Anyone know where to get a PT Cruiser turbo converter?

[turbovanman²]

Looking for one for a reasonable price, anyone have any contacts? Tips?

Would like to see how it compares to a stock 8 valve turbo LU converter, :nod:

[glhs0426]

IIRC the old # supercedes to the new #. I'll confirm Monday.

[turbovanman²]

Thanks.

[83rampage]

I saw an 01 PT Cruiser in Calgary picknpull the other day. Probably be there a couple more weeks if you happen to be in the area.

[turbovanman²]

Yeah, driving out there, not worth it, thanks though.

[shadow88]

C'mon, once you're over the mountains, it's a really a nice drive :)

[Rampage16V]

01 wouldn't be a turbo.
As far as I know lock up high stall is pretty much the same 2.5 mitz 41TE 90 and newer turbo auto and pt turbo. Also dohc neon auto. Stall is about the same. Pt uses the bigger flex plate like a turbo 2.2.

[turbovanman²]

01 wouldn't be a turbo.
As far as I know lock up high stall is pretty much the same 2.5 mitz 41TE 90 and newer turbo auto and pt turbo. Also dohc neon auto. Stall is about the same. Pt uses the bigger flex plate like a turbo 2.2.

I am looking for a turbo converter, ;)

N/A Neon stall is 2500, been there, got the badge. :banghead:

[Rampage16V]

Looking for one for a reasonable price, anyone have any contacts? Tips?

Would like to see how it compares to a stock 8 valve turbo LU converter, :nod:


dohc neon is 3300 like a turbo lock up so is the 2.5 mitz 41TE( used in a turbo application....rampage was 3800)

[zin]

So am I to assume the 3 and 4 speed auto's converters interchange?...

Do you know what the "rated" stall is for a PT and how confident are you with durability?...

Mike

[glhs0426]

PT Turbo converter is a different p/n than a 1992 2.5L T1 converter. It has gone to a reman part from Chrysler, so, a core would be required. List is $308.33 with a core needed, otherwise $100 more. P/N R5093888AE. The part is exclusive to the PT turbo 2003-2009.

[turbovanman²]

dohc neon is 3300 like a turbo lock up so is the 2.5 mitz 41TE( used in a turbo application....rampage was 3800)

The Neon converter is rated at 2500, so are you rating it behind a turbo car or on a Neon? I've confirmed thru my van its good for 3000 rpm but that's with a GT35R and on stock Neon's, its 2500 dead nuts even.


So am I to assume the 3 and 4 speed auto's converters interchange?...

Do you know what the "rated" stall is for a PT and how confident are you with durability?...

Mike

Yes, they are supposed to swap and don't forget PT Converters are rated for more power than our converters are rated for.


PT Turbo converter is a different p/n than a 1992 2.5L T1 converter. It has gone to a reman part from Chrysler, so, a core would be required. List is $308.33 with a core needed, otherwise $100 more. P/N R5093888AE. The part is exclusive to the PT turbo 2003-2009.

Thanks.

[zin]

Yes, they are supposed to swap and don't forget PT Converters are rated for more power than our converters are rated for.

This is what I was thinking, sounds like it'll be the hot ticket for a higher stall converter @ J/Y prices! Good thing its a lock-up though...

Speaking of lock-up, I'd sure love it to do a multi-disc lock-up clutch for our cars, that way we could delay the lock-up and maintain high boost in higher gears without worrying about throwing clutch garbage though your trans... But I've got more pressing fish to fry, like getting into a position where the clutch can become a problem!

Mike

[turbovanman²]

This is what I was thinking, sounds like it'll be the hot ticket for a higher stall converter @ J/Y prices! Good thing its a lock-up though...

Speaking of lock-up, I'd sure love it to do a multi-disc lock-up clutch for our cars, that way we could delay the lock-up and maintain high boost in higher gears without worrying about throwing clutch garbage though your trans... But I've got more pressing fish to fry, like getting into a position where the clutch can become a problem!

Mike

A guy in New Brunswick makes a billet LU converter, but last I heard, its already slipping and he's put not much power thru it yet. I would love to LU in 2nd and 3rd, would be the best of both worlds, like Diesel TC's, :nod:

[glhs0426]

I've been thinking about a multi-disc converter, and in my conversation with a manufacturer I was told there was not enough room for the stack. This got me thinking. The 62TE uses a "pancake" converter which could be used along with a multi-disc LU clutch stack. When Rob gets done with the 41TE project, I'll talk more with the conveter guy.

[turbovanman²]

I've been thinking about a multi-disc converter, and in my conversation with a manufacturer I was told there was not enough room for the stack. This got me thinking. The 62TE uses a "pancake" converter which could be used along with a multi-disc LU clutch stack. When Rob gets done with the 41TE project, I'll talk more with the conveter guy.

Keep us updated please.

[zin]

...like Diesel TC's, :nod:

This is exactly what I was thinking, the tech/materials are there to deal with that kind of torque, so this should be cake... But, I'm still light years from it being a priority...

Mike

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I've been thinking about a multi-disc converter, and in my conversation with a manufacturer I was told there was not enough room for the stack. This got me thinking. The 62TE uses a "pancake" converter which could be used along with a multi-disc LU clutch stack. When Rob gets done with the 41TE project, I'll talk more with the converter guy.

I'm not familiar with the term "pancake" as it applies to a converter, but it does give you a pretty good visual idea of what it is... I suppose the real limitation is the space between the pump seal and the flexplate, or the back of the block if you don't mind a custom flex plate... If a custom converter were to be built, I suppose you could even integrate the flex plate if that would buy you the space needed for a better design. I do prefer to keep with factory configurations for interchangeability, but improved functionality and performance definitely trumps familiarity/commonality.

Mike

[turbovanman²]

Well dang, more research and looks like they only stall at 2000 rpm, yikes, :wow1:

[shadow88]

I don;t remember from driving one where they sat, but with that tiny td04 turbo, they didn't need much of a running start to get things moving.

[turbovanman²]

I don;t remember from driving one where they sat, but with that tiny td04 turbo, they didn't need much of a running start to get things moving.

From what I've read, it was more for efficiency, less stall equals more forward motion with less gas.

[zin]

Well.. if they are indeed built stronger, which makes some sense give the harsher environment they expect them to live in, a converter shop should be able to mix and match some parts to get a "factory" higher stall converter...

Mike

[turbovanman²]

Well.. if they are indeed built stronger, which makes some sense give the harsher environment they expect them to live in, a converter shop should be able to mix and match some parts to get a "factory" higher stall converter...

Mike

That's what I am thinking, going to chat with TCS next week.

[Rampage16V]

I had pat's converters make me up a converter for my rampage. Using mis matched converter pieces. Works great and was cheap too. Let me know if you want the number. 610 237 6900 ask for steve

[turbovanman²]

I had pat's converters make me up a converter for my rampage. Using mis matched converter pieces. Works great and was cheap too. Let me know if you want the number. 610 237 6900 ask for steve

Thanks, I might do that, but TCS likes helping me out, so we'll see after race season is over, IE next week, I know without the cams, this converter is just too loose now, :(

[turbovanman²]

I had pat's converters make me up a converter for my rampage. Using mis matched converter pieces. Works great and was cheap too. Let me know if you want the number. 610 237 6900 ask for steve

Got that number handy? Tired of burning up expensive converters, on a tiny budget, otherwise van won't be out this year. :(

[turbovanman²]

so is the 2.5 mitz 41TE( used in a turbo application....rampage was 3800)

How much boost did it take to flash up to 3800?

Looking for a reasonable alternative.

[A.J.]

How much boost did it take to flash up to 3800?

Looking for a reasonable alternative.

Hey Simon, are you looking for a LU or non-LU? I ordered the 10" converter for my 2.5 wagon. If you have time you might want to wait until I get this adapted and running if you're going LU to prevent what happened to your 9" Hughes converter. My 10" Suncoast converter with 3500 stall ran me about $350. Cheaper and BETTER than Hughes.

[turbovanman²]

I am looking for a non LU. Its not my daily driver anymore so I don't care about highway revs. Chris is contacting Hugh's to see if they can rework my LU unit, if not, I'll just buy a stocker, just has to last the season, going 5 speed for next year. Just want to get the van out this summer. You have a non LU you want to get rid of?

[A.J.]

I am looking for a non LU. Its not my daily driver anymore so I don't care about highway revs. Chris is contacting Hugh's to see if they can rework my LU unit, if not, I'll just buy a stocker, just has to last the season, going 5 speed for next year. Just want to get the van out this summer. You have a non LU you want to get rid of?

I just recycled all my old non-LU because they were taking up space and I needed to down size. They were all out of cars so the stall would have been 3000-3300.

[turbovanman²]

Gotcha, thanks anyhow. Get your tune figured out yet?

[A.J.]

Gotcha, thanks anyhow. Get your tune figured out yet?

I think so. Going to the track tomorrow so I'll find out.

[turbovanman²]

So, what did you find? :eyebrows:

[black86glhs]

Hey Simon, did you ever think to look in a PT turbo for that torque converter?:thumb:

[turbovanman²]

Hey Simon, did you ever think to look in a PT turbo for that torque converter?:thumb:

I did, found them but they are a low stall converter, :p

[black86glhs]

My job is done! Lol

[Ondonti]

I did, found them but they are a low stall converter, :p

Sounds perfect. What RPM?

[turbovanman²]

Thanks Bryan, go have some Pizza.

Brent, for a daily driver I agree. When I ran the Neon converter, it was awesome around town, gobs of off idle power, midrange was great, best MPG I ever got BUT could not spool my turbo brake standing. If I wasn't racing, that would be the TC of choice.

Oh, I got the Neon to flash up around 3200 ish, which just wouldn't let me spool the turbo at the line.

[zin]

I haven't looked into it that much, but I've had some customers buy solenoids to dump fluid from the converter circuit so they could build boost... Now, keep in mind these are heavy-hitter Pro-Mod type set-ups, so maybe it's only going to work on a race built trans, but the thought occurs to me that if this mod would make the converter flash higher, it might let a "low stall" (higher efficiency) converter spool a turbo until the trans-break was released.

Maybe someone more familiar with the inner workings of our slush-boxes can provide some in-sight?...

Mike

[Vigo]

PT Turbo converter is a different p/n than a 1992 2.5L T1 converter.

They got rid of the one offset converter lug after like 98. I wouldn't be surprised if that was basically the only difference.

I ran a stock neon converter in a 3.0 van once and it stalled around 3k. Stock non-lu turbo converter in my srt4 van stalls above 4k when brake boosting. I hate it.