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Twizter68
10-13-2010, 10:32 AM
Will the 2.4 fit in a Daytona with the factory intake/exhaust manifolds from the SRT?
turbovanmanČ
10-13-2010, 02:09 PM
Exhaust mani, no problem, intake may require mods and also depends on what trans your going to use.
spoolinhard
10-27-2010, 12:19 PM
whats up with the intake?
BadAssPerformance
10-27-2010, 02:01 PM
Exhaust mani, no problem, intake may require mods and also depends on what trans your going to use.

+1, also depends on how the mounts were made
turbovanmanČ
10-27-2010, 08:32 PM
whats up with the intake?

I believe it hits the trans IIRC or the angle is off for our cars, if using an SRT intake, others, just need modding or build your own.
A.J.
10-27-2010, 10:37 PM
If you're using an automatic, the IAC motor hits the transmission. I'm using an SRT-4 intake with the throttle body spacer. The 2.2/2.5/3.3/3.8 throttle body has the same bolt pattern. I'm working on a solution to this problem. When I do I'll post it in my project log thread.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/thebest4/SRT-4/DSCF0866-1.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/thebest4/SRT-4/DSCF0864-1.jpg

A.J.
TonaChris
10-27-2010, 11:54 PM
does it hit the trans with a manual?
A.J.
10-28-2010, 12:17 AM
does it hit the trans with a manual?

If you are using a 2.2/2.5 auto or manual transmission that puts the starter in the back you might be okay. I am only speculating though. I have no hard evidence. I'm using a '98 automatic out of a 2.4 N/A Caravan that puts the starter in the front. The IAC is hitting the starter bulge. I was considering just grinding the transmission for clearance but I have another idea I want to try first.

A.J.
RoadWarrior222
10-28-2010, 03:45 PM
I might try and cope with that by angle shaving the intake face and where the TB goes... either across to bring it outwards, or top-bottom to bring it up.
Mopar318
10-28-2010, 04:40 PM
I might try and cope with that by angle shaving the intake face and where the TB goes... either across to bring it outwards, or top-bottom to bring it up.

Then it wouldnt bolt together. The easy way to do it is cut the intake where the flange, is shaft a little off, and weld back together.
RoadWarrior222
10-28-2010, 04:47 PM
It'd take a slight angle and still bolt up and you wouldn't need much at the head end to move it half an inch over there.

Actually, just a spacer at the head side would probably do it... or a huge stack of gaskets :D
Mopar318
10-28-2010, 04:49 PM
It'd take a slight angle and still bolt up and you wouldn't need much at the head end to move it half an inch over there.

Belive me, that throttle body spacer wont go in at a angle. Its machined to fit inside of the manifold and uses a 0-ring to seal.
RoadWarrior222
10-28-2010, 05:13 PM
Huh? Was talking about the face of the spacer to TB, looks like he could machine it at the angle it's slopping on the studs there... though that's still a bit close for comfort.
Mopar318
10-28-2010, 05:36 PM
Huh? Was talking about the face of the spacer to TB, looks like he could machine it at the angle it's slopping on the studs there... though that's still a bit close for comfort.

Ah, ok. I thought you were talking about the spacer...because it would not go in at any angle....hehe

There is a good amount of slop in the throttle body mounting holes, but I just went out and tried to angle the throttle body on my SRT setup and it wouldnt move enough to do anything. You could probally hog out the through holes on the TB and do it that way though.
A.J.
10-28-2010, 08:49 PM
It'd take a slight angle and still bolt up and you wouldn't need much at the head end to move it half an inch over there.

Actually, just a spacer at the head side would probably do it... or a huge stack of gaskets :D

I thought about that but it'd be really close to my fan by my measurements.


Huh? Was talking about the face of the spacer to TB, looks like he could machine it at the angle it's slopping on the studs there... though that's still a bit close for comfort.

That won't work. If you angle the throttle body spacer, then the bolts that go through the throttle body, through the t.b. spacer and into the intake won't thread in because those will now be at the new angle you ground onto the t.b. spacer.

A.J.
RoadWarrior222
10-28-2010, 09:10 PM
Fuggit then randomly saw through it somewhere and patch it back up with silicone hose and duct tape :D
ShadowFromHell
10-28-2010, 10:33 PM
Could you build a adaptor plate that rotated the TB say 90 degree's?
Mopar318
10-28-2010, 10:52 PM
Could you build a adaptor plate that rotated the TB say 90 degree's?

Well, since its diamond shaped, it would probally make it closer to the trans rotated.
A.J.
10-28-2010, 10:59 PM
Possibly. But I want to angle it about 45* to get it away from the trans. It's pointing right at the dipstick.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/thebest4/SRT-4/DSCF0868.jpg

A.J.
Mopar318
10-28-2010, 11:09 PM
Possibly. But I want to angle it about 45* to get it away from the trans. It's pointing right at the dipstick.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/thebest4/SRT-4/DSCF0868.jpg

A.J.

If you were German, you would just build the charge pipe around the dipstick!
A.J.
10-29-2010, 11:05 PM
The SRT-4 t.b. spacer on the left has a cut out for the IAC. Compared to the 3.3 t.b. that we are all familiar with on the right.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/thebest4/SRT-4/DSCF0877.jpg

With the SRT-4 t.b. spacer being round with an o-ring on the intake side I'm going to rotate it 180*.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/thebest4/SRT-4/DSCF0878.jpg

BUT, there is a hugh air gap.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/thebest4/SRT-4/DSCF0881.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/thebest4/SRT-4/DSCF0882.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/thebest4/SRT-4/DSCF0884.jpg

And the beginning of my "fix" for the air gap and IAC hitting the trans.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/thebest4/SRT-4/DSCF0887-1.jpg

It took me an hour to mow through it.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/thebest4/SRT-4/DSCF0886.jpg

A.J.
grsmnky81
11-02-2010, 02:04 AM
why not cut the dipstick and fab it away from the contact area, then i guess you would have to lengthen the dipstick itself to make uo for the extra tubing added in to get a corect fluid level reading....... NM, will the 2.2 3 speed auto bolt up to the 2.4??
shackwrrr
11-02-2010, 02:43 AM
why not take a pie cut out of the intake behind the flange and weld it back together.
A.J.
11-02-2010, 10:51 AM
why not cut the dipstick and fab it away from the contact area, then i guess you would have to lengthen the dipstick itself to make uo for the extra tubing added in to get a corect fluid level reading....... NM, will the 2.2 3 speed auto bolt up to the 2.4??

The dipstick tube in the picture is actually out of a 3.3 41TE Caravan transmission. The 2.4 31TH is straighter and more in the way.

The 2.2/2.5 A413 will bolt up to the 2.4 except for one bellhousing bolt. It also puts the starter in the back. That trans isn't what I want but others might want to use it.


why not take a pie cut out of the intake behind the flange and weld it back together.

I don't want to cut up the intake. If I screw it up, they're to expensive and hard to come by. I think this angled adaptor I'm working on is going to be the best route for me. Things have picked up at my shop so I haven't been able to work on it.

A.J.
rdnoel86
11-06-2010, 03:49 AM
why not take a pie cut out of the intake behind the flange and weld it back together.

Thats what OhioRob did on his SRT-4 mini if I remember correctly. I plan on doing that mod and may even clean it out and put a flange on it that would handle an after market tb.
turbovanmanČ
11-15-2010, 10:31 PM
why not cut the dipstick and fab it away from the contact area, then i guess you would have to lengthen the dipstick itself to make uo for the extra tubing added in to get a corect fluid level reading....... NM, will the 2.2 3 speed auto bolt up to the 2.4??

Not really, it will but needs modding. Just use the Neon 3 speed, and beef it up for turbo use.