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midniteracer1
11-02-2010, 08:16 PM
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tsiconquest88
11-02-2010, 09:12 PM
Wow i didnt think i would see this... i want halo headlights for my spirit R/T and didnt think we would see halo's for any of the TM's... i am in for helping to make this happen for sure!!! Keep us informed on what we got to do.

midniteracer1
11-02-2010, 09:30 PM
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tsiconquest88
11-02-2010, 09:39 PM
Just curious, would it be something that somehow goes into the stock headlight assembly or a whole new assembly to bolt in?

midniteracer1
11-02-2010, 09:57 PM
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tsiconquest88
11-02-2010, 10:11 PM
awsome- thats what i wanted to hear lol. However the new ones would have to be rectangle anyway otherwise they wouldnt fit well or be smaller than the spot and look awkward. What would it be like?

midniteracer1
11-02-2010, 10:13 PM
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tsiconquest88
11-02-2010, 10:17 PM
No i mean shape of the housing. its going to be like the old rectangle anyway arent they? they have to fit right in the spots they go.

midniteracer1
11-02-2010, 10:25 PM
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midniteracer1
11-02-2010, 10:28 PM
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midniteracer1
11-02-2010, 10:31 PM
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89FerrariShelby
11-02-2010, 10:39 PM
i'd be in in a heartbeat, 89 Daytona stuff if it matters...

tsiconquest88
11-02-2010, 10:43 PM
My badges i want to keep factory- they are decals btw. no buldging plastic metal or what have you, on the spirit rt's. HAd it had those types of badges i would be in though if thats what you want to know lol.
As for the headlights, thats exactly what i was hoping. I dont mind the shape, as long as i have LED halo's lol. That is seriously going to be good looking on a spirit. IMO opinion.

midniteracer1
11-02-2010, 10:45 PM
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midniteracer1
11-02-2010, 10:47 PM
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tsiconquest88
11-02-2010, 10:51 PM
yea and it would be even more sweet on the spirit cus unlike that camaro we have hi and low beam, so it would look more like the dual halo's on bmw/mercedes and such. I dont care much about the flashing but overall im loving this idea. If it dont happen im gonna flip... if no one else ends up wanting them for the spirit, which very well may happen can just myself get a set? There are several different tm cars and spirits are kind of the lesser over some others, like the tona's for example where they will probably get good hits over the spirit.

tsiconquest88
11-02-2010, 10:53 PM
yea i know, the rt;s just have sticker decals, dohc intercooled on the sides and dodge spirit rt on the back trunk deck. There is buldged letters saying spirit on the front grill but its not removable. Maybe an overlay is in store there lol?

midniteracer1
11-02-2010, 10:59 PM
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tsiconquest88
11-02-2010, 11:04 PM
oh of course, im sure people will see the thread and i will see if people i know with spirits/spirit rt's would be in. And whatever other tm's that share the same headlights. If any? well besides acclaim and such.

midniteracer1
11-02-2010, 11:04 PM
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tsiconquest88
11-02-2010, 11:21 PM
Btw what part of LI are you in?

shackwrrr
11-03-2010, 12:25 AM
I would be really interested for my shadow

midniteracer1
11-03-2010, 01:13 AM
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turbovanman²
11-03-2010, 02:08 AM
Minivan, :nod:

Dodge Aries K
11-03-2010, 03:29 AM
Headlights for Shadow please.

Badger
11-03-2010, 04:56 AM
shadow please

tsiconquest88
11-03-2010, 08:35 AM
I figured the shadow guys would dominate right off the bat lol.

midniteracer1
11-03-2010, 08:48 AM
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midniteracer1
11-03-2010, 08:50 AM
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tsiconquest88
11-03-2010, 09:04 AM
Yea maybe make your first post the post where each type of car as a title then under it the names of the people interested and their year/make/model with username. So for starters say Dodge spirit r/t as title then under it
1- tsiconqquest: 1992 spirit r/t

So on and so forth for each type of car and just the names under that particular car. Once word starts as to what car bodies contain same headlights it can just be categorized under same and just the persons car labeled under such.

89FerrariShelby
11-03-2010, 09:06 AM
i'd be in in a heartbeat, 89 Daytona stuff if it matters...

seemed to be missed in the convo...

bumping it up

contraption22
11-03-2010, 09:06 AM
If they came up with newer, more modern AAbody headlights, I'd get them. I can do without Halos. They are for Bimmers. Although if all the housings had Halo's, I'm sure I could disable them.

tsiconquest88
11-03-2010, 09:11 AM
Well as we discussed you cant really change the old style of the shape of the headlights. They have to fit in the spot they go. Can maybe round the edges a little?, thats about it. And halo's can go to whatever you want them. Heck its modern looking and i like them alot. More than just BMW's use them. And might as well say you cant disable halo's since the halo is the shape of the lights (a circle) so your going to have that lit up circle no matter what. Only thing you can do is keep them steadily lit and not use the flashing feature. All you can do is see if they can alter yours to some other style LED headlight.

midniteracer1
11-03-2010, 09:33 AM
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ShelGame
11-03-2010, 09:45 AM
Deal. My buddy is still down at the SEMA show in Vegas & wants me to take a head count on how many people would want this for there 80's-90's Turbo-Mopars . This guy is willing to make sick LED lighting products for us but we need fellow members to support & really want this to happen. Any other sick LED ideas is incouraged to be written in this forum . If you or anybody else has an idea , post it & maybe others would like your idea. Then my buddy can present the idea to him & have it created for us
I have an 86 Turbo Z that I also want to have my rear hatch Pentastar to be lit up in a sick LED color .

I had an idea to make LED dash lights in blue, but with a UV led as well. For example, 3 small blue LED's and 1 UV led in a cluster on a module to replace a single dash bulb. The UV in there will tend to make the dash glow (like a black-light would). I think it would be a cool look for the dash lighting. It could probably be done with other colors, too. UV+Red LED's might look kind of purple-ish, etc.

midniteracer1
11-03-2010, 09:47 AM
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tsiconquest88
11-03-2010, 09:53 AM
Actually i have done LED in one of my starions in the past... with clear overlays that had white lines/numbers etc. Looked pretty wild. I had a youtube video of that starion and the dash but it was before i put the LED lights in place and altered things a bit.

midniteracer1
11-03-2010, 10:31 AM
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contraption22
11-03-2010, 11:39 AM
Well as we discussed you cant really change the old style of the shape of the headlights. They have to fit in the spot they go. Can maybe round the edges a little?, thats about it. And halo's can go to whatever you want them. Heck its modern looking and i like them alot. More than just BMW's use them. And might as well say you cant disable halo's since the halo is the shape of the lights (a circle) so your going to have that lit up circle no matter what. Only thing you can do is keep them steadily lit and not use the flashing feature. All you can do is see if they can alter yours to some other style LED headlight.

I'm thinking of keeping the overall outer shape of the OE housings, but instead of the diffused outer lens, have a clear outer lens with two round lights behind it.

Something like this

tsiconquest88
11-03-2010, 11:53 AM
thats fine and looks good. Exactly how i would expect it actually. I thought you meant change the design of its dimensions lol. Thats why i was like you cant, as it wont be right in the area the assembly goes into.

BTW, what is that for? howd you get it? or is it something you found a picture of?

Dodge Aries K
11-03-2010, 11:58 AM
That works for me. The P-body always had such AWFUL headlamps so having something that might actually light up the road is exciting!

shackwrrr
11-03-2010, 12:12 PM
89+ p-body so you have the year. The pre 89 guys have the choice of all those glass replacement square headlights out there. I am more excited about having projectors than having halos but either way I just want more light. Ive been contemplating getting 2 floods and 2 pencil beams for my shadow just so I can see as well as newer cars.

tsiconquest88
11-03-2010, 12:15 PM
lol ^

shackwrrr
11-03-2010, 12:40 PM
lol ^

people's headlights behind me throw more light farther than mine.

contraption22
11-03-2010, 12:58 PM
thats fine and looks good. Exactly how i would expect it actually. I thought you meant change the design of its dimensions lol. Thats why i was like you cant, as it wont be right in the area the assembly goes into.

BTW, what is that for? howd you get it? or is it something you found a picture of?

Its for an E36 bimmer. Pre-halo :)

tsiconquest88
11-03-2010, 12:58 PM
I hear ya man. And my headlights arent as bad as yours but man they arent great lol. My 89 mini had some good bright lights though, idk why. I didnt change them. Maybe they were the superbright by sylvania or some such company that makes those things. Idk lol.

tsiconquest88
11-03-2010, 02:22 PM
ah ok. I asked because it coulda past off for a headlight for one of our cars lol.

tsiconquest88
11-03-2010, 02:26 PM
By the way midnite i would take my idea on page one (post no. 30), and do it soon before a bunch more posts come because you will have a lot more reading/figuring to do at once to start the lists if you wait.

midniteracer1
11-03-2010, 04:04 PM
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midniteracer1
11-03-2010, 04:56 PM
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tsiconquest88
11-03-2010, 05:48 PM
Looking good:thumb: Its only the second day. Im sure things will turn out. Do you have an idea on how many of each type of headlight is needed? Im assuming just because say there is a big turnout on a bunch of say... daytona's.. Then they arent going to make a few of the people who want for example 3 omni's. Correct? Or do they not care as long as there is a big turnout as a whole? That im kind of guessing no on lol. I know the minivan guys should hit this up!!! Besides just Simon.

Austrian Dodge
11-03-2010, 06:03 PM
I hear ya ! Im wondering where the Daytona guys are lol

couple hours away in a different time zone ;)
any chance this might be working on a 92 daytona?

midniteracer1
11-05-2010, 01:31 AM
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88C/S
11-05-2010, 06:27 AM
I'm game, have an 88 C/S. Would be sick to have the badges lit as well as the other mode that have been mentioned.

tsiconquest88
11-05-2010, 09:07 AM
I didnt know anyone mentioned tail lights lol. Headlights is what we have been discussing.

midniteracer1
11-05-2010, 01:32 PM
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tsiconquest88
11-05-2010, 02:17 PM
I dont care projector or not, long as we can get some updated headlights lol.

turbovanman²
11-05-2010, 09:49 PM
Projector 89 Minivan, halo or not, don't care, just projector, :nod:

Aries_Turbo
11-06-2010, 10:20 AM
the majority of the cars run 200mm or 165mm standard sealed beam style headlamps till 1989.

many other makes and models of cars run these lights as well so demand for them should be there as long as the advertising is spread.

dodge spirit, 89+shadow and caravan should cover all the rest of the light styles minus late daytona/lebaron.

Brian

tsiconquest88
11-06-2010, 10:35 AM
Yea i figured someone would chime in eventually to state what can be used with what. The omni of course is probably the odd one out. Has the smallest of them all right? or do they use what the aries and such used? The omni looks to have a smaller headlight than the rest of the cars brian or no?

onerippinturbo2
11-06-2010, 11:07 AM
no the omni and charger use the standard headlight in a 2 headlight system, the daytonas of early 84-86 used the smaller 4 headlight system as well as the turismos and some 024's.

midniteracer1
11-06-2010, 01:32 PM
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midniteracer1
11-06-2010, 02:51 PM
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tsiconquest88
11-06-2010, 03:20 PM
Sounds fine, what type of material will the plastic be? Something that will withstand the outside elements?

As for price range, not sure what he gets for the ones he makes for his high end cars. Ebay has a lot of HID, LED etc headlights for cars, and are under well under 200 bucks most of the time, however idk the quality so yea. And depending what your friend's business will be using depends on how much too. I can say i would be willing to spend a good amount for a good quality long lasting headlight assembly where the lens and internal projectors dont look like crap after time, tarnish on the lens from outside elements, chip/flake inside at the projector case, etc.

tsiconquest88
11-06-2010, 03:26 PM
Wow, i will say this... His prices are awsome!!! i checked the site to get an idea of what he charges, for instance, 229 for a set of oracle projector snake eyes for a dodge viper.. Have no problem with that lol. I would pay that or more for the headlights you making for our cars. To give you an idea.

shackwrrr
11-06-2010, 03:30 PM
Ok, just talked to my buddy . He is looking to do projector headlights for our cars. He needs to know what kind of price range everybody will have . These cant be junk ... Right now the lights will be a modified H4 housing with Oracle HID projector retrofit kit with or without Halos.

Bummer, I was hoping for replacement for the modular headlight style with the 9004 bulbs in the back.

for the modular style I would gladly pay upwards around 300 for a set, I am looking at doing a custom set of my own and I was looking at around 250 for everything. On the 4x6 housings, I would expect them to be much cheaper since it is a very universal size that would have lots of sales and I see lots of people with that style headlight doing retrofit setups.

Chris W
11-06-2010, 03:37 PM
I was at SEMA but don't recall seeing his booth. I checked the directory and didn't see the company name there either. Did he dispaly under a different name or just the initials AAC or ALS? Does your friend live in NY or LA?

Chris-TU

midniteracer1
11-06-2010, 05:17 PM
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midniteracer1
11-06-2010, 05:21 PM
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amazing91shadow
11-06-2010, 05:22 PM
i want some halos for my 91 shadow i think that would look sick

midniteracer1
11-06-2010, 06:14 PM
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Aries_Turbo
11-06-2010, 06:23 PM
Yea i figured someone would chime in eventually to state what can be used with what. The omni of course is probably the odd one out. Has the smallest of them all right? or do they use what the aries and such used? The omni looks to have a smaller headlight than the rest of the cars brian or no?

the omni and the kcar use the same lamp... the larger 200mm one.

the daytona and the 87-88 shadow use the 165mm light.

the lancer/lebaron use the separate high beam system. i need to look at the sized. im not sure if they are different in dimension than the shadow/daytona.

Brian

amazing91shadow
11-06-2010, 07:36 PM
i think those would set my car off more.

tsiconquest88
11-06-2010, 07:37 PM
i think so too lol

amazing91shadow
11-06-2010, 07:48 PM
i got a body kit on my shadow and it would fit perfect with all my mods i have

tsiconquest88
11-06-2010, 07:54 PM
Yea i didnt know what your car looked like or anything but i said that cus im sure it would look good anyway, all the tm's should get these haha.

amazing91shadow
11-06-2010, 07:59 PM
yeah i know

midniteracer1
11-06-2010, 10:55 PM
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midniteracer1
11-07-2010, 12:33 AM
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dodgeshadowchik
11-07-2010, 09:20 AM
i like this.... the one thing that has always seem to have "dated" our cars is the headlights...

:D

Aries_Turbo
11-07-2010, 11:09 AM
ok just double checked.

all of the sealed beam cars use either the 165mm size headlamp or the 200mm headlamp. all of them. even the 4 headlight cars use the same size, they just have a different wattage lamp for low or high beam.

as for the 1993ish lebaron/daytona do they use the same headlight? its hard to tell

http://www.turbododge.com/forums/attachments/parts-sale/35288d1277574647-1984-1993-dodge-daytona-parts-hpim0364.jpg

http://www.yanktanks.com/pcfiles/images6/1993chryslerlebaronconv2.jpg

Brian

midniteracer1
11-07-2010, 01:15 PM
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tsiconquest88
11-07-2010, 10:53 PM
looks good man- minus the music lol

Shadowv4l
11-08-2010, 12:02 AM
1994 Shadow ES, 1988 shadow CSXT
id really like to see something for my csxt, i currently have the original glass bulb assemblies and they need serious help, visability is horrible haha, i would compare it to driving by candle light.

midniteracer1
11-08-2010, 12:39 AM
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Chris W
11-08-2010, 01:32 AM
Just found out that they were under Oracle. Not aac . AAC is Oracle

I'm sure I saw it then. We stopped at about 3 booths with vehicles that had unique background and headlight lighting. One of them was a new gen Camaro with custom Trans Am body panels. Lighting under the body panels lit up the badges and Firebird itself. Pretty sweet looking stuff.

Chris-TU

turbovanman²
11-15-2010, 10:29 PM
How about this for us : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTxNe8tZVA8

That looks nice, but for me, I dont' care too much about the Halo, I just want projectors, :p

I'd pay $200-$250 for a pair.

tsiconquest88
11-15-2010, 10:45 PM
whats the latest?

dusterdude
11-15-2010, 11:10 PM
I am deff. interested.

89 sundance.

rich tideswell
11-18-2010, 06:03 PM
ok just double checked.

all of the sealed beam cars use either the 165mm size headlamp or the 200mm headlamp. all of them. even the 4 headlight cars use the same size, they just have a different wattage lamp for low or high beam.

as for the 1993ish lebaron/daytona do they use the same headlight? its hard to tell

http://www.turbododge.com/forums/attachments/parts-sale/35288d1277574647-1984-1993-dodge-daytona-parts-hpim0364.jpg

http://www.yanktanks.com/pcfiles/images6/1993chryslerlebaronconv2.jpg

Brian

i think the head light is the same, however the amber corner lamps are way different

GLHSHELBY
11-28-2010, 07:36 PM
awsome- thats what i wanted to hear lol. However the new ones would have to be rectangle anyway otherwise they wouldnt fit well or be smaller than the spot and look awkward. What would it be like?

I`m interested if it does away with the flip-up headlights on the 89 daytona. Other cars like the miata and nsx have already been done. Color shift haloes would be perfect.Also the parking lights need to be scrapped in favor for parking likes kinda like the audi`s and mercedes have.
I`ve emailed Oracle 3 times this month already but since you have a friend I`m in for this. Any other daytona lighting products I`m interested in also. Hopefully the housings could come in black or carbon fiber.
I`d be interested in a total rear makeover also,just too much plastic back there.

GLHSHELBY
11-28-2010, 07:39 PM
I was at SEMA but don't recall seeing his booth. I checked the directory and didn't see the company name there either. Did he dispaly under a different name or just the initials AAC or ALS? Does your friend live in NY or LA?

Chris-TU

AAC is from LA. ,the main guy is on my other forum.He does a lot of challenger,charger type cars.
http://www.deepsouthmopars.com/showthread.php?t=4892

GLHSHELBY
11-28-2010, 07:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyA5xEls-iU
and could he do side markers like this for the td`s

http://www.deepsouthmopars.com/showthread.php?t=4589

contraption22
11-29-2010, 02:50 PM
Something like this in a 6054 size would be awesome.

http://www.truck-lite.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=64057&langId=-1

GLHSHELBY
11-29-2010, 10:02 PM
Something like this in a 6054 size would be awesome.

http://www.truck-lite.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=64057&langId=-1

that looks good too.

GLHSHELBY
12-07-2010, 01:31 AM
anybody working on this still???

tsiconquest88
12-07-2010, 01:51 AM
i think its done for- as per his thread on td. Prices were around 500 or so he told me in pm. Asked me how that would go i said probably not good but post up and see what people think. The company oracle wont make them without being their own complete kit, they wont make just the headlights assemblies. This is all what came out of the thread at td. He must not have ever filled us in over here. This was a few weeks ago nonetheless. For that matter sorry i didnt fill you guys in either lol. I figured i would wait and not say anything in CASE something got worked out but i am guessing its been enough time now that he would have posted an update if pricing and or the company just make headlight assemblies has changed to a go ahead lol.

Aries_Turbo
12-07-2010, 01:53 PM
we can always do a retrofit with bixenon retrofits in the el cheapo h4 bulb sealed beam housing as long as the housing lens is the clear style without all the fresnel cuts and stuff.

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=141&osCsid=8689e0bbac9e47c636679807fea223ec

they use a multiple locking ring setup for easy installation once you remove the lens.

Brian

turbovanman²
12-07-2010, 03:35 PM
we can always do a retrofit with bixenon retrofits in the el cheapo h4 bulb sealed beam housing as long as the housing lens is the clear style without all the fresnel cuts and stuff.

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=141&osCsid=8689e0bbac9e47c636679807fea223ec

they use a multiple locking ring setup for easy installation once you remove the lens.

Brian

Those housings are similiar to the ones I bought a few years ago, either BMW or Cadillac.
Guess I gotta get on making my own again, :(

tsiconquest88
12-07-2010, 04:02 PM
Yeah theres a lot of things they could do, but they arent willing to make/sell a housing so we can just use cheaper kits to do the rest. They want it all, which isnt too far off from any other companies logic lol.

Aries_Turbo
12-07-2010, 05:49 PM
Those housings are similiar to the ones I bought a few years ago, either BMW or Cadillac.
Guess I gotta get on making my own again, :(

these are custom manufactured housings that are copies of the infinity FX HID's only with clear lenses and threaded locking ring mounting so that you can easily mount the HID housing where the original bulb went with little to no cutting.

Brian

turbovanman²
12-07-2010, 05:51 PM
these are custom manufactured housings that are copies of the infinity FX HID's only with clear lenses and threaded locking ring mounting so that you can easily mount the HID housing where the original bulb went with little to no cutting.

Brian

On any headlight? I didn't see much info, I'll look around again later.

Aries_Turbo
12-07-2010, 06:00 PM
yeah on pretty much any headlight that has:

1. a separate bulb

2. reasonable depth

3. the ability to remove the lens either with a little heat or other methods.

id love to get a set and make some lexan covers and a housing on my daytona and ditch the pop ups.

Brian

turbovanman²
12-07-2010, 06:06 PM
yeah on pretty much any headlight that has:

1. a separate bulb

2. reasonable depth

3. the ability to remove the lens either with a little heat or other methods.

id love to get a set and make some lexan covers and a housing on my daytona and ditch the pop ups.

Brian

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, :eyebrows:

tsiconquest88
12-07-2010, 08:04 PM
^ hmmmmmmmmm is right lol. I had no idea this is what you were getting at Brian. I am going to have to look into this. I too didnt see that info anywhere in the link you gave. I assumed they still had to go into a "made for" housing for the particular vehicle to use those. Not be able to go into the oem housing.

Aries_Turbo
12-07-2010, 10:12 PM
yeah i would have had no idea either except that a local guy has been into HID retrofits for a while and he has a set of these and was telling me about how they install and how slick it is a few weeks ago. so since the original intent of the thread had died, i figured id extend it a bit with this idea.

there is a forum associated with the site to see installs and stuff.

you need clear lenses though. not the fresnel style (all the goofy little cuts/lenses and stuff) so on something like simons van or your spirit, youd need to do something like cut the face off of the lens and glue in a piece of UV resist lexan (percys speedglass maybe) so that the HID light can shine straight through.

i want to do this to some of my cars. :)

Brian

tsiconquest88
12-07-2010, 10:34 PM
Yea you know, i once bought clear lenses for starquest foglights some guy was selling back in the day on those forums. I just had to remove the glass from the stocker fogs, clean up the surounding lip where it adheres, and silicone his in, shaped and all, idk how he did it though. Going to have to ask him if i can find him, idk if he is even on those boards anymore haha. But that was because they werent flat to the housing.
I will have to look at mine tomorrow as i havent even looked cus i didnt really know of this particular projector install parts. This could end up being cool.

tsiconquest88
12-07-2010, 10:46 PM
I was searching through ebay to see what pricing is there and i found this, its for one side but 2 sets would still make it much less than tghe link above. However is this the same style as that in your link brian?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/INFINITI-G35-350Z-G37-JDM-Projector-Retrofit-Headlight-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem45f5a2e763QQitemZ30047 3837411QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries

Aries_Turbo
12-07-2010, 10:59 PM
oops, i posted the wrong link above for the style that has the lock rings for easy install.

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=237&osCsid=8689e0bbac9e47c636679807fea223ec

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=227&osCsid=8689e0bbac9e47c636679807fea223ec

these are the ones with the lock rings.

actually that kit that you posted up looks to come with everything for an install (look in the list lower down, it says 2x for alot of that stuff)

man that is cheap too. if it performs like the ones from theretrofitsource than it would be worth a shot. i know the ones from TRS are really bright and perform awesomely.

Brian

tsiconquest88
12-07-2010, 11:37 PM
yea i seen that but i think they mean 2 of everything as ou need 2 lights per headlight, so in turn 2 ballasts and wiring and such? hi/lo are seperate for these types of lights. In turn 4 total needed for each of everything?

Aries_Turbo
12-08-2010, 08:40 AM
i dont think so. i think you get what is in the picture.

and they are bixenon so that means they have a solenoid that adjusts the light for high and low range.

i think you only need one set.

Brian

tsiconquest88
12-08-2010, 09:46 AM
Yea maybe idk. Thats just what it seemed to me. I will contact the seller and find out.

Shadowv4l
12-09-2010, 12:47 AM
so.... who's gunna be the test subject here?, Step by Step PICS!

tsiconquest88
12-09-2010, 09:39 AM
Depending how things go i may be? i do plan to get it all and do it soon as i can, i am back to work but on a 1-2 week break waiting for electricians, alarm crew, etc to finish what they have to do at the bank we've been building the interior on. I have bought stuff for the RT i have been needing so the headlights werent top priority (not that i knew of this alternative till the other day anyway lol). But still have a couple other things im buying first before these. I will surely do a writeup and such if i am the first person. I will update here i guess if i do indeed grab these before anyone.

54inches
12-09-2010, 12:33 PM
Where are you getting housings. I kow some of the 73-91 Chevy trucks use 265 and 200 mm, and LMCtruck makes some clear housings. I just don't know if the inlet is the correct size.

http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/csb/full.aspx?Page=72
http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/csb/full.aspx?Page=73

For the 84 rampage there is Dual Headlamp suburban from 89-91 that offers a LONG parking lamp under the dual 1500 mm that might replace the dual headlights on the Rampage, so you could use the single HID with High and low.

From the ebay link above: http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn18/jack668/angel%20eye/IMG_5695.jpg

If they are threaded, regardless, I would think you could make it work with some modifications to the housing.

Any thoughts?

tsiconquest88
12-09-2010, 01:43 PM
i am using the housing from my car. Just going to see how i can go about removing the front lens and replacing with some other type of clear that has no lines/etchings, whatever you call the crap lol.

tsiconquest88
12-09-2010, 08:38 PM
Finally got a solid answer from thr seller of the link i gave as to if it comes with enough to do both sides or if its just for one headlight, after back and forth explanation i get this..

1 set = 2 pieces. this kit is good for a pair headlight

Which was what i wanted to know lol. And was better than this response....

this listing is for 2 hid ballast ,2 projetor , and full wiring kit.
projector has hi and low beam HID.

^ well that was all obvious but not clear as to if its for both sides or if 2 meant 1 hi and 1 low for 1 headlight assembly. Apparently you get 4 then. 2 hi and 2 low. which would be a pair of headlights.

Woodbine shelby
12-09-2010, 10:55 PM
What is the cost for a pair of headlights. Say for an 84 Dodge Shelby Charger?

tsiconquest88
12-09-2010, 11:12 PM
Stock ones? idk, if your talking about these projectors there arent any for any of our cars..

GLHSHELBY
12-09-2010, 11:31 PM
Yeah theres a lot of things they could do, but they arent willing to make/sell a housing so we can just use cheaper kits to do the rest. They want it all, which isnt too far off from any other companies logic lol.

I`m sure if they do it all it might be a much better kit. I`d rather not have a half way job.

tsiconquest88
12-10-2010, 09:12 AM
Well whatever, the reason behind that idea was because no one wanted to pay 500 bucks. So the idea was thrown at him to maybe have the company make the housings and we can source our hid kits. That was trashed so here we are. Its ok thanks to Brian this can be done on our own time. And Thanks to Brian i searched ebay once i knew there was retro's and found the link that I put up, which are less than half of his link. I will try them to be the test goat if no one else does first and if they check out- great!!! IF not then Brians link would be better lol. The company he linked is on ebay too and they sell their stuff a bit cheaper than their site link - (side note lol).

tsiconquest88
12-10-2010, 12:41 PM
Ok so i looked at my headlights today, its pretty direct but my issue would be the lenses. They arent as flat as i hoped, they are bent at a 90 lip all around that seats into the plastic housing. How would I bend whatever material i go with to form how the stockers were?? I could keep the new stuff flat but i think it would look like doo doo lol.

54inches
12-10-2010, 01:17 PM
If you got some 1/2" material and had it machined/routed/relief cut, then the housing itself could fit down in the material that was machined. Make sense?

tsiconquest88
12-10-2010, 01:19 PM
no lol im confused by that actually. Not being a smart --- just clarify what your saying maybe? I am assuming your saying add the 1/2" to my plastic housing? so the new flat piece of lens can go into that? if so, i thought of that but i would like it to look exactly how it was using the factory rubber around the lip and all.

54inches
12-10-2010, 04:12 PM
No, find some 1/2 LEXAN or speedglass for a new lens. Have the Lens with a relief cut all the way around to accept the housing and then you could glue everything together with epoxy.

I say machine as you don't want the lens too big so as not to fit in front header panel.

OR, if it would work, mount the lens INSIDE the housing.

No worries brother, it was a little confusing when I reread it. :)

Can you post a pic of your housing, so I can see what you are talking about the rubber and whatnot?

tsiconquest88
12-10-2010, 04:39 PM
Ok i "think" I see what your saying, thats the route i dont want to go though. If you look at the spirits headlight assembly, well idk if they vary from years but at least my 92 rt the stock lens fits into the plastic but its not flat lens its got a 90 (curved all around at a 90 angle). So if i put a flat piece of lexan or whatever i end up using, it just wont look right at all. The stock lens comes out 1/2" or so past the plastic housing and if i use flat stuff and adhere it to the plastic housing its going to be 1/2" inside the hood/corner light lenses, you see what i mean? Unless i build out on the housing then put flat stuff... which is possible but that too would have to be done nice.

Aries_Turbo
12-10-2010, 06:28 PM
if you cut the face of the original lens off and leave the 1/2" side bits. take just the face off and leave part of the 90deg beveled edge for glue to adhere to.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27292&stc=1&d=1292019754

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27293&stc=1&d=1292019754

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27294&stc=1&d=1292019754

then heat up a piece of lexan and bend it to the same curve as the stock lens

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27295&stc=1&d=1292019754

glue it to the side bits.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27296&stc=1&d=1292019754

trim the excess off and use a router to make a nice beveled edge.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27297&stc=1&d=1292019754

paint the machined bits to hide the glue seam if its a little ugly. either body color or black or whatever color you think will match.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27298&stc=1&d=1292019754

Brian

tsiconquest88
12-10-2010, 07:21 PM
Yea thats how i was figuring i had to do.

However... I sent a pm today to the guy i knew from sqc that did clear fogs for the starquests, I am just waiting for a response, if he molded them to shape or had sent the stockers out idk and thats the info im waiting for, if he did them than he can do mine and i can just send him them. Would look much cleaner than piecing it like your saying (which im not knocking that and its how i was thinking of doing as i said, but one piece to the actual shape would be sweet!!!).

Aries_Turbo
12-11-2010, 12:19 AM
if you had a set of glass spirit headlights, molding lexan over it would be cake.

making molds and then a reverse mold wouldnt be too hard though.

i just dont know how much lexan likes to be heated and molded though.

brian

tsiconquest88
12-11-2010, 12:20 AM
my headlights are plastic actually.

Aries_Turbo
12-11-2010, 12:28 AM
yeah i know, most of them are. there were some glass ones made in europe though iirc which some folks have bought as they dont get yellowed

Brian

tsiconquest88
12-11-2010, 12:36 AM
Oh yes i didnt know you meant those. Yea euro headlights they were and were glass. Matt (simsy) has them on his 91 rt that i do know of.

54inches
12-11-2010, 03:32 PM
Ok i "think" I see what your saying, thats the route i dont want to go though. If you look at the spirits headlight assembly, well idk if they vary from years but at least my 92 rt the stock lens fits into the plastic but its not flat lens its got a 90 (curved all around at a 90 angle). So if i put a flat piece of lexan or whatever i end up using, it just wont look right at all. The stock lens comes out 1/2" or so past the plastic housing and if i use flat stuff and adhere it to the plastic housing its going to be 1/2" inside the hood/corner light lenses, you see what i mean? Unless i build out on the housing then put flat stuff... which is possible but that too would have to be done nice.

Gotcha! I thought you had the square 150, 165 or 200mm ones that were flat on the front like my Rampage.

I want to try and buy the ones from LMC and see what happens. Good Luck!

tsiconquest88
12-11-2010, 06:22 PM
LMC? what they sell projector headlights for our cars?

shackwrrr
12-11-2010, 07:11 PM
I was going to use these:
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=127
and these:
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=2135

for my headlights, they do not need a lens on top so I was just going to make a metal plate that fits in the stock location and mount these in it. No need to hack apart the stock housings, just throw them out altogether

They control a hid pretty well

http://www.nu-garage.com/hella/IMG_3959.jpg

Woodbine shelby
12-12-2010, 12:29 AM
What is the cost for a pair of headlights. Say for an 84 Dodge Shelby Charger?

Was wondering if they make these for our old cars what would they charge for the set up?:confused2:

54inches
12-12-2010, 02:04 AM
LMC? what they sell projector headlights for our cars?
See post # 115 and click on the link.


Was wondering if they make these for our old cars what would they charge for the set up?:confused2:

That has already been covered and no. Read from around post 115 and on and it covers it.

Aries_Turbo
12-12-2010, 10:25 AM
^^ yeah thats fine for the sealed beam cars like the Lbodies, daytona with popups and 86 and older, k car, 88 and older shadow, etc.

but for 89+ shadow, spirit, 91+ lebaron/daytona etc you gotta start making stuff. :)

Brian

thedon809
12-12-2010, 01:01 PM
Would these work in an omni?
http://www.racerdevelopment.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/SFV/32389/vpid/7712961/vpcsid/0/rid/130053

54inches
12-12-2010, 05:49 PM
^^ yeah thats fine for the sealed beam cars like the Lbodies, daytona with popups and 86 and older, k car, 88 and older shadow, etc. but for 89+ shadow, spirit, 91+ lebaron/daytona etc you gotta start making stuff. :)Brian

Yeah, that's kinda why I posted it. :D For L-body guys. Still gotta fab the back.



Would these work in an omni?
http://www.racerdevelopment.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/SFV/32389/vpid/7712961/vpcsid/0/rid/130053

The link that I posted will work for an Omni (L-body) I think S-10s use a lot larger housing(7"x6").

This is a project that I want to do, but it is on the bottom of the list for now.:D

GLHSHELBY
12-24-2010, 10:32 PM
So my buddy goes to the famous SEMA show that is held out in Vegas every year. The SEMA Show is the premier automotive specialty products trade event in the world . It draws the industry’s brightest minds and hottest products to one place, the Las Vegas Convention Center.

Dodge Daytona
1. 89Ferrarishelby : 1989 Dodge Daytona
2. Shelgame : 1989 Dodge Daytona C/S
3. Glhshelby: 1989 dodge daytona


interested :thumb::thumb:

3Bar_Mopar
01-02-2011, 03:25 AM
Interested!

1989 Sundance.

tsiconquest88
01-02-2011, 09:56 AM
Might as well lock this one up lol...

GLHSHELBY
01-14-2011, 01:21 AM
Might as well lock this one up lol...
Anyone here in Louisiana ?? There`s a location there also. I`d love to know the status of this