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Johnny
03-02-2011, 07:14 PM
The 1979-1989 ( and some of 1990) passenger side engine mounts.
I have been making them, having them sandblasted, then powder coating the outside.
We have to mask the inside so powder coat doesn't get in there.

My question, if I make it out of stainless, would you like it or not?
Would not be black like stock.
It will cost more for the steel, but could take off the price of sandblasting and powder coating. SO they would not be much more than the price they are now.
http://polybushings.com/images/passmount.jpg

turbovanmanČ
03-02-2011, 08:18 PM
If I needed one, stainless would be nice, more bling baby, :partywoot:

cordes
03-02-2011, 08:24 PM
If it were only a couple dollars difference in price I would go for the SS.

Johnny
03-03-2011, 02:09 PM
Only three opinions?

zin
03-03-2011, 05:04 PM
I'll toss in a positive as well... Funny, I've run into the same thing with some of the products I make. Plating/prep costing as much (or more) than a material upgrade!

As to the color, it would be easy enough to paint it, if bare stainless wasn't what one wants.

Mike

Reeves
03-03-2011, 05:11 PM
Aluminum so it's lighter!!! :)

Dave
03-03-2011, 08:49 PM
Bling bling motha f*********!!!!!

+1 for it Johnny. Maybe even a trans mount too? ;) j/k

Juggy
03-04-2011, 02:08 PM
i think it would be too much, and it would attract more attention to the mount then the rest of the motor....unless you happen to have everything else polished to match lol...

Johnny
03-04-2011, 10:50 PM
NOT "polished" stainless, just metal that resists rust.

stargazer7467
03-05-2011, 11:24 PM
then it really wont match the rest of the car :D

GLHNSLHT2
03-06-2011, 01:02 AM
Maybe on the east coast :)

Johnny
03-08-2011, 11:12 PM
Okay, I ordered up some staimless steel cut to make a few. When done, I'll let you know.

Reeves
03-09-2011, 10:01 AM
Aluminum next? :thumb:

Johnny
03-09-2011, 12:41 PM
Aluminum next?
No, sorry.

Reaper1
03-09-2011, 12:54 PM
I think SS would be a good upgrade. :thumb:

Johnny
03-16-2011, 08:47 PM
Making some powder coated ones and some stainless. So people will have a choice...SAME PRICE!!

bakes
03-16-2011, 09:00 PM
Making some powder coated ones and some stainless. So people will have a choice...SAME PRICE!!

Just wondering any if any difference in weight?

Johnny
03-16-2011, 10:10 PM
5 pounds!!!
.....kidding, I'll check.

cordes
03-17-2011, 09:55 PM
Very cool Johnny. When I need a new pass side mount I'll purchase one of the SS ones.

Johnny
04-20-2011, 02:44 AM
I have a few made. Photos in the morning.

mcsvt
04-20-2011, 11:13 AM
Cool! I need to order some mounts anyway.

Johnny
04-20-2011, 12:04 PM
They look like bare metal. They are not polished. Although you can paint or polish if you want.

Reeves
04-20-2011, 01:33 PM
They look like bare metal. They are not polished. Although you can paint or polish if you want.

Kinda looks like sheet aluminum in that pic.

Johnny
06-10-2011, 12:40 PM
These are in stock if anyone wants one.

Mr overkill
06-30-2011, 11:02 AM
looks like i will be grabbing one at carlisle

Johnny
07-01-2011, 02:46 AM
Order one, as I will not be at Carlisle this year.

Mr overkill
07-01-2011, 07:31 AM
awww crap i was hoping to pick up a complete set for the van and shoot the ---- but i guess ill be placing a order

thanks

Lotashelbys
07-19-2011, 10:11 PM
Hey Johnny How about the 90+ P side mounts???????

Johnny
07-20-2011, 02:12 AM
How about the 90+ P side mounts
I only have a few left in 100% polyurethane, real slow seller lately.
The rubber/poly one sells better. Not sure I am even going to make
more of the all-poly one.

eski
07-20-2011, 07:59 AM
I only have a few left in 100% polyurethane, real slow seller lately.
The rubber/poly one sells better. Not sure I am even going to make
more of the all-poly one.

I have one, but it looks like I am never gonna buy another because it will last longer than I am :)

How about poly exhaust insulators. Stock rubber ones are too weak for 3" ss pipes.

Johnny
07-20-2011, 08:41 AM
The hanger style? Thought they would get too hot and sag!

eski
07-21-2011, 12:00 PM
Don't know. How much poly can take heat?

shackwrrr
07-21-2011, 12:14 PM
I thought the stock exhaust hangars were silicone, Really stretchy but easy to slip that phallic hanger through.

Johnny
07-22-2011, 03:30 AM
You mean this kind??

eski
07-22-2011, 03:43 AM
Yeah.. something like that

Johnny
07-22-2011, 03:54 AM
I make hundreds of them, just dont sell them here or on my site.

cordes
07-22-2011, 11:34 AM
I make hundreds of them, just dont sell them here or on my site.

How do they hold up? Do you have any which are just like the ones we run? How much do they cost?

Johnny
07-22-2011, 12:45 PM
The people I make the for keep ordering them and have not said anything of how the hold up, so I guess they are.
Never thought about making them for our cars. No one have ever asked before. Make me think the volume would be slow.

shackwrrr
07-22-2011, 12:53 PM
I dont see why that exact one would't work?

Johnny
07-22-2011, 01:40 PM
It would, I have a couple on my van.
BUT it has their part number on it and they paid for the mold so I wont sell that one.
But could make another mold if I thought we would use them (I could sell them).
Are rubber ones still around? Price?

"Top Fuel" Bender
07-22-2011, 04:18 PM
You mean this kind??

I think I've used them before
do they have an inner cable on them?

minigts
07-22-2011, 05:48 PM
These are available on your site? I only see the black ones. Do you order from the site and just specify stainless?

Johnny
07-23-2011, 02:20 AM
Just ask for stainless. I have three left.

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I think I've used them before
do they have an inner cable on them?

No, just solid polyurethane.

eski
07-23-2011, 05:08 AM
Are rubber ones still around? Price?

Form rockauto WALKER Part # 35706, few bucks. I can take picture from stock one with measurements.

I myself are ready to pay price of the good product ;)

neongary
07-23-2011, 10:13 AM
Do you know the differences with the mounts on the J body convertible and non convertible? I see in the parts books that they have different numbers. Would like to get left and rights but can't tell differences by the pictures on your site.
Thanks.

Johnny
07-23-2011, 12:48 PM
The vert one is not listed on my site...if it is one like the vert shadows had. Can you email me a photo of your passenger side one? I have both in stock.

rooferchris
07-24-2011, 01:52 PM
Johnny can you e-mail me a price for 2 sets (4 in a set) engine mounts w/stainless steel pass. side on both. I have a '86 & a '87 SC with the stock T1 2.2L. My e-mail addy is sl.roofing@hotmail.com and shipping is to Canada V1C4W4 Cranbrook B.C.

neongary
07-24-2011, 03:02 PM
The vert one is not listed on my site...if it is one like the vert shadows had. Can you email me a photo of your passenger side one? I have both in stock.
Sounds good. I'll get that pic as soon as I can get to it.

Johnny
07-24-2011, 03:05 PM
Sure will, it is sent...

Johnny
07-24-2011, 04:16 PM
Here is the passenger side mount on the Shadow convertibles and some TC Maserati cars.

rooferchris
07-24-2011, 11:37 PM
Sure will, it is sent...
I think everything is in place e-mailed you LMK if there is any probs!

shackwrrr
07-24-2011, 11:48 PM
Here is the passenger side mount on the Shadow convertibles and some TC Maserati cars.

Woah, whats the reason they need that beast?

Johnny
07-25-2011, 02:15 AM
Woah, whats the reason they need that beast?

No idea for sure. Never seen one go bad either. I thought it was a "less" vibration thing, because both are convertibles. But not sure.

135sohc
07-25-2011, 03:57 AM
The bigger V6 K based cars (Imperial, NY'er ect) used those mounts as well. I think its one of those 'luxury' things to help cushion the engine better.
I bought one and do intend to install it, not a direct drop in for the cars that came with the regular rubber mount I found out. Gotta do a little backyard engineering to make it fit.

Reaper1
07-25-2011, 10:45 AM
The LeBaron 'Verts (I know from '87-'89 at least) used small hydraulic dampers on the side engine and transmission mounts to help with engine vibration and rocking. More weight and complexity, but something else to look at if people are interested.

Johnny
07-25-2011, 10:47 AM
Gotta do a little backyard engineering to make it fit.

What does it take to make it fit?

135sohc
07-25-2011, 02:29 PM
The pass through bolt is a larger diameter and the 'tube' it goes through is also longer than the regular mount.

rooferchris
08-13-2011, 05:19 PM
Well......from order to installed, less than 3 weeks. I live in Canada so that includes customs. My mechanic installed the pass. side and front mount in 1 hour. He even painted the bracket (didn't want rusty parts next to shiny ones) :thumb:. He said there were some very minor mods required on the front mount but the stainless steel pass side mount was a direct bolt in. I think a little tweek here and there is not "engineering" for a high quality part. Every auto parts supplier has parts that are for multiple applications and fit better on some cars than others but will work(ish) on a vast array of similar engines. It is to keep prices reasonable, you can only imagine what a part would cost if it was a one off for your vehicle only. Johnny has a great product and is great to deal with. I will recommend him and his parts to anyone that asks. I will also be looking to polybushings for all future replacement of mounts/bushings. Stock Sucks. Can you tell I'm more than happy with the results? :clap: I'm going to post up some pics of my old factory pass. mounts with no rubber left and you can decide for yourself. :nod:

neongary
08-14-2011, 06:37 PM
Here is the passenger side mount on the Shadow convertibles and some TC Maserati cars.
Nope, that ain't it. Looks like one of the regular mounts. Mine is shot, as you can see.....

neongary
08-14-2011, 06:42 PM
The LeBaron 'Verts (I know from '87-'89 at least) used small hydraulic dampers on the side engine and transmission mounts to help with engine vibration and rocking. More weight and complexity, but something else to look at if people are interested.
Anyone know where you can get new ones? I contacted the company that originally made these and no luck there.

Johnny
08-15-2011, 02:29 PM
New hydraulic dampers?
sorry no.

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Making more passenger side mounts (80's style) and made them ALL out of stainless, but am
powdercoating them black, except six, these will stay plain.

rooferchris
09-18-2011, 11:30 AM
Not installed yet, but I did receive the second order. Thanks Johnny!



Chris.

Johnny
10-05-2011, 12:09 PM
Most of my last batch of "early" passenger side engine mounts are made of stainless, then powder coated black. Same price for now. You guys who live in the salt belt will want one of these.

Ondonti
12-31-2011, 05:01 AM
Is there any way I can get a solid 90+ Passenger mount? I went on the site just now to buy one and no dice. I already own one and want another. I like your solid mounts and wished I had gotten one of the solid transmission mounts whenever you sold them. I have filled the mounts on my Daily with metal and welded those up but I still have wheelhop and am not happy. Your solid passenger mount cured the wheelhop on my Spirit back in 2005 when I filled a front mount and then I stole it for my Duster.

Maybe pay extra and somehow get both those......? I have an oldschool filled trans mount by Cheetah that works great.

I have not been happy with what I have seen of the filled trans mount after use so the filled passenger mount makes me nervous. Nothing you can do about the crap the OEM parts are made of. I wish the solids were a better seller for you.

Johnny
12-31-2011, 12:51 PM
I can make more, but since you are the only one that has asked for it in 6 months, it is
hard to justify the expense of making a batch of them.

shackwrrr
12-31-2011, 01:20 PM
is he talking the #1000 mount? I want one.

Johnny
12-31-2011, 01:31 PM
Yes that is what we are talking about.
(that makes two wanting one)

GLHNSLHT2
12-31-2011, 01:59 PM
Here is the passenger side mount on the Shadow convertibles and some TC Maserati cars.


Woah, whats the reason they need that beast?

That mount was used on 90 and up verts as they got rid of the dampners. That mount has zero flex but somehow doesn't transmit vibration to the car. I don't know if you can transfer it to a 90+ non vert car though.

The vert cars up to 90 so 89 and earlier used a regular pass mount with dampners. So you can use stock, MP, or PB pass mounts just like the rest of the cars.

Ondonti
01-01-2012, 07:32 PM
Well the shake is driving me crazy now. It seems like that mount is the most important mount on the vehicle. I want a nice one and I understand if 89 dollars does not cover it :P I wish your business was smaller so you wasted your time on us more! :P

Have not seen any commentary about people with wild stuff abusing that filled mount.

Johnny
01-02-2012, 02:17 AM
The filled one is great for a daily driver or one that needs more than stock, but it is not the solid one that is for sure. I am small, that is why i must not make a buch of anything and have lots of $$ sitting on the shelf that doen't sell. I would hope to get at least 10 people wanting it, to buy if i make them. Then i can proceed and make a batch.

dwh4784
01-02-2012, 02:54 AM
Johnny, so do you make the large 90+ convertible passenger side mount? When I got my car it was trashed and it is a pretty hard piece to find, thankfully thepope ended up having one locally. I didn't see it on your site or would have ordered one of yours then.

Johnny
01-02-2012, 11:01 AM
Johnny, so do you make the large 90+ convertible passenger side mount? When I got my car it was trashed and it is a pretty hard piece to find, thankfully thepope ended up having one locally. I didn't see it on your site or would have ordered one of yours then.

I have the stock ones in stock.

Reeves
01-02-2012, 12:42 PM
I'd be interested in a solid one.

Johnny
01-02-2012, 12:57 PM
I'd be interested in a solid one.

Which one do you mean...the 1990-95 one?

Johnny
01-02-2012, 12:58 PM
90+ convertible passenger side mount

You mean this one......

daver
01-02-2012, 02:16 PM
I'd also be interested in the #1000 90-95 solid mount if you make another batch. Any chance these would be done in stainless?

Also just to confirm, you currently have a few stainless, powdercoated black #3565 (81-89) mounts in stock?

Johnny
01-02-2012, 03:52 PM
Also just to confirm, you currently have a few stainless, powdercoated black #3565 (81-89) mounts in stock?

YES I do.

Lotashelbys
01-03-2012, 01:01 AM
Johnny I would be in for a few of the #1000 mounts. If you do stainless I might be in for alot......

Johnny
01-03-2012, 01:19 AM
I can make them from stainless and then powder coat them....or leave them bare if you like.

Ondonti
01-03-2012, 04:18 AM
I really don't care about the material as long as something gets made. It is an amazing mount for that very sketchy side of the motor.

dwh4784
01-03-2012, 02:08 PM
You mean this one......

Yeah that's the one I meant.

Ondonti
01-09-2012, 05:16 AM
nudge. How much more would stainless be if that helps motivate Jackson?

Ondonti
01-30-2012, 12:06 AM
bump time

Johnny
01-30-2012, 12:08 AM
Because?

135sohc
01-30-2012, 12:10 AM
Because?



nudge. How much more would stainless be if that helps motivate Jackson?



^^^^^

Johnny
01-30-2012, 12:15 AM
Stainless 1990-95 passenger side mount.
With or without powder coating it black?

without...same price.
with...$6 more.

paduster
01-30-2012, 12:46 AM
I would be in for at least one full set for the 90+ maybe even 2 might be getting another daytona soon so might need 2 sets just not right away would want one set then another later

Ondonti
01-31-2012, 07:50 AM
Stainless 1990-95 passenger side mount.
With or without powder coating it black?

without...same price.
with...$6 more.

I don't care about the options as long as others are interested. Jackson said he might be interested in quite a few sets if they were stainless.

I see the solid listed on TU's site but I am guessing he has none in stock.

Ondonti
02-07-2012, 03:13 PM
Not enjoying this thread result.

Johnny
02-07-2012, 03:16 PM
Not enjoying this thread result.

Why?


I decided to work on a new mold and process to make these. (Passenger side mount 1990-95)

Ondonti
02-16-2012, 06:34 AM
Well I will have to buy something :D I think I need a bobble too. I like the dampened lower bolt hole (like the old Steve Anders bobble) and not the solid lower and bushing'd top. Yours has both. Do you think your bobble will work without the upper poly parts? I think my current one (different maker) had the upper stuff all squish out because I was too lazy to adjust it properly and just cranked it down on multiple occasions and that one has a solid lower end (so its effectively solid on both ends). I love the Steve Anders one I have but I only have one. Wish I had more money back whenever my favorite parts were widely available.

I think I am buying another Spirit for my wife so I can be patient. But that means I will have another car to mount up :yuck:

Johnny
02-16-2012, 10:13 AM
Yesterday i went to my laser metal cuttting place and got the project started.

Ondonti
04-06-2012, 05:10 AM
How is the process going?

Johnny
04-06-2012, 12:41 PM
Got the metal pieces back, looks great. Welded one together and now having the mold made. Need to weld the rest of them this coming week.

Ondonti
05-24-2012, 04:47 AM
Get that welding done? Passenger mount in my new 3.0 is also blown. GRR

Johnny
05-24-2012, 08:47 AM
No, after I welded that one I realized the parts were made wrong, did not make the mold.
I am having them make them over. In fact they should be done by tomorrow, I need to check.

Johnny
06-15-2012, 11:56 PM
We finally got it right and metal cutting will progress next week.

Johnny
06-27-2012, 02:27 PM
Steel has been cut and welded. Now off to sandblast and powder coat.

Ondonti
06-30-2012, 04:10 PM
Heart! <3

Ondonti
08-12-2012, 06:53 PM
Filled? running out of pockets to burn through.

Johnny
08-12-2012, 08:44 PM
Powder coating is done. Not filled yet but SOON! Mold is being worked on!! :)

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running out of pockets to burn through.

Want me to keep those pockets for you? :)

Johnny
09-05-2012, 12:19 PM
Have the stainless steel, powder coated #1000 engine mounts finished and back in stock.
ALSO the early ones, the #3565 mounts, these are stainless also.

Johnny
09-07-2012, 06:16 PM
These were ASKED for, so I made them. Now that they are done, anyone want one???????????

paduster
09-07-2012, 06:18 PM
I do a newer style just can't afford one right now

cordes
09-07-2012, 06:53 PM
These were ASKED for, so I made them. Now that they are done, anyone want one???????????

Where do I order Johnny? Can I specify a durometer when I order?

Johnny
09-07-2012, 09:41 PM
You could have before I poured them all. You want hard for racing?
These are the softest we pour, great for street, solid for racing.

But if you want HARD, you have to wait for the next batch.

cordes
09-08-2012, 10:41 AM
You could have before I poured them all. You want hard for racing?
These are the softest we pour, great for street, solid for racing.

But if you want HARD, you have to wait for the next batch.

I was hoping for something a little harder, but I may just take a couple of side mounts anyway. Do you have any hard front mounts in stock? The early ones.

Johnny
09-09-2012, 12:18 AM
Yes i do, two in stock.

DevoBuzz
09-11-2012, 03:43 PM
Update on tranny mount for the SC?

Johnny
09-11-2012, 05:50 PM
Update on tranny mount for the SC?

Nothing for now. Going to SEMA to check things out end of Oct.

GLHNSLHT2
09-11-2012, 07:49 PM
do you have 2 different durometers for the early pass side mounts? Have you always? I bought one 2nd hand that I tried in my tona years ago. Buzzed the hell out of the car so I went back to the MP. I have it in my Yorker right now as I just have an MP front and stock tranny mount. It's liveable but still pretty buzzy. If somehow I got the harder option I'd be interested in a softer one.

johnl
09-11-2012, 09:55 PM
Ditto that, I prefer harder than soft, MP Performance level, not full race.

Johnny
09-11-2012, 10:42 PM
Long time ago might have done them a little harder...years, maybe 7 years ago.
But always 70a since then.
IF someone wanted harder I could do one hard....next batch. Pre-ordered. Pre-paid.
Cant imagine why for the side mount.

I have installed the mounts in many cars and none ever buzzed.
Well, except one. The gal loved it.

Ondonti
09-18-2012, 12:05 AM
I have not been on the site to see this. If I bought one modern style passenger mount in 2005 what would the durometer be on that one? I was not waiting all this time for a downgrade on the next ones I buy. Waited 8 months already to find out after the fact about what they would be filled with. If its comparable then I will buy two.

I would love to prepay for solid filled Transmission mounts if that was possible. I don't drive a 4 cylinder and don't have a vibration complaint. Preventing the motor from moving and drivetrain parts from breaking is all I care about.

Johnny
09-18-2012, 12:11 AM
Trans mount, 1990-95? In stock for $43

Ondonti
09-18-2012, 09:57 PM
Trans mount, 1990-95? In stock for $43

Talking about a non OEM style filled, but a true poly mount prepaid.

Anyways, I want to know how the durometer of the currently made stainless passenger mount compares to the passenger mount I purchased in 2005.

Johnny
09-18-2012, 11:50 PM
2005?...sorry, dont remember.

Not making a solid tranny mount. Did that years ago for the 84-89 style.
Did not work.

cordes
09-21-2012, 06:46 PM
2005?...sorry, dont remember.

Not making a solid tranny mount. Did that years ago for the 84-89 style.
Did not work.

What was wrong with it?

Johnny
09-21-2012, 08:26 PM
Soft enough for a good driver...it melted.
Hard enough, using a different non-melting material...it was super harsh.

The Pope
01-27-2013, 12:05 AM
Update on tranny mount for the SC?

As you don't use the spacers with this mount on the passenger side, you buy one more passenger side mount, add the spacers and the early L body trans mount works with 2 passenger side mounts. But as the design differs from stock they don't fit the trans bracket without the spacers. I used 2 of the early hard bushings and zero vibration, but I run a steel crank though.

zin
01-27-2013, 04:16 PM
Got a picture of what you're talking about? I'm having some trouble followin...

Mike

GLHNSLHT2
01-27-2013, 04:24 PM
Early Omni's used the passenger insulator on BOTH sides. That's why they have the markings with arrows on them on the stock ones. What The Pope is talking about is using the early Omni trans bracker to be able to run Johhny's pass mount on both sides. So on the pass side with Johnny's mount you take the factory spacers out! because the hole isn't in the stock location. But because the hole isn't in the stock location if you run the early Omni trans mount and use Johnny's bushings on that side, you have to put the spacers between the trans mount and the frame to get the motor to sit level.

The Pope like's this setup because it's full poly on both sides of the engine since Johnny only makes a rubber filled with poly mount for the trans.

Reeves
01-28-2013, 02:33 PM
Here's a picture of that early Omni trans mount:

Johnny
01-28-2013, 03:28 PM
Looks like the mount is installed upside down in that one.

zin
01-28-2013, 06:55 PM
Interesting... I might want to get one like that for my Omni. It seems like the engine sits too far to the passenger side. The PO had done an auto conversion and something didn't quite work out and the PS pump pulley has worn a slot in the frame rail!

I've moved it over as far as i could, even replaced the existing mount with one from a factory Auto car thinking that might be the issue, but there isn't enough adjustment there to "even it out"...

I probably should have it put on a frame rack to be sure it's "square", it has been hit on the drivers front, as is evidenced by the maroon fender, etc... but it is rust free so I guess there are trade-offs!

Mike

GLHNSLHT2
01-28-2013, 07:58 PM
Looks like the mount is installed upside down in that one.

It's supposed to be upside down compared to using it on the passenger side.


Interesting... I might want to get one like that for my Omni. It seems like the engine sits too far to the passenger side. The PO had done an auto conversion and something didn't quite work out and the PS pump pulley has worn a slot in the frame rail!

I've moved it over as far as i could, even replaced the existing mount with one from a factory Auto car thinking that might be the issue, but there isn't enough adjustment there to "even it out"...

I probably should have it put on a frame rack to be sure it's "square", it has been hit on the drivers front, as is evidenced by the maroon fender, etc... but it is rust free so I guess there are trade-offs!

Mike

If he used a non-lbody drivers side trans mount it would push the whole drivetrain over to the passenger side of the car.

zin
01-28-2013, 09:37 PM
That's what I thought, which is why I swapped it out for one that I pulled off an auto Omni, but still "not right"...

Might be that it's a combo, wrong mount and some "trapazoiding" of the uni-body... Looks straight and drives fine, but something can't be right.

Mike

Johnny
04-30-2013, 10:09 PM
Early passenger mounts are now in production. The metal parts cut and welded. Sandblasting tomorrow and then to powder coating. These will all be 70a durameter....UNLESS someone wants a HARD one. You need to let me know by next Tuesday. (5-7-13)

Johnny
08-10-2013, 11:33 PM
Yes in stock right now!

Ondonti
11-07-2013, 11:44 AM
You have email.