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beeblebrox82
07-19-2010, 11:49 PM
Newbie Checking in! I've been looking into a project car for a little bit now, and my wife and I settled on something out of the 80s turbo mopar collection. We both grew up on these little cars (I had a Reliant, she had an Omni) so getting one of these was like coming back to our roots. Found a Shelby Z on craigslist in Indianapolis and had to get it.

Went down to Indy this weekend and picked it up!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010070.jpg

1987 Dodge Daytona Shelby Z
Turbo II 2.2L
Getrag 5 speed transmission
Sun and shade package
Enthusiast seats

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010074.jpg
Can anyone confirm the hood year? I believe it's a 91? Has VNT stickers on each side that I need to peel off.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010075.jpg
Look how long it is compared to my trep!! I was surprised!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010078.jpg
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Tonneau cover!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010083.jpg
Enthusiast seats are in great shape, few very small cigarette burns. Recline mechanism is broken on both.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010084.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010085.jpg


The paint is really really rough, but it's pretty mechanically sound. Good shocks and struts, no major body damage and very little under body rust. The rockers are solid and the only areas are concern is the drivers side floor board (easy fix) and the spare tire well (got a bead on a donor car.)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010087.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010086.jpg
rest of the underbody looks like this. Wonderbar!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010088.jpg


Previous owner said that on start up the car is not getting oil pressure. I suspect oil pump or pick up. Engine has the 2.4 lifters installed and was supposedly rebuilt by the previous previous owner... who I don't trust at all based on the awful wiring hack and slash in the engine bay.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010094.jpg
WTF?!? Inexcusable. Some sort of fan bypass.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010095.jpg
Not sure what went on here... cut wires. Connector just hangin' out. Yuck.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010097.jpg

Filled a page full of notes and immediately headed to the yard this afternoon where I had previously spied a Shelby Z that had no business being there.
Got about 75% of what i was after, including a complete sunroof and two gorgeous recline mechanisms from a la baron coupe. Got lots of trim odds and ends, lots of bulbs for the message center and some floor mats.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010098.jpg



Oh - and I have louvers... I really don't like it, but everyone else does. Not sure what's going to happen with them yet. My wife says they have to go on because it makes it "80's-tastic" Not sure if that's good or bad LOL.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010099.jpg



First steps:
Find oil pressure problem
replace seat recliners. (drivers seat is leaning, will need a close look.)

Should be able to drive her then. This winter I'lll continue to clean up the engine and interior, and fix the rust issues. then next summer she'll go to paint! There's an amazing amount of room in these little cars. I can stretch out completely inside. Should be an awesome little car!!! :love:

beeblebrox82
07-19-2010, 11:51 PM
Laundry list... in some sort of order... and much more to add I'm sure.

-Find and fix the oil pressure problem
-replace accessory belts, change all fuilds (the oil is nasty!)
-Investigate parking brake... appears to not be working
-Clean Clean Clean!
-Check all electronics
-Fix door cards
-repair replace all trim odds and ends
-Completely rewire engine compartment... back to stock
-Completely redo the vac system
-Replace wiper control stalk
-fix tonneau cover reel
-Replace floor pan on drivers side
-replace/repair spare tire well.
-Replace front facia.
-rust management on exterior surfaces
-Get AC working


Honestly the engine might be coming out just so I can clean it all up properly. I need to give it a real good look and see how much work needs to be done.

Still need lots of little pieces and odds and ends.

Incidentally.. is there supposed to be some sort of bezel around the door handle?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010101.jpg


Lots of work to do! Looking forward to hanging out and learning from you pros.

135sohc
07-19-2010, 11:55 PM
Those plastic bezel pieces around the door handle are common to break and go missing.

Other than the hackjob wiring and rust it looks like everything else is there including the desirable 2 piece intake.

cordes
07-20-2010, 12:04 AM
+1 for bezels being there originally. My car came with them, but I haven't looked at how to put them back on, or if they are actually broken. I'm assuming that they are.

turbokid
07-20-2010, 12:54 AM
Looks like a good project. I am glad you are working on it and restoring it!
As for your oil pressure issue, might I suggest putting a manual gauge on it and seeing if the oil pressure is really low or if the sender is crappy. They are known to go out.
But before you do that definitely change the oil.

beeblebrox82
07-20-2010, 07:13 AM
Looks like a good project. I am glad you are working on it and restoring it!
As for your oil pressure issue, might I suggest putting a manual gauge on it and seeing if the oil pressure is really low or if the sender is crappy. They are known to go out.
But before you do that definitely change the oil.

Yep, that's the plan! I discovered a mechanical gauge hanging out below the dash, but I'm not going to trust someone elses work. Will get a new gauge and check the pressure first. Might just be a clogged pick up too.

Darkapollo
07-20-2010, 08:52 AM
Looks like an easy weekend fixer.

My wife hates the louvers on my 86, but I told her not only do they scream 'this car was made in the 80's!!' but I had her sit in the back on a bright day (the car is not running yet, so it sits in my backyard) with and with out the louvers (it does have the rear window shades, but they only help a little) as well as in the front and looking out the rear view. I think she understands the need for them on the 50sq/ft of rear window glass now ;)

moparman76_69
07-20-2010, 11:15 AM
If the wiring is hacked up and you want to go to SMEC electronics I have a 88 daytona engine harness and might have the dash harness also.

I must of missed this car on craiglist or it was out of my price range cuz i didn't see it.


Oh and..... 42

beeblebrox82
07-20-2010, 07:55 PM
If the wiring is hacked up and you want to go to SMEC electronics I have a 88 daytona engine harness and might have the dash harness also.

I must of missed this car on craiglist or it was out of my price range cuz i didn't see it.


Oh and..... 42

Any particular benefit to moving to the SMEC electronics?


I'm kind of going back and forth as to how good a deal it was... if I don't get any big surprises, it was a good deal. Either way :love:


Oh and.... :thumb:

turbokid
07-20-2010, 08:05 PM
Well moving to smec electronics will delete the 2 computer system and leave it to a single module

omni_840
07-20-2010, 09:43 PM
First of all welcome!

Looking forward to progress pics:nod:

moparman76_69
07-20-2010, 10:34 PM
Any particular benefit to moving to the SMEC electronics?


Well moving to smec electronics will delete the 2 computer system and leave it to a single module

The main things would be a single computer instead of two and the wider availability of SMECs vs Logic modules.

You can get cals for both but SMEC cores are easier to come by.

beeblebrox82
07-20-2010, 10:56 PM
The main things would be a single computer instead of two and the wider availability of SMECs vs Logic modules.

You can get cals for both but SMEC cores are easier to come by.

gotcha. So future expansion. Makes perfect sense. I really need to survey the damage... but I'm just not comfortable with wire splices under the hood, and there's going to be several here. Trying to figure out why they would bypass the fan electronics in the 1st place...

moparman76_69
07-21-2010, 07:11 AM
Fan relay may have died and they bypassed it.

beeblebrox82
07-30-2010, 09:43 PM
Well business has been slow, mostly because I spent all of my disposable cash on the car, but I have picked up a few more odds and ends just hunting through the yards.

A new front fascia: Really nice condition, Not horribly painted over 4 times like the once currently on the car.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010001.jpg

Same car had near MINT condition window tracks and drivers side door seal. Also got a new cup holder, and some daytona door handle bezels ($3!!) as well as a crap load of other bezels, just for the heck of it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010002.jpg



And the highlight of my day look what came in the mail today!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010003.jpg

:love:

Last thing I need to buy is a couple torque wrenches, unbelievably, I've never got around to buying them. But before i drop the pan I need to invest. Might be another few weeks still before I really get to dig in.
:banghead:

turbokid
07-30-2010, 10:11 PM
Sounds like a plan. You can NEVER have enough spare parts. I have my own salvage yard at my disposal (litterally) and there are still parts I need LOL.
When you attempt that wiring disaster, you are gonna want those service manuals forsure. Thats a GREAT buy.
You are coming a long great. Before you know it, the cars motor will be out in pieces on the garage, you will be hunting NOS pieces on eBAY and you wont even wanna look at the pile of reciepts LMAO

beeblebrox82
07-30-2010, 10:17 PM
Thanks! I've been fairly lucky with parts so far, I think I have 80% of what i needed. I can't wait to dig into the motor.


Quick question - Is the 88 instrument cluster compatable with the 87? There's an 88 in my yard - Mine appears to have a dead oil pressure gauge, the needle is buried well below zero.

JohnnyIroc
07-30-2010, 10:30 PM
awesome project man!
looking forward to updates

86seeS
07-30-2010, 10:34 PM
indiana wants its car back!!!! nice project man dont see how i missed it eather.... looking forward to seeing more progress :thumb:

turbokid
07-30-2010, 10:55 PM
Thanks! I've been fairly lucky with parts so far, I think I have 80% of what i needed. I can't wait to dig into the motor.


Quick question - Is the 88 instrument cluster compatable with the 87? There's an 88 in my yard - Mine appears to have a dead oil pressure gauge, the needle is buried well below zero.

Yes. Sounds like a sender issue though. Have you plugged the stock sender in?

beeblebrox82
07-30-2010, 10:59 PM
Yes. Sounds like a sender issue though. Have you plugged the stock sender in?

Sender was AWOL, They rigged up a mechanical gauge. I nabbed a new sender from a labaron in the yard, looks almost new. I suppose i should hook it up before I deem the cluster bad. Either way. I'm going to drop the pan and the oil pump just for inspection purposes. Replace pump if needed, change the oil, start it up and see what i get on the mechanical gauge. If everything is happy then I'll try to get the factory gauge working again.


I'm sure I'll eventually set some gauge pods up but in the meantime I'd like to just get it back to stock.

beeblebrox82
07-31-2010, 03:15 PM
So it turns out (thank you mopar engineers!!) That the spare tire well of a 1993 Shadow is exactly the same as my Daytona's. They crushed the Shelby Z I was going to cut up, but this one is even better!!! Had to lift the back of the car with an engine hoist and reset it on the frame rails, as they had it propped up on a wheel right on the well. Once that was done it was quick work with the saws all!

Little dented from the car sitting on it, nothing that can't be pounded out.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010008.jpg


Some surface rust down in the bottom, but it's solid!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010009.jpg

Also scored the spare tire cover board and I picked up the instrument cluster, if only just to have to play with later.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010011.jpg


Super excited to get that tire well found!!

shelbymonster
08-01-2010, 07:42 PM
nice find ! looks like mine , and welcome to the forum , every questions got an answer here !

turbokid
08-01-2010, 07:46 PM
Excellent find. More parts to add to the stash right?

beeblebrox82
08-04-2010, 12:46 PM
Excellent find. More parts to add to the stash right?

I've got a healthy pile going!

beeblebrox82
08-18-2010, 09:49 PM
Well I finally had a chance to drop the pan and poke around. No smoking gun. The screen on the oil pick up was a little nasty, but Oil still went throuhgh when I dumped some through, so I'm not convinced. The oil filer was actually rusty, so god knows how old it is, perhaps it had failed. there was certainly some sludge in the bottom.


Bottom of the motor looks nice and clean, no obvious problems that I can see. Pan was free of metal and was pretty clean overall.

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hard to get a good picture, but the screen was pretty nasty.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/P1010020.jpg
Little WD40 and a toothbrush took care of the oil pick up screen


On to the oil pump. Spins very smooth, feels nice and tight. I might take it apart but I dunno, see for yourself - seems to be working fine.


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So I'll poke around a bit more tomorrow, then I guess I'll just put it all back together and see what happens.

beeblebrox82
08-19-2010, 08:46 PM
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Next video. Checked the bearings tonight.

beeblebrox82
09-02-2010, 10:08 PM
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making progress! I've got a pretty good laundry list of parts going already.

GLHNSLHT2
09-02-2010, 11:34 PM
If the wiring is hacked up and you want to go to SMEC electronics I have a 88 daytona engine harness and might have the dash harness also.

Converting the 87 daytona to 88 SMEC is a real PITA. They moved the location of the 50 pin to under the dash, and then reversed the sexes on the plug. Took me 4 hours to make sure all the wiring matched, then another 4 to cut and solder onto a spare 87 50 pin connector then 8hrs to remove the stock harness and replace it with the SMEC. Is it worth it? Well if you have a flashable smec and can do cals yourself then YES. If not and are buying cals from a vendor then no, not really.

1BADVAN
09-03-2010, 10:09 AM
cool project good luck with the rebuild, i had the same issue bought a new Spirit R/T and the rods started knocking weeks later, i am interested to see how yours turns out :)

2.216VTurbo
09-03-2010, 10:22 AM
Welcome Beeble. I like where you thread and project are headed.:clap: Now for this.

ACCKK! What's a cast crank doing in there?? 5 SPD intercooled Daytonas left the factory with a forged crank. Unless I am not seeing the pics right, it looks like a 'narrow' parting line (1/16") versus a 'wide' (1/4") line:confused:

4 l-bodies
09-03-2010, 12:02 PM
Welcome Beeble. I like where you thread and project are headed.:clap: Now for this.

ACCKK! What's a cast crank doing in there?? 5 SPD intercooled Daytonas left the factory with a forged crank. Unless I am not seeing the pics right, it looks like a 'narrow' parting line (1/16") versus a 'wide' (1/4") line:confused:

Yep, someone either changed out the crank or the shortblock. Can't tell by the pics if it still has the good TII rods or the LW rods in it. If you can get a small mirror and read the #'s cast into the belt or passenger side of motor on the rod that will tell you which rods you have. 86-88 Lightweight rods are #4323218LW, while the good TII rods are casting #4323958.
While you have the pan off, pull a rod bearing cap or two and look at the condition of the bearing and writing on the back side of bearing. It should have a mfg. and date code on it. If original 87 dated, it should say something like AL-6 with a date code something like 4 87. If they are aftermarket bearings, they will have size and mfg. logo on them.
Also check round tag on top of tranny. It should have a date code of late 86 or early 87. Should read A555 and not A520. Should be final drive ratio of 3.85 and not 3.50.
Looks like a fun project. I've had two 87 shelby Z's. One red with leather, and one silver with cloth. I personally liked the cloth car better.
You may find that sunroof needs to be heavily tinted. Mine would heat up my melon badly. I thought the Man upstairs was attempting to get back at me for all the ants I would burn up with my magnifying glass in my early youth. :evil:
Careful installing the oil pump, it's tricky. You should have it properly aligned so the aux shaft, and oil pump gears are phased correctly. Look in your FSM for details. If installed wrong, you can correct by taking out aux shaft a couple inches and clock correctly.
Good luck on the project!
Todd

beeblebrox82
09-05-2010, 11:36 AM
I have confirmed that the whole block has been changed out at some point. Stamp does not match the VIN. Looks like most of the other shelby stuff was changed over, but I can't see if the Rods/pistons were or not. If there are LW rods in there I'll be in the market for some T2 rods for sure. If the crank is salvageable I'll probably just keep it , based on what I've read s0 far they aren't prone to failure and are lighter. Definitely will be doing more research on that....

beeblebrox82
09-05-2010, 11:36 AM
Motor is out!

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Big catch!
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damn it's dirty!
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New home!
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beeblebrox82
09-05-2010, 11:37 AM
Next steps.

Completely remove and replace vac system

Sit in the compartment with the wiring FSM and figure out what's thrashed.

Clean the crap out of everything.

Drop the crank and inspect the damage

major research on engine rebuild procedures, what aftermarket parts are available etc. This motor will be out of the car all winter.


I have a laundry list of parts to replace, need to spend some more time inspecting the motor and bay to finish the list.

beeblebrox82
09-11-2010, 04:22 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC06371.jpg

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The two outer intake valves have a lot of crud on them.

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Block was at least made in right year, not sure if that's a part number or a serial number on the left there.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC06390.jpg

GLHNSLHT2
09-11-2010, 07:44 PM
Bahh run Chevron gas through it for a year and that stuff will be gone.

ShadowFromHell
09-12-2010, 01:38 PM
I dont know if anyone has said it, but that random plug you found, the grey one. It is for plugging a scanner into the car. :)

beeblebrox82
09-14-2010, 10:20 PM
Bahh run Chevron gas through it for a year and that stuff will be gone.

LOL. Seems like it would be criminally negligent to have the motor this far apart and not put in new valve guides. I should leak check this sucker before I pull the head off though... hmmm.


I dont know if anyone has said it, but that random plug you found, the grey one. It is for plugging a scanner into the car. :)

Nice to have that confirmed! Someone fiom DI.net mentioned that might be the case. Thanks!

beeblebrox82
09-14-2010, 10:20 PM
I used an entire can of engine brite gel on that hunk of sludge I pulled out of the daytona. Turns out it is IS a motor!


Gonna need another can though

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I really wish that damn kid wouldn't have tried to paint it while it was in the car. stupid.

progress is slow, only getting to wrench for a few minutes a night, ah the life of a father of two!! :p Should have it the rest of the way apart in the next few days.

beeblebrox82
05-08-2011, 09:39 PM
Well it's been a long winter and I haven't gotten much done. Was browsing CL and found a deal I couldn't pass up....

An 88 Shelby Z T-Top. Owner was cleaning the garage and needed it out, so I snapped it up for a song. Came with a TON of parts.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010039-1.jpg

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The floors are gone and the quarters and rockers are a disaster. Previous owner had redone about half the floor before they gave up. As much as I love the t-tops The damage to the quarters makes this a lost cause. :( I plan on parting the thing down and scrapping the unibody.

I haven't even been through everything yet but here's the highlights of what I got:

2 whole 87 motors (not pistons in either) with accessories
Another A555
One very nice looking head, possibly recently redone
88 electronics to potentially convert the 87
Nice condition pumpers
Two sets of T-tops
3" downpipe
1 Garrett turbo
1 Mitsu turbo
1 Airesearch turbo (have not fully investegated that one yet)
Full set of charcoal leather enthusiast seats.
+20 injectors (need to check condition)
ported water pump housing
NIB vac block
Full 89-90 body kit (rear bumper, front fascia and side skirts)

The car is basically complete, so I can mix and match just about every piece to find the best parts. I feel really bad that I'll be tearing it down, but the rust damage is just way more than I want to deal with.



So over the next week or two I'll be organizing and cataloging parts and then it's (finally) time to work on the 2.5 and get the car ready to receive it!

turbokid
05-11-2011, 03:41 AM
Wow looks like you found yourself a very nice parts car. Get crack-a-lacking on this beast

Turbo224
05-12-2011, 10:39 AM
Cool project, keep the pictures coming!

beeblebrox82
05-20-2011, 11:56 PM
Been scrubbing on the 2.5 for the past few nights. She's pretty much ready fer a spash of color!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010115.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010116.jpg


Oil pan and valve cover arent staying, so don't look at those :D


Trying to decide if I just want to hit it with some VHT rattle can or if I want to get a whole paint kit from POR15 or similar.



Tomorrow we'll begin cleaning out the engine bay!!

beeblebrox82
05-31-2011, 09:02 PM
Dismantling progressing:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010138.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010136.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010127.jpg


Drivers front floor pan:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010130.jpg

Drivers rear floor pan:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010129.jpg

Passenger front floor pan:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010131.jpg

Passenger rear floor pan:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010133.jpg

---------- Post added at 09:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:56 PM ----------

How are you guys dealing with this rust under the seat bracket?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/problermarea.jpg

beeblebrox82
06-04-2011, 06:11 PM
Pulled the cross member out today:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010015.jpg

The rack was loose on the cross member, look at this crap:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010013.jpg


Bolts have completely failed, and it looks like some knucklehead tried to cut the cross member to get access to put some nuts on those bolts, but gave up. Unbelievable. Thank god for the donor car.


Annoying, because now I have to completely disable the donor car for its crossmember/rack. Was looking forward to buying suspension parts tonight... instead, more dismantling.

ShadowFromHell
06-13-2011, 04:11 PM
You know, the t-top was a conversion to hard top cars... Im sure a guy could convert a hard top to a t-top if he had a complete t-top parts car...

beeblebrox82
06-15-2011, 11:57 PM
You know, the t-top was a conversion to hard top cars... Im sure a guy could convert a hard top to a t-top if he had a complete t-top parts car...

Don't tempt me!!!

beeblebrox82
07-19-2011, 10:59 PM
Still slowly hammering away...

Crossmember number two is out. This one looks fantastic. Working on the 88 has helped affirm my decision to eventually scrap the Donortona though, unbelievable rust underneath. The bolt under the drivers foot well gave me fits, I broke several socket extensions on that damn thing. Still it's out, and it's solid.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010014-1.jpg

The 2.5 is spic and span, ready for some paint:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010017.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010018.jpg


Turbo is completely disassembled, cleaned up, and I picked up a 2.5" swing valve to complete the package.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010020-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010023-1.jpg



Just plodding along....

beeblebrox82
09-24-2011, 08:34 PM
Welding day!!!


Be gentle, it's the first time I've welded on a car.



area under the battery tray had to go... there wasn't much left. Fortunately it was the one spot on the Donertona that wasn't rusted.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09016.jpg


The next series shows some pretty scary business. My guess is that someone hit a parking lot barrier and popped all the spot welds across the bottom of the front cross member. The torque from the motor mount had torn the sheet metal all the way to the top of the member. It had also popped the spot welds in the corners. You could move the entire thing by hand. Yikes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09017.jpg


Welded up the two tears and completely welded in the corners. I also "replaced" the spot welds across the bottom, either where the original ones were, or along side the holes for securing the bottom of the fascia.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09018.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09019.jpg

I'm definitely a welding novice, but I'm pretty comfortable with the penetration and integrity of the welds... had to grind off some bubblegum and reweld a few times. Will hit all these areas with seam sealer of course.



Next!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09020.jpg

beeblebrox82
09-27-2011, 12:55 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09030.jpg

Just whittling away.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09031.jpg

Ug. Sunroof car. Had to cut all this out below the a pillar, will have to weld in a patch before I do the floors.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09032.jpg

Actually had to under cut the cross member in the middle of the car. That's gonna be a fun weld.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09038.jpg

Got the fenders off, ready to start prepping for paint.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09044.jpg

There's Daytona everywhere! A bit over here... a pile over there.

540demon
09-27-2011, 09:29 PM
your parts car looks 80% better than the junk im trying to put together!! sure wish i had a red parts car!

Directconnection
09-27-2011, 09:35 PM
your parts car looks 80% better than the junk im trying to put together!! sure wish i had a red parts car!

You'll find one, I am sure. Just gotta stick around here at TM for a while.... you'll git 'r done!

beeblebrox82
09-28-2011, 10:08 PM
your parts car looks 80% better than the junk im trying to put together!! sure wish i had a red parts car!

Yea it's borderline. I thought seriously about switching cars when I got it. But it's rotted all the way up the firewall. Bad bad inside and underneath; The body is deceiving. Still has lots of good parts though. I'm going to swap over the whole front clip. What do you need? I've got more parts than I know what to do with.

beeblebrox82
09-29-2011, 10:13 PM
Got that hole patched.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09075.jpg

Trying to use as few pieces as possible but I felt it was better to use a smaller piece to fill in under the center cross member. This piece will slide in and gives me a straight line across to weld the main floor piece to. Once this is in I just have to rebuild the ledge in front of the hole I just patched and then it's on to the main piece.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09076.jpg

540demon
09-30-2011, 11:39 AM
Yea it's borderline. I thought seriously about switching cars when I got it. But it's rotted all the way up the firewall. Bad bad inside and underneath; The body is deceiving. Still has lots of good parts though. I'm going to swap over the whole front clip. What do you need? I've got more parts than I know what to do with.
Oh crap...where to start?!
I need a right fender a nose all the rear emblems almost every interior part a headlight module front chin spoiler....its bad over here!!!!
going to look at a potential parts car tomorrow. Hoping for a goldmine....or a miracle!!

540demon
10-03-2011, 11:43 AM
Got my parts car home yesterday. Killed what was left of the chin spoiler. Still lacking the Daytona and Shelby rear emblems,the rear interior tail panel,and the tonneau cover.
Wanna sell any of that stuff?
if you can shoot me some prices. Would need em shipped to 24064
Thanks man....and there's no rush on my end...I got MORE than enough to keep me busy for a while!!

beeblebrox82
10-03-2011, 05:54 PM
I'll see what I got. I think I have 3-4 tonneau covers. I know my rear emblems are in lousy shape as well.

540demon
10-03-2011, 06:56 PM
I'll see what I got. I think I have 3-4 tonneau covers. I know my rear emblems are in lousy shape as well.Lousy emblems would be better than no emblems! I had figured on painting whatever I found. If you decide you wanna get rid of any of that lemme know! Thanks.

beeblebrox82
10-12-2011, 09:36 PM
Front floor plan is done!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09141.jpg

All welded up, Had to have the wife hold in the little piece up by the wheel well. She's a trooper.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09147.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09149.jpg
painted and seams sealed.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09143.jpg



Sealed up up solid underneath... seems a little messy in the picture... was doing my best to make sure the rocker was all filled in. This seam sealer I got is really gooey.



So, just a few smaller (straighter) patches in the back and we're done!!. Also took a minute to put some color in my name. :D

135sohc
10-12-2011, 11:05 PM
Floor pan looks good.

540demon
10-13-2011, 10:14 AM
It looks good! I got my pans finished last night and threw the carpet in....sure is a lotta work....that's unseen ain't it?

beeblebrox82
10-13-2011, 11:28 AM
Floor pan looks good.

Thanks!


It looks good! I got my pans finished last night and threw the carpet in....sure is a lotta work....that's unseen ain't it?

Yea it'll all be under the carpet or underbody treatment eventually. A whole lot of work for something no one will ever see :confused:

beeblebrox82
10-15-2011, 05:21 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09178.jpg

Hooray! Once the paint cures up a bit I'll be officially re-assembling!!! :love: Gonna get hung up by a temporary funds issue, our furnace is dead (damnit.) I think the only thing of highish cost I still need are SS turbo lines.

...And since one area is coming together, might as well cut some holes elsewhere. ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09179.jpg

beeblebrox82
10-18-2011, 04:02 PM
The "square hole-round peg" issue with converting to 88 electronics is bothersome. That is all.

john1320
10-18-2011, 09:51 PM
Wow, just caught up on your build-up, floor looks great! Keep up the good work, you've given me motivation for finishing mine.

beeblebrox82
10-23-2011, 11:17 PM
Wow, just caught up on your build-up, floor looks great! Keep up the good work, you've given me motivation for finishing mine.

Thanks!!

Rear pan all fixed!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09187.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09188.jpg


Oh, and see that little bitty hole up at the top of the picture?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010133.jpg


Well...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09189.jpg


FFFFFUUUUUUUUU....

Fuel lines are right under there, and the way the car is positioned, it's not easy to get over there. I think I'm going to put off this last repair until after the car is back on the ground and I can move it away from the garage wall.


...speaking of the cross member... I'm fully convinced that short of hot tanking... these damn things are impossible to clean completely. Close enough! Gonna have to hit it with some paint though.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09192.jpg


ready for new tie rod ends and ball joints... still got to hit up poly bushings.



Oil port blocked off.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09186.jpg

Starting to piece it all back together.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09190.jpg

135sohc
10-23-2011, 11:28 PM
I got my K-frame super clean... By using about 2 gallons of mineral spirits and 5 dozen rags. just keep soaking and wiping until its all gone..

beeblebrox82
10-23-2011, 11:35 PM
I got my K-frame super clean... By using about 2 gallons of mineral spirits and 5 dozen rags. just keep soaking and wiping until its all gone..

Yea, i think I've killed half a pack of shop towels already LOL. I've got to pull the a arms off anyway to replace the bushings, so that will help. Need to get around to measuring my sway bar so I can order a bunch o' poly. :love:

beeblebrox82
11-18-2011, 12:39 AM
Well the donortona is almost ready for the crusher. :yuck:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010015-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010013-1.jpg

Just need to finish pulling the glass and the rear bumper cover... couple other odds and ends.



I've also started re-assembling the engine in earnest. Got new manifold studs on order, so I'm delayed until those come in.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010016.jpg

Looks perdy though.


I'm excited to get half my garage back. Note the other new toy I just picked up. :love:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010018-1.jpg

beeblebrox82
11-18-2011, 12:49 AM
Some questions...

I need to minimize the number of things going on at once, there's just a stupid amount of things I'm changing all at once....

-Wondering if I can run this 89 CB t1 with the garrett on the stock 88 electronics. From what I've read I can run the motor with +20s and it won't run too lean, is there anything else that would hold me up? I'd love to plunk this thing in there and root out the million gremlins I'm sure to have before I go adding custom cals and boost controls and the lot.

-Got a new Gates WP, I'm surprised about how stiff the rotation on it is... does anyone have any experience with these? How easily did they spin out of the box? There appears to be a hole to lube the shaft... but no mention of it in the instructions.

-Motor mounts... Rocking a 2.5 w/o balance shafts... would like to minimize the rattling of my fillings, but I want to keep performance in mind. Any tips oin what combinations of bobble struts, poly and standard motor mounts to use? Not planning on drag racing the car, but I do plan on doing some autoX.


I think after a nice deposit at polybushings I've gathered up just about everything I need to get the suspension and motor back in the car. Can't wait!!


Thanks :)

135sohc
11-18-2011, 01:12 AM
new wp's are gonna have some higher turning resistance vs a used one. That hole is a weep hole for coolant should it make it past the inner seal/bearing. Gives you a little warning by dripping there before the pump goes to crap.

beeblebrox82
11-18-2011, 08:35 PM
new wp's are gonna have some higher turning resistance vs a used one. That hole is a weep hole for coolant should it make it past the inner seal/bearing. Gives you a little warning by dripping there before the pump goes to crap.


good to know thanks. Didn't feel like was binding, but the one for my trep spun much more freely.


Any tidbits from the pros on the programming aspect?

cordes
11-18-2011, 08:42 PM
I wouldn't run the wrong displacement motor for the cal. There's just no good reason to do that anymore.

I have solid poly bushings mounts for my car that has a 2.5 and no balance shafts and it's fine by my standards.

beeblebrox82
11-20-2011, 12:15 AM
I wouldn't run the wrong displacement motor for the cal. There's just no good reason to do that anymore.

I have solid poly bushings mounts for my car that has a 2.5 and no balance shafts and it's fine by my standards.


Hmmm. I just hate to recal the thing over and over.... I guess I need to actually start really digging into what cal I need and what I need to go with it.

beeblebrox82
12-04-2011, 11:29 AM
new hardware for the exhaust manifold came in.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09491.jpg

And I got the new water pump on. Odd, when I turn it is squeals like a piggy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09492.jpg


New ball joints in, Just got to do the tie rod ends and it's ready to go back in the car.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09493.jpg


Nearly successfully removed the windshield, damn thing hung up on one tiny spot and cracked across the passenger front corner. Damnit. Oh well.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09490.jpg

Need to jack up the back and remove the rear brakes etc, then it's crusher time.

beeblebrox82
12-15-2011, 02:05 AM
Well the Donortona is crushed (RIP) and after a little fiasco with the seal on the compressor side (thanks again to the donortona for donating a garrett with a 4pcs carbon seal) the Turbo rebuild is done!!!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/t6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/t5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/t4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/t3.jpg


Almost time to put this 2.5 T2 in her new home!!!

Rampage16V
12-15-2011, 11:05 AM
I think they went with 10mm bolts in 89 over the 8mm on older rack/k frames
Pulled the cross member out today:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010015.jpg

The rack was loose on the cross member, look at this crap:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010013.jpg


Bolts have completely failed, and it looks like some knucklehead tried to cut the cross member to get access to put some nuts on those bolts, but gave up. Unbelievable. Thank god for the donor car.


Annoying, because now I have to completely disable the donor car for its crossmember/rack. Was looking forward to buying suspension parts tonight... instead, more dismantling.

Khajjathefang
12-15-2011, 11:59 AM
Looks good man! I'll def be looking here for reference when its time to do my floors

beeblebrox82
12-15-2011, 12:51 PM
I think they went with 10mm bolts in 89 over the 8mm on older rack/k frames

that would make sense... although with my new rack it would still be the smaller bolts. Oh well, at least it's solid.


Looks good man! I'll def be looking here for reference when its time to do my floors

Thanks!!

beeblebrox82
01-03-2012, 11:55 PM
Ok so near as I can tell, this sucker is ready to go back in. Please take a look and let me know if you see anything I'm missing that is going to trip me up on D-Day. (Drop-Day) Planning on the weekend of 1-28

I know I need to switch out the waterpump pulley, anybody see anything else I need to install before the motor goes back in? Thanks!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09840.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09841.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09843.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09844.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09848.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09850.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09859.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09856.jpg


Still need to buy motor mounts and stuff to clean up the wiring, and vac system stuff, mainly looking for missing pieces on the motor or in the engine bay.

Thanks!!

beeblebrox82
02-05-2012, 02:24 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09938.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09946.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09948.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09949.jpg
Me and pops pouring over the FSMs. Had to get power to the fuel pump to get the two year old gas out.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09956.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09957.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09962.jpg
Suspension 80% back together, just needs tie rod ends and pinch bolts installed, and sway bar.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09964.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09967.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC09968.jpg

All accessories installed, Radiator in, Wiring is still a pretty big mess, lots of work to get that buttoned up, then she's ready to fire!

Current to do list:
-Clean up wiring
-Vac system install (have vac block)
-(TEST FIRE!)
-Buy +40s, 3 bar map, wideband, Fuel system R+R, socket SMEC and get cal
-install 3" exhaust.

cordes
02-05-2012, 02:42 AM
Looks like it's coming right along. Nice work.

beeblebrox82
02-10-2012, 12:37 AM
Looks like it's coming right along. Nice work.

thanks!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/IMG-20120209-00022.jpg

got most of the vacuum plumbing together. Ran out of 5/32 hose... just need to mount up the block and hit the yard for some orifices... I seem to have lost mine. Hopefully that turbo la baron is still there.

GLHNSLHT2
02-10-2012, 01:24 AM
if that's rubber hose I'd be very careful about running it. I just pulled line off a turbo shadow that was rubber and was sucking shut because it got a little warm.

GLHNSLHT2
02-10-2012, 01:36 AM
if that's rubber hose I'd be very careful about running it. I just pulled line off a turbo shadow that was rubber and was sucking shut because it got a little warm.

http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Pneumatic_Components/Flexible_Pneumatic_Tubing_-a-_Hoses Polyurethane or stock Nylon in 100 or 500ft rolls.

beeblebrox82
02-10-2012, 09:50 AM
I was reading quite a bit... rubber vs. poly etc. seems like quite a controversial topic. I will file the link, that's a great site. If I have trouble I will change them over. I specifically routed them to stay away from the exhaust mani and turbo, so hopefully I wont have an issue. The wastegate line would be the most susceptible I would think.


Thanks!

shelbymonster
02-10-2012, 10:50 AM
nice work ! i use clear nylon hose for 4 years and they never crack or pinch the only problem is that they get harder with time but over here its fearly easy to get them

GLHNSLHT2
02-10-2012, 09:13 PM
nice work ! i use clear nylon hose for 4 years and they never crack or pinch the only problem is that they get harder with time


Which means that over time they'll crack.

Beeble the line I replaced on that shadow was 3-4 inches away from the intake and VC. and went straight to the baro solenoid. Just the heat in the engine bay in the fall and winter sucked it shut.

beeblebrox82
02-10-2012, 10:47 PM
Which means that over time they'll crack.

Beeble the line I replaced on that shadow was 3-4 inches away from the intake and VC. and went straight to the baro solenoid. Just the heat in the engine bay in the fall and winter sucked it shut.

You're saying it was permanently sucked shut? Wow. There's alot of different opinions out there, seems like nylon and silicone got the most grief, so since I had easy access to new rubber lines I just went with those. If I have trouble I'll redo it with poly. Not a big deal, now that it's plumbed and cleaned up I could switch them all out in a jiff. Thanks for the tips!

GLHNSLHT2
02-11-2012, 12:09 AM
It basically made a hourglass shape out of the hose. with two little air passages on each end, it deformed the hose at the connector near the intake and cause a vac leak there too. 30" of HG is no air at all. So 20+ on decel and 15-20 at idle has a lot of power to it.

beeblebrox82
02-11-2012, 01:31 AM
It basically made a hourglass shape out of the hose. with two little air passages on each end, it deformed the hose at the connector near the intake and cause a vac leak there too. 30" of HG is no air at all. So 20+ on decel and 15-20 at idle has a lot of power to it.

Yikes! that's pretty wild.


Well I took everything back apart and put it back together without the elbows, couldn't get them all tight at the same time so I gave up on it. Block is now mounted and everything is connected save the cruise/HVAC, waste gate and boost gauge. I think I owe one more tube to the Evap canister as well. Most of that I'll just cap off for testing purposes. This car didn't have cruise originally anyway. (hooray for upgrades!)

Tomorrow is wiring day. I'll finish sorting out the wiring and get it cleaned up, drop the steering column in and give her some gas and see if she'll turn over!!

beeblebrox82
02-13-2012, 01:04 AM
well not as much done this weekend as I hoped. The wife got go out with friends on Saturday, which she doesn't get to do often, so I hung out with the kiddies instead of working on the car. Did accomplish the following today:

-Re-did the vac block (didn't like; now I like :p) and mounted.
-I'm happy to report that I have figured out where every bloody connector on the harness goes, and re-wrapped about 80% of it. Still have to clean up the alternator harness and do some more work on the wires around the SMEC.


Few annoying changes from 87 to 88 that I still need to deal with:

-Air temp plug is different (hoping I can just pop one off of one of my three other intakes)
-Speedo senor plug is different. (that's just damn annoying. Gonna be a splice unless I can take a part the connectors. I hate splicing stuff!!)

I didn't realize it before but my 89 CB has a different oil pressure sender... Opps. so fortunately I have the right one on of my other blocks... I fear I may have sent flag terminal part of the sensor on the original one to the crusher.

This week I should have plenty of time to drop the column in and button up the dash wiring... and after the above stuff is done
it's time to see if this thing works.

beeblebrox82
02-17-2012, 01:21 AM
So let me meter my excitement by saying that fuel, some vac, a few sensors and the radiator are still not hooked up....

but I just turned the key and gave the motor a very healthy crank, a few of them in fact. Sounded very good. This weekend I'll button the rest up and we'll add some fuel to the equation.

beeblebrox82
02-18-2012, 08:45 PM
turned the key tonight. Got a few random fires but for the most part she wouldn't go. Pulled the plugs and they were soaked, they don't look too bad, but I'm going to get new ones anyway. Need to double check the timing, I'll probably do some compression tests as well.

Rampage16V
02-18-2012, 09:20 PM
Looks great will be running soon!!

beeblebrox82
02-19-2012, 02:08 PM
Looks great will be running soon!!

thanks. Tinkered around more with it last night. Verified good spark out of the coil, cam timing mark is right perfect in the window when the flywheel is at TDC, so I'm pretty confidant I have the belt on right. Hooked up the timing light and I'm not seeing a mark at all on the flywheel while cranking... I'm think maybe somehow I got the distributor timed out of whack.

---------- Post added at 01:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:06 PM ----------

As far as trying to check timing without flooding the car, anyway to keep the spark going while disabling the fuel? Pulling the plug on the injectors stops the motor from firing altogether.

beeblebrox82
03-05-2012, 01:59 AM
The engine is running and idling smooth, and today all four wheels hit the floor for the first time in ages. Tuesday I'm taking the day off to finish up some welding and hopefully putting the front clip back on... I discovered some potential complications with the k-frame tonight, that may be a setback.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC00015.jpg

getting there....

beeblebrox82
03-06-2012, 11:07 PM
baby steps... She moved today! Took the day off and got alot done.

backed out of the garage and then back into the middle, I don't know why that seems like such a big deal... made it real easy to work on, buttoned up the last bit of rust on the passenger side, then put the front clip on. Starting to actually look like a daytona!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/IMG-20120306-00045.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/IMG-20120306-00047.jpg

Official to do list (somewhat ordered)

source and install +20s and wideband (got some leads)
source 89/90 K-frame and install, new bushings for swaybar
source correct speedo sensor, or hack and slash...
hook up cruise control.
re-install interior
button up engine bay
3" exhaust
new (real) boost gauge
***shakedown cruise***

beeblebrox82
03-11-2012, 12:04 AM
got a new crossmember from a 1990 Labaron, very good shape. so that problem is solved. Power washed the carpet today, interior re-installation will continue through this week.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/IMG-20120310-00050.jpg


somewhere in here is a complete interior.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/IMG-20120310-00054.jpg

beeblebrox82
05-28-2012, 12:38 AM
Finally got some time today to tinker. Got the new crossmember loaded up with new ball joints, and the sway bar with poly bushings.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/IMG-20120527-00163.jpg

Lovin' this 89 K-frame unbelievable how much larger bolts are to hold the rack. Check out the difference from 87 to 89:

V\http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/IMG-20120527-00164.jpg

Also replaced the high side power steering line, hopefully that solves the problem of it pissing PS fluid everywhere. Bobble strut mount welded on.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/IMG-20120527-00167.jpg

Already to go in tomorrow!

I also modified the exhaust flange so that it will mate to the larger swingvalve, hooked that up and fired her up. Damn, with the exhaust muffled a bit, she sounds awesome as hell. I mean really awesome. Really. Revs strong, sounds fantastic. I am excite.

-Install CM and button up suspension
-Finish interior
-Put lower ground effects/hood back on.
-button up electrics
-replace rear calipers with 88 model, or at least unseize the parking brake on the current ones for now.
**TEST DRIVE/minor shakedown (no boost)
-3in exhaust+wideband
-new boost gauge
+20 injectors
-New fuel pump, AFPR if required.
**Full shakedown time.

---------- Post added at 12:38 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:36 AM ----------

Finally got some time today to tinker. Got the new crossmember loaded up with new ball joints, and the sway bar with poly bushings.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/IMG-20120527-00163.jpg

Lovin' this 89 K-frame unbelievable how much larger bolts are to hold the rack. Check out the difference from 87 to 89:

V\http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/IMG-20120527-00164.jpg

Also replaced the high side power steering line, hopefully that solves the problem of it pissing PS fluid everywhere. Bobble strut mount welded on.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/IMG-20120527-00167.jpg

Already to go in tomorrow!

I also modified the exhaust flange so that it will mate to the larger swingvalve, hooked that up and fired her up. Damn, with the exhaust muffled a bit, she sounds awesome as hell. I mean really awesome. Really. Revs strong, sounds fantastic. I am excite.

-Install CM and button up suspension
-Finish interior
-Put lower ground effects/hood back on.
-button up electrics
-replace rear calipers with 88 model, or at least unseize the parking brake on the current ones for now.
**TEST DRIVE/minor shakedown (no boost)
-3in exhaust+wideband
-new boost gauge
+20 injectors
-New fuel pump, AFPR if required.
**Full shakedown time.


Also, there's a guy at the end of my street that all of a sudden has THREE GLH chargers... gonna have to stop by and bug him one of these days.

GLHNSLHT2
05-28-2012, 02:22 AM
looks like you got a 5spd mount welded on right?

beeblebrox82
05-28-2012, 10:24 AM
looks like you got a 5spd mount welded on right?

yes sir! Funny, when I cut the mount off the crossmemeber, I realized that someone had welded it on there previously, this is the third car it's seen duty on lol.

bigbarneycars
05-28-2012, 01:00 PM
Cool. Got the Motel all set for SDAC? Your drive time to MATCH will be TWO HOURS FLAT FROM THE TULIP PATCH TO THE MOTEL! Call when you leave, Not when you're passing thru' Portland. My standing record for across the state is 1 hour and 50 minutes from Ypsi to down town tulip patch set on 12/29/62 in a '57 DeSoto Adventure. With a 331 that puppy would fly but that's another story. See Yeah, Jer

beeblebrox82
05-29-2012, 06:51 PM
That's a quick drive! I'm hoping to be there, but I need to get in touch with some SDAC folks at some point, I'm not currently a member, not sure what's required... I know nothing lol! I believe my pops is planning on being in Pontiac on Saturday for the SCCA event anyway, and I'm sure he's gonna want to hang out as well, so very likely we'll caravan and I'll just crash back in Saginaw for the nights at his place, rather than hit the hotel. Work looks to be hectic around then too, so it might just be for Saturday and Sunday... first and foremost, gotta get the car done lol.

moparman76_69
05-29-2012, 09:43 PM
www.sdac.org there is a online system for membership and SDAC sign up.

beeblebrox82
06-10-2012, 02:43 PM
whelp. took it out for a drive today! :)

Seems to be a few problems.

Little bit of a bang when going into 1st... trans was basically dry so I'm wondering if oil was just getting around... shifting into second was smooth as butter.

2nd, and more importantly... it's getting HOT. 3 minute drive around the block and the temp was already at 1/3+ Intake and valve cover were too hot to touch by hand, and smoke was pouring off the turbo/exhaust manifold. I don't see any obvious oil on there, hard to tell whats on top of the manifold... Little smoke in the valve cover too not alot... there's fresh oil up there so it seams like oil is getting through.


Car felt like it had decent power, didn't really give it a lot of gas. felt a little bogged I guess.. heck if I know, I've never driven it before. :p

Any thoughts?

beeblebrox82
06-10-2012, 04:06 PM
pulled a code 22 as well, which is strange, as the gauge is working, rad if full and all hoses were hot.. coolant system seems fine. Not sure if the fan is kicking on or not... I wondering if maybe I have an oil pressure issue, was ticking a bit when I started it.

cordes
06-10-2012, 10:21 PM
pulled a code 22 as well, which is strange, as the gauge is working, rad if full and all hoses were hot.. coolant system seems fine. Not sure if the fan is kicking on or not... I wondering if maybe I have an oil pressure issue, was ticking a bit when I started it.

Code 22 is the coolant temp sensor for the computer. It's not for the gauge in the car. The sender for the gauge is between cyls 1 and 2 on the front of the head. The coolant temp sensor is on the driver's side of the water box.

beeblebrox82
06-10-2012, 10:35 PM
oh damn! Well I will start there... perhaps I'm not kicking the fan on, was 90 degrees out today, gonna get hot quick.

cordes
06-10-2012, 11:10 PM
oh damn! Well I will start there... perhaps I'm not kicking the fan on, was 90 degrees out today, gonna get hot quick.

The code 22 should have the fan on constantly as a fail safe. That's why it comes on when you disconnect the CTS while setting the ign timing.

beeblebrox82
06-10-2012, 11:17 PM
hmmm. not that I noticed. I'll check again tomorrow. Gonna put a laser thermometer on it too just to see if Im worrying over nothing. Perhaps its an old code. CEL was not on.

beeblebrox82
06-14-2012, 09:45 PM
put new terminals on the battery which cleared the 22 code, now no codes after letting it idle for about 5 minutes... during which it pissed a half quart of oil out of the oil pressure sensor manifold. Oops. Top end is a little noisy while running, not terrible, opened the valve cover and I could definitely see oil splattering around up there. Gonna take apart that manifold tomorrow, get my inline filter installed and put a mechanical gauge on it, see what kinda pressure I'm getting. I think I might be making a mountain out of a mole hill, pretty sure I was just burning off PS fluid on my first hot lap. Oh well. Better safe the sorry.

Khajjathefang
06-18-2012, 06:49 PM
Code 22 is the coolant temp sensor for the computer. It's not for the gauge in the car. The sender for the gauge is between cyls 1 and 2 on the front of the head. The coolant temp sensor is on the driver's side of the water box.

pretty sure you've got this one backwards bro. Gauge between 1-2, LM sensor at waterbox

beeblebrox82
06-18-2012, 08:31 PM
pretty sure you've got this one backwards bro. Gauge between 1-2, LM sensor at waterbox

heh, I guess I'll pull one and see which one kicks on the fan.

---------- Post added at 08:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:25 PM ----------

Anyway! I got a manual oil pressure gauge and rigged it up so I can install it whenever I want. Ran the car all the way up to hot, reving it up and poking around.


-By the time the fan kicked on the head was at about 165-170 degrees, never got hotter than that.
-idle oil pressure dropped from 50 at cold start to about 19 at idle with the fans on, temp gauge about 1/3, didnt drop below that for the next few mintues of messing around.
-2000 RPM hot got me an oil pressure of 42 PSI.
-no sign of smoke off the turbo... musta just been PS fluid.
-little bit of a pop on rapid decel... I gather that's normal on the 2.5L especially.
-idling around 700 rpm... as it was warming up it was stumbling just a little bit... by the time it was hot it was fine.

So all seems good as far as I can tell. Time to get her buttoned up and registered and insured and get her out on the road a bit!!!

GLHNSLHT2
06-18-2012, 08:41 PM
pretty sure you've got this one backwards bro. Gauge between 1-2, LM sensor at waterbox

You both said the same thing in a different way.

Khajjathefang
06-19-2012, 07:42 PM
You both said the same thing in a different way.

maybe ninja edit, maybe I read too fast. :lol:

beeblebrox82
06-28-2012, 12:45 AM
So um... kind of a big thing today... ALL THE PARTS ARE ON THE CAR!!!!!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/IMG-20120628-00254.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/IMG-20120628-00255.jpg


Not to say that it's anywhere near "done"... But ALL THE PARTS ARE ON!!!

beeblebrox82
06-28-2012, 10:12 PM
The Daytona is out of the garage! Took her for a spirited and eventful drive around Holland, which included me stranding the car in a busy intersection (It's been a long time since I drove a stick, and I never owned one... I needed some training and some time to get used to it again. Sheesh.) My wife worked up the courage to try out the Daytona. She's been very excited to get her hands on it, after growing up with a 4spd omni. I documented.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010024-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010025-2.jpg

She had no trouble at all with it, proved that the car is running great and shifting fine made me look like an absolute novice LOL. Staying cool, oil pressure stayed up, Turbo spooled up past 10 PSI and quick (trying to keep it down, fuel trim is still whack, don't want to melt a piston.)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010030-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010034.jpg

Look at that focus! Looking through the turn. Future Autocrosser.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010028-2.jpg


Dat G-body ---! Awesome exhaust sounds even on the stock 2.25. It burbles like a V8 on decel. Sounds awesome.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/P1010035-1.jpg


Low idle, even while hot, we had some trouble with it stalling when out of the gas/clutch and decelerating, not terrible, but we lost it a few times. Gotta get that sorted. Other than that she's running great. Awesomes.

omni_840
06-28-2012, 10:19 PM
Congrats!!! It must feel pretty good having the car on the road:nod:

Very cool that your wife went out with you on the maiden voyage:) My wife rode in my GLH for the first time ever a few weeks ago(had the car for over 4 years) she confirmed that it's dangerous and scary:D

moparman76_69
06-28-2012, 10:22 PM
Low idle, even while hot, we had some trouble with it stalling when out of the gas/clutch and decelerating, not terrible, but we lost it a few times. Gotta get that sorted. Other than that she's running great. Awesomes.

Probably just need to adjust the idle screw.

fishcleaner
06-28-2012, 11:53 PM
congrats on getting it on the road, major dedication to that project, way to go

beeblebrox82
06-29-2012, 01:11 AM
Thanks guys! Went out to the garage a little bit ago, not a drop of fluid underneath. :love: Little oil around the dipstick tube, need to reseal that I think. Lord knows why I didn't do that when it was out of the car. Now the real fun begins. She'll go under the knife here pretty quick for 3" exhaust, +20s to get the fuel right, new fuel pump and AFPR if necessary.

beeblebrox82
07-03-2012, 11:36 PM
well idle issue is fixed, was as easy as tweaking the idle adjust screw. Took here out and a bout again today and it seems to be running great, and no stalling issues, no gas required to start. Hooray.

When I got hope there was a little smoke coming from behind the turbo, smelled like clutch, perhaps I'm just getting some grime burned off, or operator error, been awhile since I drove a stick LOL. More concerning, there was some burbling from the coolant reservoir and radiator, lost some coolant too. Hopefully just working air out of the system. Will have to monitor. Car was still only showing half on the temp gauge, head measured at about 205 degrees, so it seems the car is staying cool.

beeblebrox82
07-18-2012, 11:32 PM
Temporary cash flow problem, so the exhaust is on hold for the moment, not to be detered I cut out the broken and clogged cat and welded in a straight pipe, hooked up the wideband and installed the +20s. Wideband is working great and I took the car out for a few miles today. I can cruise around fine, wideband reads between 13-14... when I punch it as soon as I get up past a few thousand RPMs it goes PIG rich, power goes away and it will actually start to backfire. Pooh. I need to check the timing first and foremost.

beeblebrox82
09-25-2012, 10:24 PM
seems like I've been AWOL for longer than two months. Been just busy. ug. Re-timed the car and it's running much better, been cruising around town and she's running very well. Not very happy on cold start up, I'm wondering if I have a leaky injector. After about a minute she purs like an angry kitteh. Runs great around town but as I get well into the boost it still goes wicked rich. Had her up to 88mph (for science!) on the interstate with ease. I assume at this point I'm just stuck with the fuel issues until I can get a cal done. Other than that, only one speaker works lol, minor problem heh.

Got her all cleaned up, Unbelievable the amount of grime on this car. She looks pretty damn good from about 15 feet!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC00536.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC00534.jpg

cordes
09-25-2012, 10:28 PM
A sun roof! Those were rare on the 89' cars. I'm not sure about the 88's though.

beeblebrox82
09-25-2012, 10:32 PM
A sun roof! Those were rare on the 89' cars. I'm not sure about the 88's though.

It's somewhat confusing, as the engine is from an '89, and there's a bunch of '88 crap on it, but it's actually an '87 :D I love having it though, honestly, wouldn't have bought one with out it.

Khajjathefang
09-25-2012, 10:47 PM
I doubt my head would fit without one ;) Car is looking great man! she really cleans up well, time for an exhaust ;)

beeblebrox82
12-08-2012, 12:56 PM
well kind of a sad day. Yesterday the Daytona went down for the winter.... outside. :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/IMG-20121208-00041.jpg

I'm sad to put her outdoors, but really excited not to be uncasing the Trep from a tomb of ice and snow every morning. Just to add insult to injury, it rained THEN snowed on the poor girl in the first night. She's nice and dry underneath though, found a car cover that fits perfect, we'll see how it holds up.



Gathering parts for phase II: (Starting in February)

-All new brake lines, R&R the rest of the brakes
-install '88 rear calipers (discovered the originals are seized... no wonder I wasn't impressed with the stopping power. Oie)
-255 Walbro and AFPR
-Maybe new gas tank just for kicks, since they are so cheap
-Figure out which of the supposedly good +20s I got is dumping gas into the engine. :confused:
-Weld in new spare tire well.
-Socket my spare SMEC and get a Cal sorted out (I have lots of reading to do)
-refinish and powdercoat the crabs.
-Get more than one speaker working, hopefully get that infinity deck running too.
-Exhaust, as duly noted by thefang, will probably wait until later in the summer.



I have high hopes that by the time the snow melts in March/April I'll have all the fueling/calibration stuff sorted out and ready to be tuned in, and solid brakes underneath, and I can have the old gal truly road worthy.

fishcleaner
12-12-2012, 01:05 AM
I have had covers damage the paint by keeping moisture trapped in and bubbling the paint, I have come to the conclusion that a good coat of wax and keeping the car clean is better along with a sun screen on the windows to keep the UV rays out of the interior. If you are sold on the cover I would get some foam pool noodles and keep the cover separated from the paint to alow more air to circulate.

beeblebrox82
03-02-2013, 11:03 PM
Well it's thawing out here in Holland. Time to come out of hibernation and get this girl to 100% I'm already behind schedule.

beeblebrox82
03-24-2013, 04:20 PM
Look what came out of hibernation finally!! Winter stuck around through March, but she's finally out from under the cover. Was frozen to the ground, so I couldn't push it. Once I got electricity in her she started right up and ran like a scolded dog.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/IMG-20130324-00128.jpg


It looks like I bought the wrong size socket for my SMEC, too narrow (anyone got a part number? I cant find one for anything) so once I get that sorted and done, and the cal in, I just need to swap the injectors and R&R the rear brakes and she should be really ready for some shakedown cruising.

beeblebrox82
10-03-2013, 11:40 PM
Summer got away from me but I've been plodding along.

before:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/IMG-20130609-00239.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/beeblebrox82/media/IMG-20130609-00239.jpg.html)

After:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/DSC00960.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/beeblebrox82/media/Daytona/DSC00960.jpg.html)

Calipers R&R'd and new lines from the prop valve back. I finally have a working E-brake!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/005-1.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/beeblebrox82/media/Daytona/005-1.jpg.html)

Finally got this little guy installed:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/boost.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/beeblebrox82/media/Daytona/boost.jpg.html)



Just got to finish the fuel system and swap the injectors (again) and she should be good to go... just in time for winter. Sigh.

beeblebrox82
07-25-2016, 10:35 PM
Hey I still own this thing! Amazing how life gets away from you with a couple young kids in the house.

Have been tinkering off an on the last couple years but just haven't had much time. Chasing brake problems I put new front calipers, MC and rotors on, finally got the thing to stop on a quarter. Been DDing her off and on the last two weeks and my goodness, that boostbutton cal really did the trick! She's fun to drive and noisy as hell. Lots to do but she's moving.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/20160709_204049100_iOS.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/beeblebrox82/media/Daytona/20160709_204049100_iOS.jpg.html)


To do list:

-Actually properly time it (running a bit lean I think, cruising at 14ish, under load it fights to get into the 10s, not that I've been hitting her that hard yet.
-new rear tires, get the right lugs to put the wheel covers on.
-alignment
-install BOV
-Install Boost gauge in factory location
-Fix jumping speedo gauge
-Fix the radio
-replace oil pressure sensor (leaking) and plumb in the inline filter.
-new rearview mirror
-try to fix the drivers seat gangsta lean

2.216VTurbo
07-25-2016, 11:04 PM
From the dead thread pile, nice update! I didn't touch the cars at all when my kids were born for about the first 3 years. Now that they are in HIGH SCHOOL! I've got lotsa time to wrench again. Too many projects tho:o

beeblebrox82
05-24-2017, 11:54 PM
After the rear brakes I decided just to keep going and did new calipers, lines, rotors and MC on the front. Got the airbox cleaned up and sorted out, and started tooling around.

Installed an autometer boost gauge in the factory location, two button traveller (both the navigators I have are duds) and a sweet dimming homelink mirror I fished out of the recycle bin from work. Also put a long sweep oil pressure gauge in the pillar pod with the wideband, so I can really keep tabs on stuff.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/20160813_194309358_iOS.jpg






Finally solved my lack of boost/lean condition by finding a problem with the setup in the fuel pump assembly (leaky hose) She really runs now.

Took her on a 460 mile trip last weekend and she was just a peach.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Danlisle%202017/20170521_163902659_iOS.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/beeblebrox82/media/Danlisle%202017/20170521_163902659_iOS.jpg.html)



The only thing that broke in flight was the passenger wiper assembly, but I did identify a fair amount of other issues.

Odometer is dead
speedometer is bouncing all over.
Fuel won't read below 3/4 tank (self inflected I believe, I put a new tank in, must have dor
Some gas leaking when tank is topped off (new vent valve ordered)
Wiper linkage (parts ordered)
cigarette lighter is dead
Horn doesnt work
interior bulbs out all over the place.
rear hatch is leaking a bit
throwout bearing was a little squeaky on a colder evening.

beeblebrox82
08-08-2017, 10:15 PM
Speedo fixed (connector was broken) Fuel tank leak is fixed and in theory so is the gauge issue (hung up on the return line) Smaller wastegate orifice has brought the boost up to 10PSI.

Running great, So fun to drive. So since it's actually working; time to take it apart again!! It's time for paint!

beeblebrox82
08-09-2017, 11:48 PM
Been hit in the quarter and repaired, I can see the metal work and welding through the speaker opening. Terrible paint job over top is failing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/20170805_150537087_iOS.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/beeblebrox82/media/Daytona/20170805_150537087_iOS.jpg.html)

clear failed on top, no surprise there.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/20170805_150549679_iOS.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/beeblebrox82/media/Daytona/20170805_150549679_iOS.jpg.html)

No idea what this poor fender has been through
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/20170805_150559764_iOS.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/beeblebrox82/media/Daytona/20170805_150559764_iOS.jpg.html)

Lots of little dings.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/20170805_150658890_iOS.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/beeblebrox82/media/Daytona/20170805_150658890_iOS.jpg.html)


Most of the way pulled apart.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/beeblebrox82/Daytona/20170805_203910231_iOS.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/beeblebrox82/media/Daytona/20170805_203910231_iOS.jpg.html)


30 year old trim adhesive is a -----
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My daughter helping me get the adhesive out of the window

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Rough DA sanding

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Surprise bondo and 5 layers of paint :mad:

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More bondo in the door.

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This is the existing damage I knew about. Metal was worked out and the bondo was applied properly, I'm going to leave it alone, just clean it up.

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Mercifully the passenger side is really clean. One big scratch to feather out, and a few dings, but will pretty much get a scuff and shoot

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Hood paint had largely failed. Sanded all the way down to primer

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buttheads put the bondo over the original paint!! So down to the metal here.

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beeblebrox82
09-03-2017, 08:44 PM
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