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nvysion
03-13-2013, 07:39 AM
Hello,
I must change my daily driver car and was thinking buying a PT cruiser with a 2.4L turbo engine with the idea of using it later in my 89 Shadow.
I live in france and the only chrysler 2.4L engines are found on the Voyager (NA engines) with a lot of kilometers (200 000km to 300 000 km) and PT cruiser (NA and turbo).

So I would like to know what is involved to :
1/ put a 2.4L a 16V head in the 2.5L engine
2/ put a 2.4L NA engine (3/ put a 2.4L turbo engine (change the turbo

1/ requires : timing belts, sprockets, water noses, intake and exhaust manifolds, ... ?
You keep the stock trans and harness.

2/ and 3/ requires : rods, pistons, turbo (bigger ?), intake and exhaust manifolds, new engine supports, ... ?
Can you keep the stock trans ?
Do you need a new engine harness or you can use the old but with some modifications (distributor) ?

What is the easiest way ?
What engine will support the most HP ?

If swaping a SRT4 engines require a few mods I will buy a PT cruiser to use it later in my Shadow.

Is there a real advantage of an 2.4L swap vs a 2.2 or 2.5L engine with a custom intake, big 8V head and an hexhaust header, which I think will be cheaper ?

Thanks

tryingbe
03-13-2013, 09:21 AM
I must change my daily driver car

Why? What's wrong with your current 2.5L now?

nvysion
03-13-2013, 11:11 AM
Hi Harry,
I'm not sure if my A413 trans is in good shape, but that is not the object of this thread.
I don't use the shadow as a dayly driver, only during the weekend.

I would like to replace my fiat which needs some work with an another car and I was thinking of a turbo pt cruiser with the idea of using the engine later in my shadow
But I will choose this route if only the engine swap is "friendly"

Louis

fixit
03-13-2013, 11:58 AM
The 16v heads flows better (http://users.erols.com/srweiss/tablehdc.htm#Chrysler) 2.2-8v@.500= 165/123 2.4-16v@500= 234/171

The block is a tougher choice - 2.4 vs 2.2 vs 2.5, and i think electronics (ignition/fuel) is the biggest consideration

it's not to difficult to get 2.4 into the 400's (search and you'll find a bunch of 600-700 dyno runs), it will need a strap kit for high hp, motor mounts.. megasquirt (or head mounted distributor w/chip), don't forget to use the SRT oil pump (more volume), oil cooler w/big filter (extra spacers), arp head & strap -- and the nice to have oil squirters

2.5 will require cam gears, chip, plumbing(blocking oil passageways).. searching around i found a couple 400-500's (http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?19093-FWD-Dyno-Cal-2.5L-16V-DOHC-Hybrid)

final note: i haven't made it to the dyno (yet) with by built srt but it is fun running >25lbs & e85

GLHNSLHT2
03-13-2013, 07:07 PM
the 2.4 turbo is the easiest and most cost affective way to go 16v. Bolts up to our trans with the exception of 1 bolt. Rbryant makes an adapter. The pass mount is documented as well. Then it's just getting the thing wired up and a cal for it and go.

tryingbe
03-13-2013, 07:23 PM
Hi Harry,
I'm not sure if my A413 trans is in good shape, but that is not the object of this thread.



I see.

I'd go with whatever you can get parts for easier, consider you're in France, that's going a big deciding factor.

nvysion
03-14-2013, 03:32 AM
Thanks

If I go with the 2.4 turbo :
Can you still use the original harness with a 89 custom ECU ?
How about the trans-axles ?