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86lance
08-02-2006, 09:56 PM
Im pretty sure everyones heard of this topic before but oh well. My daytona is in need of new suspension....all of it. I want to do coil overs on the front and just kyb gr'2's in the rear. Has anyone adapted a cheapie EBAY coil over kit onto a stock set of struts. Say like the gabriel heavy duty units? I dont want to shell out the cash for a set of konis only to cut them up to shreds. Thanks
BadAssPerformance
08-02-2006, 10:55 PM
Which ebay ones ya looking at?

Are you going to road race it?
86lance
08-02-2006, 11:25 PM
most likely not road race maybe just to the strip once or twice a year and around town driving
BadAssPerformance
08-02-2006, 11:51 PM
Coil overs might be overkill and just make it ride like crap then.

OneLapChamp Mike Stimac told me years ago that for street use the Koni's aer great but not even needed. I have a set of the KYB's on the front of the Z and they work good.
86lance
08-03-2006, 04:42 PM
hmm well if i can get away with it cheap and easy thats always good but its also cool to say your car has coilovers,lol j/k
87glhs232
08-03-2006, 06:55 PM
I have the GR2's in the front of my car, and they seem fine for spirtited street driving.
86lance
08-03-2006, 08:36 PM
i think a good set of struts might be the way for me to go
travis_k
08-05-2006, 01:21 PM
KYB GR2 struts are really not very good. You would be better off buying the konis and keeping your stock springs.
86lance
08-05-2006, 01:36 PM
konies are $$$ though
BadAssPerformance
08-05-2006, 01:40 PM
Stiffer springs add stiffness, dampers (shocks/struts) change the timing of the reaction... so really you need both for best performance.

The '87 CSX's came with the Monroe GP struts/shocks which are good but I havn't seen them available.

Koni's are big bucks but they do come with a lifetime warranty.

Depends on what you are doing with the car. For a driver and street car that wont see an AutoX or road course, Koni's are nice but not needed.
travis_k
08-06-2006, 11:19 AM
The red konis are still really just normal stock replacement struts. KYB GR2s, Monroe Sensatracs, etc are just cheap replacements, but the bilstien front struts and gas adjust rear shocks are supposed to be decent. For a serious autocross car with springs other than stock, there really arent any readily availailable struts that are valved stiff enough.
BadAssPerformance
08-06-2006, 12:18 PM
+1 to Bilstien... most under-rated brand out there.
87glhs232
08-06-2006, 01:21 PM
Bilstien factory is only 15 miles from me. May pay them a visit. When I worked at an offroad race shop, Bilstien and Fox were the top shocks.
Austrian Dodge
08-06-2006, 02:33 PM
sorry to kinda hijack that thread, you can also pm me

i'm looking for coilovers for a g-body (building the car as a roadracer), but i can't find them! either konis or bilstein, both have good reps over here!
BadAssPerformance
08-06-2006, 03:41 PM
Might be able to adapt something from Ground Control
Austrian Dodge
08-06-2006, 06:11 PM
Might be able to adapt something from Ground Control

ok, now if you please tell me, what that is :D
BadAssPerformance
08-06-2006, 09:52 PM
ok, now if you please tell me, what that is :D

http://www.ground-control-store.com/
WickedShelby88
08-07-2006, 04:28 AM
+1 for ground control
Austrian Dodge
08-07-2006, 10:22 AM
thanks... ;)

edit: am i completely blind? haven't found anything for TDs
travis_k
08-07-2006, 01:02 PM
Call them up and ask. I know people have used their stuff before.
BadAssPerformance
08-07-2006, 01:19 PM
thanks... ;)

edit: am i completely blind? haven't found anything for TDs

they dont off the shelf...


Might be able to adapt something from Ground Control
Austrian Dodge
08-07-2006, 07:42 PM
aah alright

I'll give them a call after holidays ;)
BadAssPerformance
08-07-2006, 07:44 PM
aah alright

I'll give them a call after holidays ;)

What holidays?
GLHSKEN
08-07-2006, 07:46 PM
All of Europe takes august off. Not here!!!
BadAssPerformance
08-07-2006, 07:47 PM
thats awesome... whats the occation? Augustoberfest?
Austrian Dodge
08-08-2006, 10:50 AM
:lol: hahaha

well i'm going to canada and the US for 3 weeks on 25th august, so thats my augustoberfest :thumb:

we can take 5 weeks off per year :nod:
turbovanmanČ
08-08-2006, 04:01 PM
DO NOT BUY the Ebay coilovers, they are absolute garbage, made of very cheap and thin materials and I wouldn't put them on my enemy's car. I have seen them up close and its scary.

I have some Bilstein coil overs that I will be installing soon with Eibach springs.

Bilstein as mentioned, Gabriel VST's are good, as are Sensa-Trac if you don't lower the car.
Austrian Dodge
08-08-2006, 04:56 PM
thanks for the advice simon...
i'd probably just like to lower the COG about 1" or slightly more.

basically i need to do some research, because next year suspension and brakes are goal #1
turbovanmanČ
08-08-2006, 05:38 PM
thanks for the advice simon...
i'd probably just like to lower the COG about 1" or slightly more.

basically i need to do some research, because next year suspension and brakes are goal #1

No problem, honestly, what do you expect when there $9.99, :eek: lol! :p
Reaper1
08-14-2006, 11:50 PM
Sensa-Tracs SUCK!!! I HATE those damn things! The jounce is WAY too harsh and there's not enough rebound controlIMHO. It made my Daytona ride and handle like garbage! WAY too overpriced also. I'd go with Bilsteins though...that's a good product!

From experience the GR2's don't have enough rebound control for stiffer springs, they tend to bouncy a little, but the ride is decent. I also experienced a problem with them raising the ride height of the front of the car. I am using 1989 Daytona Shelby springs in a 1989 LeBaron with GR2's and all new KYB hardware...I had to use srping clamps to get the car to the height it was supposed to be!