 per axle.

Me, I am going to run these until I see any issues happening.

Is this the passenger or driver side axle that matches the caravan? or both sides? what year caravan?

Rrider
07-10-2014, 05:26 PM
Yes feet, Im real curious what mph/ET Barbie will do with that conservatively improved 8v. I'm not bigtime enough to do say, a 500hp powerplant like SOME folks are.. :P

Johnny
07-10-2014, 06:30 PM
Is this the passenger or driver side axle that matches the caravan? or both sides? what year caravan?

He didn't say, but I would think about the same years...1988-1994

Johnny
07-10-2014, 07:36 PM
To get an axle for a Consulier (same as Caravan) that is quality:

Automotive Drivetrain12533 S.W. Main St.
Tigard Oregon 97223

Guy is JR
ph: 503-639-9476


web site....
http://www.automotive-drivetrain.com (http://www.automotive-drivetrain.com/)

Johnny
07-15-2014, 06:54 PM
BRAKES!

As you know the rear brakes are 1988 Fiero.
I wanted better rear braking so was checking into pads that would grip a little better.
Was told EBC made good ones. (A Fiero racing guy told me they love these)
Checked with the company and they looked up the part number for the "yellow"
....it is DP4325R.

Most places list the "green" but I was
told the yellow grip better and the companies that sell EBC never list it.

So am sharing what I found out.
I ordered them, should have them in a few days.

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I ordered them from
AutoAccessoriesGarage.com

168glhs1986
07-15-2014, 07:21 PM
If you want to change your brakes over to Wilwood.

If you change your rear spindles to std Daytona like the front you can call TCE performance in Arizona.

They made custom caliper brackets and have them filed away in their shop if Consulier owner would ever want to replicate what I have.

We know this caliper setup will clear my Enkie RFP1 16" wheels but not sure about your wheels.

The whole setup including pads was just under $2400 shipped

Johnny
07-22-2014, 11:44 PM
If you need better rear brakes, I was told these work well.
I will install them and let you know.

Johnny
07-29-2014, 09:58 AM
Drivers side drive axle is the same as a Caravan.
BUT the passenger side is not.
Its longer. They are not the same length.

Johnny
07-29-2014, 10:04 AM
Heavier springs for the Consulier if interested.

https://blu174.mail.live.com/Handlers/ImageProxy.mvc?bicild=&canary=BAP3IuihXx4Lpx6lIKr5N9In%2fN1NCiKx%2f%2bg4d P%2fhM1Q%3d0&url=http%3a%2f%2fstatic.summitracing.com%2femail%2 ftransactional%2fimages%2fspacer.gifQA1 Coil Springs (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HAL-9-450)
HAL-9-450...450lb springs for the front


https://blu174.mail.live.com/Handlers/ImageProxy.mvc?bicild=&canary=BAP3IuihXx4Lpx6lIKr5N9In%2fN1NCiKx%2f%2bg4d P%2fhM1Q%3d0&url=http%3a%2f%2fstatic.summitracing.com%2femail%2 ftransactional%2fimages%2fspacer.gifQA1 Coil Springs (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HAL-9-450)
HAL-9-550...450lb springs for the rear
Or use the 450's for front and rear.
Stock were 350 on all points I was told.

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Adjustable coil-over shocks.

HAL-DS401 (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HAL-DS401)
Coil-Over Shock, Proma Star, Twin-Tube, 14.000 in. Extended, 10.125 in. Collapsed,(Mfr. #: DS401)
From summit.

These work on the rear and should also fit the front.https://blu174.mail.live.com/Handlers/ImageProxy.mvc?bicild=&canary=BAP3IuihXx4Lpx6lIKr5N9In%2fN1NCiKx%2f%2bg4d P%2fhM1Q%3d0&url=http%3a%2f%2fstatic.summitracing.com%2femail%2 ftransactional%2fimages%2fspacer.gif2

Johnny
08-09-2014, 12:31 AM
added this:

Power Brake Booster part #54-74100 ( this number good at most parts stores)

DaveSkrab
08-09-2014, 09:53 AM
Do we know what master cylinder we use with it? I'm guessing a 4wheel disc daytona?

Johnny
08-09-2014, 01:26 PM
That's what I put on mine last year. Forgot to record the info.

Johnny
10-05-2014, 11:01 PM
Locking gas cap.
Might be Stant or Robertshaw brand
#10589 or G-789

Confirmed, these fit.

Johnny
10-27-2014, 11:05 PM
Better lighting options for the brake light.

Philips (12899RX2) Red P21/5W LED Exterior Bulb - in place of the 1157 rear bulb
You will need to use this flasher.....

Tridon EL12 Flasher

player1up
03-06-2015, 05:22 PM
FYI, Looks like the "DD" prefix for the A/C parts on the list is for Danhard Inc. http://www.danhard.com/
They still use some of the same part numbers AND they still sell the stuff!!


I had my accelerator pedal break a couple of days ago. The parts list only specifies GM pedal w/ extras.
It's a Fiero pedal and "the Fiero store" sells them with the spring for $6 Part # 50160 ACCEL

Johnny
08-18-2015, 11:08 PM
REAR of car tie rod ends.
The inner is ES2133L, got one at AutoZone for $9.99. It fits a 1984 Mazda GLC.
The outer tie rod looks to be the same as a late 80's Daytona, etc....but have not replaced it to be sure.

Johnny
09-28-2017, 10:48 AM
Series one wiper blade arm....
"its a 1983-91 bmw e30 wiper arm. The part number on the inside of the plastic bolt cover is 190888 and has a logo SWF.
The one on my car has a casting mark from '87".

player1up

Thrillz
02-19-2018, 03:04 AM
If you're looking for parts for the rear fiero brakes I just found a site that you can get anything you need.

www.fierostore.com

Johnny
02-19-2018, 02:13 PM
Great place to get parts. When I needed mine, my local NAPA got them for me....but that was 4 years ago.

player1up
02-21-2018, 11:01 AM
oops double post for the accelerator pedal, forgot I already posted it

Johnny
03-25-2021, 10:02 AM
WATER HOSE
the larger hose that connects to the water pump, that heads toward the rear of the car.
Found the NAPA hose #9124 works great. It needs cut to a shorter length.