Ondonti
09-20-2010, 08:59 AM
Since I have a lot of fuel pump capacity but undersized injectors, I was thinking about running higher base fuel pressure to make more power (at 90%+ IDC already on low boost numbers with E70 and its gonna get worse because I moved back to an E85 state so my injectors will behave even smaller).
The idea of running high base fuel pressure all the time scares me.
My current fuel setup is twin OEM 5/16" feed lines being fed by twin external Walbros. Enough for 1000whp on Gasoline. Maybe 750whp on E85.
I was thinking I could set the system to run on one pump out of boost, then have a hobbs switch set to zero psi and have that activate the second pump. I previously ran these injectors well over 100psi with my old rising rate regulator setup so it wouldn't bother me to hit 100+psi fuel pressure when the second pump turns on.
It will turn my little 36# injectors (they are actually 47# but E85 turns them into the equivalent of 36#) into 54# injectors at 100psi and 57# at 110psi. I know flow gains drop off a lot at high pressure but with the fuel pumps to handle it, it would be a cheap way to make more power without getting new injectors.
I really want injector dynamics injectors if I upgrade and they are 100 a pop. I am pretty sure six 54# injectors plus 2500 cc's of methanol is enough to max out this stock shortblock. Possibly allow ~180whp more to be made without changing anything.
I could constantly run 100psi but I just don't like the idea.
When setting things up I would just set fuel pressure with 1 pump and see how high it goes when the 2nd pump turns on. Then adjust the regulator on 1 pump until I get the fuel pressure I want on 2 pumps. One thing is that I don't know if my Trick Flow regulator (probably the same thing as every other 2 in 1 out regulator out there) wants to do 100psi. I think it claimed 30-70psi but I don't see why it would be a problem since I think that range is an "estimate" based off what they think is reasonable on the average setup...?
I also have no idea how much pressure might change when I make the 2nd pump go online..........I know how my old RRR and base regulator worked, it was just a metal diaphragm pushing against a seat. Pressure was created by a restriction but it was only stable if fuel pump flow was stable (in my understanding).
Not really sure how this one regulates pressure.
The idea of running high base fuel pressure all the time scares me.
My current fuel setup is twin OEM 5/16" feed lines being fed by twin external Walbros. Enough for 1000whp on Gasoline. Maybe 750whp on E85.
I was thinking I could set the system to run on one pump out of boost, then have a hobbs switch set to zero psi and have that activate the second pump. I previously ran these injectors well over 100psi with my old rising rate regulator setup so it wouldn't bother me to hit 100+psi fuel pressure when the second pump turns on.
It will turn my little 36# injectors (they are actually 47# but E85 turns them into the equivalent of 36#) into 54# injectors at 100psi and 57# at 110psi. I know flow gains drop off a lot at high pressure but with the fuel pumps to handle it, it would be a cheap way to make more power without getting new injectors.
I really want injector dynamics injectors if I upgrade and they are 100 a pop. I am pretty sure six 54# injectors plus 2500 cc's of methanol is enough to max out this stock shortblock. Possibly allow ~180whp more to be made without changing anything.
I could constantly run 100psi but I just don't like the idea.
When setting things up I would just set fuel pressure with 1 pump and see how high it goes when the 2nd pump turns on. Then adjust the regulator on 1 pump until I get the fuel pressure I want on 2 pumps. One thing is that I don't know if my Trick Flow regulator (probably the same thing as every other 2 in 1 out regulator out there) wants to do 100psi. I think it claimed 30-70psi but I don't see why it would be a problem since I think that range is an "estimate" based off what they think is reasonable on the average setup...?
I also have no idea how much pressure might change when I make the 2nd pump go online..........I know how my old RRR and base regulator worked, it was just a metal diaphragm pushing against a seat. Pressure was created by a restriction but it was only stable if fuel pump flow was stable (in my understanding).
Not really sure how this one regulates pressure.