Group 31 batt in stock location?

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Could I squeeze a Group 31 battery in the stock location? Probably have to modify the batt tray. I believe our stock batts are group 34.

34 = 10 1/4 x 6 13/16 x 7 7/8
31 = 13 x 6 13/16 x 9 7/16

The extra 2 3/4 in. length probably wouldn't be too much of a problem, but the extra 1.5" height?

[turbovanman²]

Just get the right battery! ;)

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Just get the right battery! ;)

Its all about the $$

[89ShelbyGuy]

Yea simon...we are not Mr.Moneybags like you are. :p

And your right...its probably an extra 30 bucks for the right battery...actually..when i bought mine i bought a 50 bucks one..and the one that belongs in it was like 90-100 bucks...

Sometimes when you need something that you don't plan on, cheaper is better.

Tom

[supercrackerbox]

Get a Group 26.

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Theres a GREAT deal on Group 31's right now. I don't see it fitting due to its height. *sigh*

[Speedeuphoria]

Theres a GREAT deal on Group 31's right now. I don't see it fitting due to its height. *sigh*

Where's the deal at??

I think I can only fit a group 34 in my 03 Stratus though, have to measure

BTW its for stereo equip, as thats about as big as they get

[1966 dart wagon]

get an interstate 'blem' they have cheaper versions of there batteries, the stock size is 34 i believe, I bought one of there blems, all it is, is either a battery past its 'shelf life' or one that was defected returned to the factory but still good and or rebuilt.

Well I've had that battery for over 2 years now, let it sit in the car hooked up all winter(dont drive it) and fired right up always, no problems, cost me around 30 bucks, hell of a deal!

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I'll be running Deka batteries. Right now I can get a blem Deka 31 for about $100. A new Deka 34 is about $250.

I'll just put two 31's in the back and not run a front battery until I find a deal on a Deka 34.

[Speedeuphoria]

what you think about these? was thinking about grabbing the 34 or a Deka if I find a deal.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02850034000P?vName=Automotive&cName=Batteries&Chargers&sName=Automotive%20Batteries&sid=IDx20070921x00003a&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=02850034000P
may even be able to squeeze a group 65 in mine??
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02850065000P?vName=Automotive&cName=Batteries&Chargers&sName=Automotive%20Batteries&sid=IDx20070921x00003a&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=02850065000P
They were just onsale for $180, but i think I can do better with a little slick deals

The 34's are online for like $151:never heard of this place though
http://www.batteryprice.com/deka-9A34m-agm-marine-group34m-battery.aspx

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what you think about these? was thinking about grabbing the 34 or a Deka if I find a deal.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02850034000P?vName=Automotive&cName=Batteries&Chargers&sName=Automotive%20Batteries&sid=IDx20070921x00003a&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=02850034000P
may even be able to squeeze a group 65 in mine??
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02850065000P?vName=Automotive&cName=Batteries&Chargers&sName=Automotive%20Batteries&sid=IDx20070921x00003a&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=02850065000P
They were just onsale for $180, but i think I can do better with a little slick deals

The 34's are online for like $151:never heard of this place though
http://www.batteryprice.com/deka-9A34m-agm-marine-group34m-battery.aspx


if you just want lead acid, sears is fine. i like interstate.

check shipping on that deka. $60+ puts it over $200

[turbovanman²]

I'll be running Deka batteries. Right now I can get a blem Deka 31 for about $100. A new Deka 34 is about $250.

I'll just put two 31's in the back and not run a front battery until I find a deal on a Deka 34.

$250? Yikes.

Find a good used one, I've bought many a good used battery from the wreckers, $20, just look at them and pick the newest looking and brand name unit, see if there are any dates on them. CL you might find the Honda Optima battery for a deal, that's what I use right now.

If you want new, Sears, Walmart, Costco, Interstate.

[Speedeuphoria]

if you just want lead acid, sears is fine.
Sears Platinum is AGM;)

$250? Yikes.

Find a good used one, I've bought many a good used battery from the wreckers, $20, just look at them and pick the newest looking and brand name unit, see if there are any dates on them. CL you might find the Honda Optima battery for a deal, that's what I use right now.

If you want new, Sears, Walmart, Costco, Interstate.

Again we're going for AGM battries

[RoadWarrior222]

In what?

P-bodies have no spare hood clearance, might fit in a minivan, Ive got a 91 Cougar battery in mine at the moment.

[turbovanman²]

Again we're going for AGM battries

Ahh, that would explain the price.

Then go Optima, the Honda ones are around $150

[RoadWarrior222]

What I have got in is group 65, 11 13/16 inches, it barely clears the kickdown rod. Another quarter inch might squeeze in, but forget a 13 inch long batt for an auto.

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$250? Yikes.

Find a good used one, I've bought many a good used battery from the wreckers, $20, just look at them and pick the newest looking and brand name unit, see if there are any dates on them. CL you might find the Honda Optima battery for a deal, that's what I use right now.

If you want new, Sears, Walmart, Costco, Interstate.

Not looking for "just a battery" here. Will probably have three total.


In what?

P-bodies have no spare hood clearance, might fit in a minivan, Ive got a 91 Cougar battery in mine at the moment.

Yes, P-body. Already measured. It ain't gonna fit up front.


Ahh, that would explain the price.

Then go Optima, the Honda ones are around $150

Optima.... not quite all they used to be. Personally, I've never had a problem with an Optima that was properly taken care of, but I've read plenty about problems.


What I have got in is group 65, 11 13/16 inches, it barely clears the kickdown rod. Another quarter inch might squeeze in, but forget a 13 inch long batt for an auto.

Yeah, the 31 just simply won't fit in the stock location.

[JDAWG]

Optima batteries are poop

You have the right idea, Deka Intimidator all the way, a Sears Platinum is a relabeled Odyssey, great battery also. Why not just add a second battery out back? If you have amps in there your wire is already there, dont forget the bigger alt and big 3.
A group 34 should fit no problems or a 9A78DT should too. A 9A34M has the wing nut posts so you can add wires easily without cutting factory stuff, and a 9A78DT has dual posts so you can add wires to the side posts without cutting factory stuff. I have had a Deka Intimidator 9A78DT in 3 different cars (daytona, caravan, intrepid) for about 4-5 years now and it still goes strong, about to add a 9A31 to the back.
Got my 9A31 Deka Int from here, they are sold out but they have some 34s and 9A78DTs left.
http://rebirthauto.com/absorbedglassmatagmbattery.aspx

I would get a 9A78DT up front, leave the factory wires, add all your extras to the side posts, and then 2 34s to the back, how much power are you going to be running? The place is in florida and I live in MD, shipping on the 9A31 was about $40 and its about 60lbs so that give you an idea for shipping.

[Juggy]

dont get a battery that is taller then stock

i actually slapped in a random batter into my old spirit and was wondering why the car surged sometimes and had wierd elec probs....well one day i went to open the hood and it was stuck...........the freakin battery welded itself to the hood :lol: burning a nice hole in the underside of it.......funny yet scary lol

[89FerrariShelby]

my battery is too tall, but i just got terminal connecters with plastic covers! =)

if i ever figure out how to add a battery to the back, i'll probably move that one out back and get a regular battery for under the hood.

To put batteries in the back you just run another wire from the alternator back? or can you just connect it to the front battery? i'm so confused by what i'd need to run...

[Juggy]

my battery is too tall, but i just got terminal connecters with plastic covers! =)

if i ever figure out how to add a battery to the back, i'll probably move that one out back and get a regular battery for under the hood.

To put batteries in the back you just run another wire from the alternator back? or can you just connect it to the front battery? i'm so confused by what i'd need to run...

run a line from the alternator to the rear battery. make sure there is a 150? amp fuse in line close to the alternator

[JDAWG]

you really shouldnt run 2 different types of battery, I have seen it done but I wouldnt, really you shouldnt even run an older and a newer battery, you should get 2 with the same date code, again I have seen it done and it worked fine but there is a chance that one cold draw off the other killing one of them

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Optima batteries are poop

You have the right idea, Deka Intimidator all the way, a Sears Platinum is a relabeled Odyssey, great battery also. Why not just add a second battery out back? If you have amps in there your wire is already there, dont forget the bigger alt and big 3.
A group 34 should fit no problems or a 9A78DT should too. A 9A34M has the wing nut posts so you can add wires easily without cutting factory stuff, and a 9A78DT has dual posts so you can add wires to the side posts without cutting factory stuff. I have had a Deka Intimidator 9A78DT in 3 different cars (daytona, caravan, intrepid) for about 4-5 years now and it still goes strong, about to add a 9A31 to the back.
Got my 9A31 Deka Int from here, they are sold out but they have some 34s and 9A78DTs left.
http://rebirthauto.com/absorbedglassmatagmbattery.aspx

I KNEW JDawg would understand. :) I'm overkilling my electrical for 1500-2000 watts in case (or, actually, for WHEN) I decide I need to upgrade.

The price on that 9A78DT is AMAZING. Ordering NOW.

Don't want to put a Deka 31 in the back with a lead acid in front. I don't think that would be a good idea at all.

Hit every welding shop in town this weekend and found NO 1/0 welding cable. *sigh* Guess I have to order that, too.

I would get a 9A78DT up front, leave the factory wires, add all your extras to the side posts, and then 2 34s to the back, how much power are you going to be running? The place is in florida and I live in MD, shipping on the 9A31 was about $40 and its about 60lbs so that give you an idea for shipping.

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WARNING!!

I see some possible SAFETY HAZARDS in this thread.

A battery is a POWER SOURCE. You cannot turn it off. Whether it is in the front or the back, it is a SOURCE OF POWER YOU CAN'T TURN OFF. If you run a cable from the front battery to the back battery or from your alt to your back battery, PUT A FUSE AT THE BACK BATTERY.

I've seen it too many times. Front batter->fuse->20' of wire->back battery. Somewhere along the wire it shorts out. The front fuse blows, the back battery discharges until the car burns down.

[JDAWG]

2 AGM should be fine with the bigger alternator and the Big 3 done, Im running 2000w rms right now (or was till I blew my sub lol) but with the Big 2 done (alt to batt and batt to ground I still have to do block to ground) 160amp alt and a 9A78DT I sometimes dropped down to 11.9 really hammering on it, with the other battery put in and the block to ground wire installed I think I will be ok. I tested a bunch of locations on top the engine with my fluke but could find a good low resistance spot so I have to jack up the car and do it on the bottom where the factory ground is. On the Daytona I grounded the block in one spot and also redid the manifold to firewall ground and just that with the Deka battery added I picked up a full volt at idle. The stock electrical on these cars is terrible. This is where I buy my cable in 50ft rolls
http://cgi.ebay.com/1-0-WELDING-CABLE-50ft-coil-MADE-USA-/300453538580?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f46d2b14#ht_500wt_916
Its super flexy and has a dual jacket. Great price too.
Here is another idea I didnt get to try out to make sure it works, get one of these
http://cpgenerator.com/voltageregulators.html
About half way down the page is an adjustable that you can set max to 15.1v, I dont see why it wouldnt work, same as bypassing the computer when it dies.

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I ought this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150438386541&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

I don't think I'll need 50' so...


On the voltage reg... how much voltage can the stock electronics handle? Would 15v cause problems with the SBEC?

[89FerrariShelby]

that's enough to scare me off. Guess i just need to determine a way to figure out the battery working as is....good luck prepared...i'm sure you're better off than i'd ever be.

[JDAWG]

alot of guys run 15v, only thing that scares me is the old wiring, i was going to give it a shot, but atleast if you voltage is hangin kind of low you can turn it up a little bit, in the winter time it should be a lil higher anyways, I meausred my daytona at 14.6 one time with all the upgrades in the winter time

Im always working on different cars so its nice to have the wire hangin around, who knows when the price of copper is going to shoot back up