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J&H Ryan
06-21-2010, 12:10 AM
A little background history:

This is my first car, I bought it at 15 years old, paid cash. Stumbled across it, didn't even know it was a turbo until I called the owner, a young woman who's father purchased it for her as a graduation gift from college. Now married and expecting, it was time for it to go. A little negotiating, and it was mine. My father had to drive it home, as I had no idea how to drive a stick. I taught myself on it, and the clutch survived the experience. It was ever faithful throughout high school, it did very well with the girls in my town, which was of paramount importance to me ;) , and got me around a couple years of college. Eventually the driver's door sagged, and took out the fender. I parked it and bought a series of other TM's and cherokees and it went into storage. Pics of it in HS:

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31946_820821135918_21706959_4498934.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31946_820821140908_21706959_4498935.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31946_820821125938_21706959_4498934.jpg

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/5943790069_medium.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/5943790007_medium.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/5943790002_medium.jpg

Over the past 4 years, I've put in a rebuilt engine, p&p'ed, new S60 turbo, NOS VNT IC/rad, cliff ramsdell 568 large spline rebuilt w/ LSD, eibachs, konis, R1 Rotors, ceramic pads, SS lines, kevlar clutch, new carpeting, HID headlights, LED lighting, SL wing, Lumina Z34 vents, ect, ect...

Deconstruction and planning:

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31946_814501620278_21706959_4473857.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31946_814501600318_21706959_4473857.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31246_813328855508_21706959_4469385.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31246_813328850518_21706959_4469385.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31246_813328830558_21706959_4469385.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31246_813328805608_21706959_4469385.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31246_813328790638_21706959_4469385.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31246_813328166888_21706959_4469385.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31196_809956289158_21706959_4458558.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31196_809956284168_21706959_4458558.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31196_809956279178_21706959_4458558.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31196_809955675388_21706959_4458557.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31196_809955665408_21706959_4458557.jpg

J&H Ryan
06-21-2010, 12:13 AM
Paint!:

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31946_814501670178_21706959_4473857.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31946_814501660198_21706959_4473857.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31946_814501655208_21706959_4473857.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31946_814501630258_21706959_4473857.jpg

Off with the old top:

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/31946_821173350078_21706959_4500035.jpg

New top, interior being reinstalled:

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/36351_824791030218_21706959_4514521.jpg

turbokid
06-21-2010, 12:19 AM
WOW I love your car! That looks GREAT. Keep up the good work.

bakes
06-21-2010, 12:25 AM
Cant wait to see it done !

raccoon
06-21-2010, 12:25 AM
speed holes!

2.216VTurbo
06-21-2010, 10:04 PM
Great thread, subscribed:thumb:

Neon interiror lights? Underdash to look at your feet when you drive at night?

daver
06-22-2010, 09:54 PM
You might think it's ugly, and the headlight's can be difficult/$$ to locate, but the 93+ upper nose with the exposed headlights is significantly lighter than the old flip style. Also not having the motor and rods in in the center behind the grill leaves plenty of room for a big front mount.

J&H Ryan
06-22-2010, 11:22 PM
speed holes!

Wat? The hood vents?


Great thread, subscribed:thumb:

Neon interiror lights? Underdash to look at your feet when you drive at night?
LED, but they wont be on when the car is running, its wired into door open circuit.



You might think it's ugly, and the headlight's can be difficult/$$ to locate, but the 93+ upper nose with the exposed headlights is significantly lighter than the old flip style. Also not having the motor and rods in in the center behind the grill leaves plenty of room for a big front mount.

Those headlights doors are what got me interested in the car though. I first looked into a 66 Charger and 67 Eldorado, but my mom said they were too old. I moved onto newer cars with flip doors, haha. I agree with the FMIC part, but I do indeed think that the 92-95 front end is butt ugly.

Off to be wetsanded and buffed out, final trim installed:

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/2010-06-22145849.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/GTC/2010-06-22145827.jpg

Lotashelbys
06-23-2010, 12:15 AM
Looks pretty awesome so far! I have a twin to that car and was going to be doing the same thing but got too caught up in other cars. It will be this winter before I start on mine. I cant wait to see how yours turns out. Maybe it will inspire me to do mine.......

turboshelbys
07-19-2010, 10:16 AM
Who did the paint?

bakes
07-19-2010, 08:08 PM
Looking good:thumb:

turbokid
07-20-2010, 12:56 AM
Looks pretty awesome so far! I have a twin to that car and was going to be doing the same thing but got too caught up in other cars. It will be this winter before I start on mine. I cant wait to see how yours turns out. Maybe it will inspire me to do mine.......

You need to hire me for a week LMAO!
As for the car, its coming along great. I can't wait to see the finished product. I love the louvers in the hood.
Please keep this upto date.

MarkyB86
08-12-2010, 07:23 PM
Nice work so far!

turbokid
08-17-2010, 01:19 AM
Those headlights doors are what got me interested in the car though. I first looked into a 66 Charger and 67 Eldorado, but my mom said they were too old.

My mom said the same thing with my 66 charger. So... I bought both =)

Reaper1
03-22-2011, 12:20 AM
Nice project! I'm interested in doing LED exterior lighting on my car as well. Any info would be appreciated as some of the htings I'v ebeen reading don't make much sense. I'd also like to see how they look lit up at night. Is there a way you can post pics of that?

J&H Ryan
03-22-2011, 02:48 PM
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/boogts2/DSC05951.jpg

Thats what my Jeep looks like on the inside, and the lebaron will be similar. I may not keep the blue lights I have in the pics above.

As far as exterior, they're easy, I have direct replacement bulbs in the Daytona all around (nothing external is incandescent, except the high beams), the lebaron has the running/brake lights/most interior done, and ill work on the blinkers (they need resistors).

I have all the bulbs needed, just let me know the bulb numbers you need and I can cross reference it.

As far as this thread being updated, I had the car pretty done, and the 8v motor blew a piston land, so its in the middle of a TIII swap, thinking about calling it a Phantom R/TIII now.

glhs0426
03-22-2011, 09:43 PM
Chrysler built VERY few of those cars with a turbo and a stick. I parted out a white auto that was hit hard and put the powertrain in my 92 coupe. Love the 92-95 wheels.

Reaper1
03-23-2011, 12:02 AM
Chrysler built VERY few of those cars with a turbo and a stick. I parted out a white auto that was hit hard and put the powertrain in my 92 coupe. Love the 92-95 wheels.

Very true. The same can be said for the V6/5-speed LeBarons. Most of those were exec cars from what I remember. Maybe this one was as well?

J&H Ryan
03-23-2011, 12:52 PM
Even at SDAC14 I was accused by 1or2 guys of putting that engine/trans in there as "they didn't put turbos and 568's in lebarons in 92". There were 232 +/- 3 92GTC TI 5spd turbo verts. It may be the first convertible TIII clone if I can beat Jackson, who's is identical to mine. I got mine first though ;)

blk86trbo
03-23-2011, 01:42 PM
It may be the first convertible TIII clone if I can beat Jackson, who's is identical to mine. I got mine first though ;)

Um...IIRC, Jackson sold his 92 'vert to Turbokid...

J&H Ryan
03-25-2011, 12:56 PM
Um...IIRC, Jackson sold his 92 'vert to Turbokid...

Just recently? A few months ago he said he was planning to TIII the GTC, but that I would likely get there first.

blk86trbo
03-29-2011, 01:11 AM
Just recently? A few months ago he said he was planning to TIII the GTC, but that I would likely get there first.

There's some info and pics in this thread over on TD...

http://www.turbododge.com/forums/f8/f34/144785-official-lebaron-thread-93.html

J&H Ryan
03-29-2011, 11:59 AM
Yeah, that looks familiar. I guess there will be only one then.

turbokid
03-29-2011, 08:45 PM
Nope. Its gonna get a t3. Just cleaning it up right now and driving it the way it is till I have the stuff for the t3 conversion

J&H Ryan
03-29-2011, 08:57 PM
Ah, guess I should keep track of what I do for the conversion then. Should only be the wiring that is anything abnormal though.

Lotashelbys
03-29-2011, 09:22 PM
Yes I did sell my car. I did keep alot of the LeBaron parts that I acquired for my TIII GTC which I will find another someday. The TIII conversion is easy in these so if you need any help Ryan LMK. I can do the wiring conversion in my head as I have already done 3 of them lol

J&H Ryan
04-29-2011, 07:21 AM
I think I have the wiring down, I'm just comparing the 2.5TI diagrams and the TIII in the FSM. Seems straightforward, just some wire lengthening, haven't gotten into the coil yet though. I'm still trying to figure out what all I'm missing part-wise.

some progress:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/IMG_20110427_113257.jpg

Mocked up:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/IMG_20110428_151549.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/IMG_20110428_154509.jpg

Wore out my best help:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/IMG_20110428_151457.jpg

turbovanmanČ
07-14-2011, 02:58 AM
Love the paint. When do you think you'll have the TIII installed and running?

Turbo224
07-15-2011, 03:54 PM
Subscribed!

J&H Ryan
07-16-2011, 10:49 AM
The engine is in, TIII harness is in, now for mounting the intercooler and piping, misc brackets and lines, ect. The little stuff that takes most of the time it seems. I'll get some pics when I progress more.

Directconnection
09-16-2011, 07:22 PM
How's it going 3 months later? I totally missed this thread....

J&H Ryan
09-16-2011, 08:52 PM
I towed it to my house garage so it would be closer and I've done alot of the smaller work now, figuring out what parts I'm missing (being a TIII newb stinks) getting those in, plumbing the intercooler as nicely as I can with what I have, and then it'll be on to exhaust. Full 3" stainless, 18" of resonator, magnaflow SS muffler. I'm working while going to school full time so this is on the back burner for now unfortunately.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/289238_10100320864317348_21706959_50493966_6777434 _o.jpg

Moparbaby
11-13-2011, 01:40 PM
awesome thread... bump

J&H Ryan
02-06-2012, 01:00 AM
Exhaust parts (more than just for this car), don't mind the garage, the neon has piddled on it and its too cold out there to organize the rest...:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/DSC09550.jpg

As part of the Phantom tribute idea, auto climate control:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/IMAG0658.jpg

Got a Jackson downpipe, done with the expected awesome craftsmanship and he says its guaranteed to fit, and then I hope to get the rest of the exhaust fitted by the end of the month. Then the goal is to having it running by the end of April with shakedown and tuning until SDAC.

Reaper1
02-06-2012, 06:25 PM
Do you need a tonneau cover for the top? I've got a VERY nice black one for sale right now.

J&H Ryan
02-07-2012, 12:49 AM
Do you need a tonneau cover for the top? I've got a VERY nice black one for sale right now.
I have 3, one of which is NOS, so I'm good, but thanks!

Reaper1
02-07-2012, 02:45 PM
Well, fine! LOL ;) Know anybody else that needs one? :)

J&H Ryan
02-07-2012, 08:53 PM
Haha, thought you'd like that. Nope, I don't even know anyone with a lebaron convertible other than the boards.

Reaper1
02-07-2012, 09:52 PM
Fudge...me either. :(

J&H Ryan
04-22-2013, 08:50 PM
Well, the 8v engine blew, the trans rebuild from a supposedly reputable builder was botched...(twice) so this time she's out at Jackson's, starting over:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/0409131522a95309857_zps4ef0c0d4.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/0409131522a95309857_zps4ef0c0d4.jpg.html)

I do all my design work in MSPaint: (for a bracing idea after talking with a Chrysler engineer who helped redesign the lebarons sill for 1992ish MY. Yes, the top bar would be in car. I wouldn't mind the harder entry trade off for a significant increase in rigidity. He said the higher up on the body the bracing the better, not below the car as on the PPG pace car. It actually did very little he thinks.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/Lebaronsideviewbrackets_zps3aa3b70d.png (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/Lebaronsideviewbrackets_zps3aa3b70d.png.html)

Reaper1
04-22-2013, 11:16 PM
You could go lower profile than that even if that's the style bracing you are going to do, and that's all it's going to be is chassis bracing. IMHO if you are going that far, you might as well do a cage. It wouldn't be that much more work and you can put swing-out's in it to help ease entry.

The under-car bracing HAD to do something. Look at Mustangs and the like...they ALL have subframe connectors available for them and they ALL see an appreciable increase in unibody rigidity. It might not be as much as a superstructure style bracing, but it is still enough to make a large difference.

As far as the re-design of the J-body convertible structure, I believe that happened in '90. They basically copied the TC's design where the rocker panels were reinforced to more effectively take on the torsional load of the chassis. Because the strength was increased farther away from the moment of inertia, the unibody now acted more like an "I"-beam and became more resistant to both twisting and longitudinal flex.

J&H Ryan
04-23-2013, 09:05 AM
Why do you say lower? He said ideally you'd have bar going from the a pillar to the B pillar (would there be one) area. You just couldn't get in the car. He said the Sebring has taller sills as well as like an S2000 for the reason of the body wanting to fold up in that area. Will likely still do some sort of under car bracing (see the bar at the bottom in the pic) but it wont be as extensive or thick as originally thought. Also doing a strut tower bar.

I don't want to do a cage because it'll look like a Wrangler. Ever since the PT convertible I don't like the basket handle hoop either.

Reaper1
04-23-2013, 08:20 PM
The only reason I brought up "lower" is because the way I was looking at the drawing it makes it look like the top bar will be around elbow height. That would mak getting in and out of the car...shall we say....fun?

J&H Ryan
04-24-2013, 10:38 AM
I haven't been in my car in awhile, but the top of the bar will be 6" above the top of the sill, so it shouldn't be a factor at all once in the car and ingress and egress, while hampered somewhat, is a trade off I'm willing to make. Decided to keep the idea of subframe connectors, but no X brace. Could always add something to the subframe connectors, but I doubt it will be needed.

J&H Ryan
05-01-2013, 08:54 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/0414131905a95302033_2_zps788bac45.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/0414131905a95302033_2_zps788bac45.jpg.html)

Reaper1
05-01-2013, 10:49 PM
Looking good! :thumb:

J&H Ryan
05-02-2013, 09:07 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/0430131823a95305160_zps06363108.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/0430131823a95305160_zps06363108.jpg.html)

Reaper1
05-02-2013, 11:49 PM
That's kinda neat to see! I like the bird! LOL

J&H Ryan
05-12-2013, 03:57 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/0430132238a95290810_2_zpsa4a2fb4d.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/0430132238a95290810_2_zpsa4a2fb4d.jpg.html)

Lotashelbys
05-22-2013, 01:19 AM
Heres some more paint progress pics of Ryans car


Final sanded primer before sealer
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/lotashelbys/100_0388_zps62b09fca.jpg (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/lotashelbys/media/100_0388_zps62b09fca.jpg.html)

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/lotashelbys/100_0389_zps81166f6d.jpg (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/lotashelbys/media/100_0389_zps81166f6d.jpg.html)

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/lotashelbys/100_0390_zps048e70d6.jpg (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/lotashelbys/media/100_0390_zps048e70d6.jpg.html)

Sealed
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/lotashelbys/100_0394_zps186dc684.jpg (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/lotashelbys/media/100_0394_zps186dc684.jpg.html)

Some loser attempting to spray basecoat
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/lotashelbys/100_0395_zpse3517e62.jpg (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/lotashelbys/media/100_0395_zpse3517e62.jpg.html)

Still trying
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/lotashelbys/100_0400_zps8e3d9eaf.jpg (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/lotashelbys/media/100_0400_zps8e3d9eaf.jpg.html)

Wetsanded and buffed pass side
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/lotashelbys/100_0402_zps37b7baaa.jpg (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/lotashelbys/media/100_0402_zps37b7baaa.jpg.html)

Hi
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/lotashelbys/100_0403_zps9c515dbf.jpg (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/lotashelbys/media/100_0403_zps9c515dbf.jpg.html)

Even sanded and buffed the top of door jams....
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/lotashelbys/100_0404_zps68b94e65.jpg (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/lotashelbys/media/100_0404_zps68b94e65.jpg.html)

Rear bumper cover sanded and buffed
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/lotashelbys/100_0405_zps4affe750.jpg (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/lotashelbys/media/100_0405_zps4affe750.jpg.html)

Nice and shinny all the way down to the pinch weld.
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/lotashelbys/100_0408_zpsb3ffde11.jpg (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/lotashelbys/media/100_0408_zpsb3ffde11.jpg.html)

Reaper1
05-23-2013, 01:55 AM
That car got the awesome paint install kit! :D

When are you gonna do mine!? :eyebrows:

tommyturbo
05-23-2013, 04:15 PM
I'm curious, you detrimmed it so thoroughly but left the rear bumper cover on? why?

Lotashelbys
05-24-2013, 10:06 AM
I'm curious, you detrimmed it so thoroughly but left the rear bumper cover on? why?

That has alot to do with this car being a Northern rust belt car. Everytime I have taken a rear bumper cover off a car like that EVERY single mounting stud has broken off. That would mean to fix it right it would take quite a bit of time to make re-make the stud bar and especially the one riveted to the cover. It looked like another 8 hour project and I already have close to 50 in the bodywork and painting so far and thats just the chassis part that is pictured.

If it was a car from,say the L.A. area it would come off with your fingers and would have been almost too easy lol. The rear bumper cover is the one thing that really make much of a difference painted on or off....

phantomrt
05-25-2013, 11:30 AM
Looking good. If only I had the time to do something like that....

But, just for kicks, here's some other stuff that somewhat relates:

http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s648/phantomrt1/IM000339_zpsaad7f681.jpg (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/phantomrt1/media/IM000339_zpsaad7f681.jpg.html)

This is Turbokid's Lebaron convertible right next to mine. Lets just say that I will question Chrysler's production numbers of 1992 Turbo / 5spd convertibles. I've stumbled upon so many over the years, but perhaps it is just possible that the majority of them ended up in the Twin Cities area somehow. I've seen at least a half dozen, and I wasn't even looking for them.

http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s648/phantomrt1/IM000332sm_zps0b275d7e.jpg (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/phantomrt1/media/IM000332sm_zps0b275d7e.jpg.html)

When I went to pick up TurboKid's car, it was at a newer house that was significantly beat up for a house of its age. In the living room there was only a couch and a coffee table, which was full of pill bottles. No other furniture or working heat or water heater (propane probably ran out.) If it wasn't my "home turf", I probably would've bailed. but it was inner city pill poppers in the country--I could probably hold my own.

http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s648/phantomrt1/lebaronevic_zps42e78282.jpg (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/phantomrt1/media/lebaronevic_zps42e78282.jpg.html)

Here is a feature you won't see often. I always had dreams of doing this, and I was able to do it the easy way. At a "beer for parts" junk yard, I found yet another 1992 Lebaron GTC Convertible with the 2.5 T-1 and 5spd that had the EVIC system in it. I raped the entire car for the wiring harness. For reference, literally the entire interior of the car has to come apart in order to get this to be fully functional. I came to the junk yard with a case of beer, set it on the counter and asked, "Can I go pull some parts?" at which point he promptly directed me directly to the yard. For $40 and the beer, I got the transmission, entire wiring harness, EVIC system, door panels.... so much stuff that I had a tough time loading it up to take it home. They also have a factory radio amplifier in the trunk when you have a car loaded as such.

- - - Updated - - -

http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s648/phantomrt1/IMAG0003_zps09394b26.jpg (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/phantomrt1/media/IMAG0003_zps09394b26.jpg.html)

Here is an item for the future. I have all the stuff necessary to install it, so it is pretty much a matter of pulling the dash again, splicing this into the harness, installing all of the actuators, and re-assemble.

The Phantomrt got the auto climate control unit with black buttons, not these which the old man luxury cars got.

Reaper1
05-28-2013, 09:14 PM
I'm fairly sure you don't have to rip the entire interior apart to get the EVIC fully functional. I've seen the swap done many times over the years in G and J bodies. Some have gone and replaced the entire harness, while others put the proper wires and BCM in and all was gravy. I will admit that pulling the dash to do it does make a lot of sense considering that the wires that need to be put in are in the dash harness.

phantomrt
05-30-2013, 08:06 AM
I know of only a couple others who have swapped in the EVIC system over the years, and in order to get it fully functional is not an easy task by any means and most who got close to doing it accumulated some of the parts but later chickened out or swapped in the body controller and the 6-button unit and maybe the node module and called it good. Who do you know that has done it? I'd like to talk to them. Surely it is possible to not have to tear the car completely apart, but not doing so isn't particularly practical for full functionality. The body computers which are part of the EVIC system have substantially more wires going to them. Things like the left and right door ajar switches are on their own separate circuit. Then there is the lamp outtage module. Then there is the brake fluid level sensor, the coolant level sensor (which BTW, I do not believe that I have ever seen one from the factory in a G/J body reservoir that wasn't a mexican car... but you can buy them at RockAuto.... go figure.) and the node module on the front bumper in which you have to find that does not have corroded connectors on it. Unless the car was already equipped, there is the courtesy lamps and associated switch in the door handle. THEN, the EVIC body computers are 1992 Lebaron specific. It talks on the later class II data bus AND controls the hideaway headlamps. With the exception of perhaps a body control module from an EVIC equipped 1992-1993 New Yorker / Imperial, you are down ---- creek poop chute without a paddle. Then if you have a V-6, they had the oil level sensor. The 1990-1991 parts are a bit more common, but beyond that, GOOD LUCK.

Reaper1
05-31-2013, 12:31 AM
I know for fact it was done over on TD. All of the parts needed to do the swap can come from the donor car. Or, you can piece it together from different models. For instance: light outage module can be found on '90/'91- G/J with the EVIC, Y's and probably S's. Brake level sensor: '84-'86 G-body with the body function computer (might be able to use their lamp outage module too), '90/'91- G/J with the EVIC, Y's possibly, *maybe* T&C's with the digital dash. Coolant level sensor: '84-'86 G-body with the body function computer, maybe H bodies that are fully loaded with the 12 button navigator (?), '90/'91- G/J with the EVIC, Y's possibly, and T&C's with the digital dash. The node module can be found on any car that has the overhead console with the temperature and compass option. Door handles: '84-'86 G bodies that were pretty well equipt will have them; I *think* the Daytona Pacificas got it, and I wanna say that really high optioned J-bodies could get it too...through '90; 90-91 G/J w/EVIC (so it seems, probably if the car was optioned with the "Premium Lighting Group" it got it.); oil level sensor: IF the car still has it '84-'86 G-bodies with the body monitoring system (I think there was a TSB to take them out because they were leaking); again *possibly* '90/'91 G/J w/EVIC *might* have it (all the 3.0 oil pans have the hole for it in the front of the pan), and *maybe* Y's with the overhead trip computer and T&C's with the digital dash.

The best part is that most of the plugs and wires are already in the harness, you just have to find them. Yes, I know non-EVIC cars don't have the EVIC plug, nor all the wires to the BCM. That part can be tricky to do while the dash is in. Another cool thing is that you can source the "Premium" BCM from most parts places as a reman unit. So, if you weren't lucky enough to get one from a donor car, you can still find them.

The later stuff is a bit harder to source, so then it is best to have a complete donor car.

phantomrt
06-04-2013, 03:25 PM
The one person I know that did it on TD went by the name of "turboSOB". He took it another step farther and got the auto climate controls and digital gauge cluster working into a 1991 G-Body.

I have yet to do a bit more research on this, but I have yet to determine the differences between the tail lights in various years. In 1992, only the GTC got the independent turn signals and the LX models got the old school common bulb setup (they are common bulb, right?). In 1993+, all J-bodies got the newer independent bulb style turn signals. Will this mess up with the lamp outage module function? I do not know. All the aftermarket wiring diagrams are incorrect, and I have no factory service wiring diagrams to go by to look at. It is entirely possible that for the lamp outage to work properly, the module has to come from an independent bulb setup car.

If a 1990+ G-body came with the EVIC system, it was like the adjustable suspension damping system. It existed, but yet it didn't.

Did I hear that right? They had oil LEVEL sensors on the 80's 4 cylinder engines? I will have to look into that.

The brake fluid level sensors aren't horribly rare. The New Yorkers / imperials came with them commonly enough, and those cars are also a good source for node modules.

Then there is this data bus format blitz that happened in 1992. Among my piles of spare parts, I have a spare 6-button traveler that doesn't want to function. I do not know if it has gone bad or whatnot, but it could be because it came from a 1990 or 1991 car. For awhile, I was thinking that the difference in data bus was only between the body control module and engine controller. Again, i am fuzzy on this. Reason I say all of this is because I had a 6-button unit from what I thought was a 1991 car that I plugged in and it worked in my 1992. But I may have mistaken that one for the one that I do have and does not work. I have to clean up my memory on the class II data bus stuff with the CCD bus. Assuming all the data bus stuff changed. I need to find someone with a 1991 EVIC car to play with.

The G, J, P, ZJ, XJ, Dakota, and minivan overhead consoles, for example, all have the compass electronics in the console itself and also have a separate temperature sensor and no node module to speak of. The rest, I am not entirely sure of.

The coolant level sensors are nothing special. I think they are the same as the washer fluid level ones with a long extension to get the float towards the bottom of the reservoir and that is what makes them special... but that is nothing that some ingenuity and JB weld can't accommodate. The 1991+ radiators and reservoirs are different than the 80's cars, so the 80's cars are not a direct swap. So, as to why the coolant level sensor I need is even available for purchase is beyond my comprehension. I've never seen one in a car. Even my donor car had the harness to it all wrapped up factory style and tucked away. Currently, I am using an Imperial coolant level sensor, and overfilled the reservoir to make it work... somewhat anyway.

Let me know about where to buy the reman "premium" body control modules. They must be all out of cores because I have yet to find a place that I don't have to ship mine somewhere in order to get it back.

The coolant level and brake level harnesses aren't in the cars. Easily added and wired to the node module, but most of the time I haven't seen them. The J-bodies have the EVIC plug behind the dash--its the same plug and goes to the same place as the non-EVIC cars. The difference in usage is that the EVICs utilize the pink "hot all the time" wire and the 2-button travelers utilize ignition power feed instead.

- - - Updated - - -

Back to the subject of 1992 Turbo / 568 GTC convertibles, here is another:

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Like I said, it is that either Chrysler's production numbers are wrong, or 95% of these cars with this drivetrain configuration ended up in the Twin Cities area. Not that they do not exist, but I have not seen a 1992 Lebaron convertible with a turbo and automatic. I think I've seen a couple coupes in my lifetime with this drivetrain in this year. But with convertibles, 5spd, T-1, I've just come across so many.

This car will need a lot of work. I'm not sure if it is going to end up getting fixed or used as parts. Its just good enough to be able to save.

Khajjathefang
06-04-2013, 09:25 PM
You might think it's ugly, and the headlight's can be difficult/$$ to locate, but the 93+ upper nose with the exposed headlights is significantly lighter than the old flip style. Also not having the motor and rods in in the center behind the grill leaves plenty of room for a big front mount.

or you can mount h body headlight buckets in the old style nose...

Reaper1
06-05-2013, 09:56 PM
I remember that Daytona. It was a red Shelby and the guy was trying to option it with every gizmo that could be had between the J/G body cars. He also did the 2nd to 3rd gen tail light swap (I beat him to it by something like 6 months). He was having issues getting the speedometer to work in the digital dash until he figured out he needed the "Premium" BCM.

Even if the lamp outage module wants to see one or the other type of taillight assembly, that's nothing a little wiring can't take care of.

No 1990 G-body would have ever gotten EVIC...the center stack and center consoles were higher and stopped at the radio. As for G-bodies getting EVIC at all...I've never seen one or heard anybody ever mention it in that body-style. To my knowledge it wasn't an option on G-bodies at all (unlike the VDS, but that was 1990 only).

I know 1984 cars that were equipped with the body monitoring system (the 24 function one) originally had an oil level sensor. They had problems leaking and there was a TSB to remove it and put a plug in the oil pan hole. I don't remember when that happened, so it could have been available through '86. This would only be found in G-bodies. I can't remember any other car at that time that had that system.

The CCD bus will interact with almost all of the electronics that have anything to do with running the engine, monitoring the engine, or taking care of body functions/monitoring. If the bus changed, so did all of the electronics that interact with it.

Also don't forget that the 1990 radiators are unique as well. Those still use the 80's style overflow.

When I looked into it maybe about 2 years ago, Auto Zone listed the BCM's in their system as being available. They did have a core, but it didn't say anything at the time about needed to send the old one in. That might have changed. The company that would be doing the reman would be Dorman. You might also look around for shops that specialize in refurbishing electronic dashes. I can't remember the name of the company, but I stumbled across one about 2 months ago that did all that stuff.

phantomrt
06-07-2013, 07:38 PM
He was having issues getting the speedometer to work in the digital dash until he figured out he needed the "Premium" BCM.
Close, but the body computer was not the issue. Nothing that has to do with the EVIC system will work without the "premium" body control module. The issue was that he was using 1992+ electronics in a 1991 car. He has some contacts with engineers or whatnot who work for the "big 3" automakers and that is where he discovered that there was a change in the data bus communication for the 1992 model year. He took the SBEC out of his IROC R/T and jiry rigged it to the 8 valve engine in his '91 Shelby, raised the front of the car and spun a wheel by hand and suddenly the digital speedometer came to life and would actually get a reading. The suppliers of SBECs changed for the 1992 model year.

I did a little extra memory refreshment, and read some old emails that reminded me of a few things:

It always helps to get the wiring from the same car you got all of the
above. There are a lot of extra wires feeding into the new body computer
that read switches like "trunk ajar" or "washer fluid low", or "driver's
door ajar" and "passenger door ajar". To get those last two to work properly
you will need to wire the diode pack (in the relay box above the driver's
kick panel) in a different fashion than what the non-EVIC cars had.

Good luck doing that without pulling the dash.

Oh, and I almost forgot, you will also need to get the lamp outage module.
This is a small black/gray box above the glove compartment that hooks into
the headlamp and tail lamp wiring and has 3 wires feeding to the body
computer. These wires are triggers for "headlamp out", "tail lamp out", and
"stop lamp out" (I think, or is it "turn signal out"). There are 2 versions
of this box, the one for single rear stop lamp and one box for dual rear
stop lamp (like the GTC). I have a single rear stop lamp box, but the
Daytonas have dual rear lamps, so I couldn't hook mine up. The New Yorkers
have this same box, but again, in '91 or '92 they changed the wiring a bit.
The later ones have two fuses, one for each headlamp and the older ones have
one fuse for both headlamps. The single fuse has one wire going to the lamp
outage box where it splits into two, one to go to each headlamp (one in, two
out). The later ones have each headlamp fuse sending a discrete wire to the
lamp outage box, where the pair pass through side by side (two in, two out).

This just goes to add to the complexity of implementing the EVIC system to be FULLY functional.


The CCD bus will interact with almost all of the electronics that have anything to do with running the engine, monitoring the engine, or taking care of body functions/monitoring. If the bus changed, so did all of the electronics that interact with it.


Now here is where it gets a bit confusing. You can take a 1990 2-button traveler thing and stuff it into a 1995 car and it'll plug right in and work. This would suggest compatibility over all the years with the CCD bus. You can also take a 2-button unit out of a 1988 new yorker, plug it into a 1995 J-body, and it works.

BUT, when it comes to the EVIC stuff, it doesn't happen from 1988 through 1995. It is as though the bus has two (or more?) different types of data packets running on it. Some stuff that utilizes certain information on the data bus will work (such as the LCD display dimming of modules) is compatible all around, but there are data packets with information such as, "HEY, your door is ajar!" that are not recognized by all devices, and with a change to those items' communication in 1992.

Kinda like IPX/SPX data packets and TCP/IP V4 data packets running over an ethernet network simultaneously. If the network nodes quit handling IPV4 packets and started handling IPV6 packets, all the IPV4 hardware won't work. But the IPX/SPX stuff will still function fine... I believe that it is that type of thing.

turismolover22
06-08-2013, 10:43 AM
Ha jackson i was asking you about wipers when you were painting that thing. Nice to see it coming along well.

Reaper1
06-08-2013, 04:46 PM
IIRC the 2-button navigators tapped directly into the raw signal lines for things like speed, fuel level, ect. That's why they will work across all the years. The CCD system wasn't introduced until 1990 (I'm 99% sure of that). I don't think the A604 TCM needed the CCD until the 3.3 was introduced. I know for certain that the TCM uses the CCD on 3.8 vehicles.

J&H Ryan
06-09-2013, 07:49 PM
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phantomrt
06-14-2013, 08:44 PM
This is turning into a really beautiful car. I actually helped Jackson assemble some of it, but unfortunately I had some very miserable allergies in southern Wisconsin at the time, so I was about as useful as tits on a bull. Which is interesting because I felt a lot better once I reached Madison on my way home.

It may not show, but as an example, try tearing into a wire harness to get it customized as so and then re-assemble it so that it fits into the car and looks better than it did when it rolled off the production line. Some of it isn't necessarily hard work, but it takes lots of perseverance.

He has a lot of time, effort, and materials into this thing. He was using every bit of free time that he could scrounge up to get stuff blasted, powder coated, sanded, buffed, etc. He has is own family now, and with that, free time doesn't freely.

J&H Ryan
06-25-2013, 08:27 PM
Yeah, the wiring harness looks top notch! :

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lengel
06-25-2013, 09:07 PM
amazing!!!:clap:

rich tideswell
06-27-2013, 07:32 AM
looks awesome ryan! surprised you didn't try to fab some tubular subframe connectors while everything was blasted and stripped down to metal.

J&H Ryan
06-27-2013, 07:50 AM
looks awesome ryan! surprised you didn't try to fab some tubular subframe connectors while everything was blasted and stripped down to metal.
Those are coming. I think originally we were going to push the car to get to SDAC, but now since that has past and didn't make it, it will get done.

Reaper1
06-28-2013, 08:55 PM
Why would anyone put that much effort and money into a K-car!? LOL ;)




JK! It looks great! I think it's awesome to know there are more and more of our cars that are getting rebuilt to this caliber. :thumb:

iTurbo
06-28-2013, 10:02 PM
Doin' It Right!

Looks incredible!!!

2.216VTurbo
06-29-2013, 02:52 PM
Man I hope to see this car in person one day:clap: SDAC 24 maybe:eyebrows:? So whats the story with Jackson's pet Pigeon:confused2:

kensz
06-29-2013, 05:56 PM
I have got to tell you, this thread and build has restored my faith. I don't get to to many annual SDAC conventions, SDAC-23 was just my fifth. I managed to get to the car show last Sunday in Lewisville IN and I have been kinda bummed since then. No IROC R/T's, no Spirit R/T's, 2 cars in this class, 2 cars in that class it just seemed way down from the previous conventions I have attended. So I'm thinking, the cars are getting older which of course the owners are also getting older. Maybe the interest in these cars is drying up as people move on to other/newer cars. Let face it, it's easy to be a Mustang fan or a Corvette enthusiast hell you can built your own one of them from aftermarket catalogs. You have to love these cars to do the rebuild like you are doing. I would guess that when all is said and done you will have invested more money than the car is worth. It's nice to see someone putting the time, money and effort into restoring one of these cars.

My biggest turbo mopar regret is selling my wifes '89 Lebaron Turbo GTC after my son backed his car into the driver side rear quarter. The insurance company totaled it and we just did not have the funds to repair it. The good news is that we sold the car to a turbo mopar enthusiast in Utah and he did a restoration on it similar to what you are currently doing. So the cars in good hands and once again in great shape. Still the wife mentioned last week that she still misses her Lebaron. In her words "I loved that car". Can't wait to see the finished product.

Reaper1
07-01-2013, 02:50 AM
I think "life" had a lot to do with why the turn-out was a bit lower at SDAC this year. I know I would have gone had I not had crap happening. I don't think the enthusiasm is waning so much as people are finally doing stuff like this to their cars and other life events are preventing them from finishing or attending get-togethers. At least that's what I'm making of it. :)

turismolover22
07-01-2013, 10:45 AM
Wha kind of undercoat you have jackson put on the car ryan?

J&H Ryan
11-22-2013, 10:40 AM
The undercoat is a semi truck paint that a local place uses. Not sure what kind. Also, the car is going to get the earlier "strobe" tail lights with the black redone in gloss to match the wheels (will have 2 piece powercoated BBS wheels with black centers and silver rings) and other trim. Jackson is going to restart work on this in the winter. My latest crazy idea is seeing if the 86 Turbo Z lip spoiler can somehow be adapted to this nose. Only gripe is how high the nose is on the J-bodys vs H's and G's with valances.

J&H Ryan
05-11-2015, 02:15 PM
Update: Jackson figured out why my Cliff Ramsdell transmission doesn't shift. It has a 555 oil spout:
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Snug IC mounting:
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Meth injection with my favorite braided lines:
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The "seemed like a good idea at the time" spoiler that won't play/lay nice:
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The mod that hardly nobody will notice:
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2.216VTurbo
05-11-2015, 02:56 PM
So much win in a single project:clap:

cjbintx
05-12-2015, 12:07 AM
Fine photography and a beautiful subject!:thumb:

Reaper1
05-12-2015, 02:30 PM
R/T or SL rear wing?

J&H Ryan
05-12-2015, 04:46 PM
Thanks!

SL, narrowed.

Wastelands Warrior
05-12-2015, 06:14 PM
WOWSA!!! Beautiful car and awesome build!!!

J&H Ryan
05-13-2015, 09:09 AM
Details - the chrome trim around the top of the doors and quarters is gloss black as are the convertible top catches - which won't even be visible when the boot is on and in "show mode", but the chrome delete had to be complete, even if I am the only ones who knows.

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Lengel's hand made catch cans, mounted to the IC part of the water to air setup:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/TIII/894507_IMG950181.jpg_zpsahhrvs2m.jpeg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/TIII/894507_IMG950181.jpg_zpsahhrvs2m.jpeg.html)

Final two pieces to be painted. After this, the car has to be tuned/broken in and hopefully will be ready for SDAC *crosses fingers*

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/TIII/0511151853a_297214_zpsvjw6p3e2.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/TIII/0511151853a_297214_zpsvjw6p3e2.jpg.html)

J&H Ryan
05-30-2015, 08:12 AM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/TIII/IMG_0426_zpsedqodflt.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/TIII/IMG_0426_zpsedqodflt.jpg.html)
Jackson scored 36k mile OEM carpeting for me. So nice I had to take a picture.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/TIII/IMG_0419_zpss8tfyg2f.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/TIII/IMG_0419_zpss8tfyg2f.jpg.html)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/TIII/IMG_0420_zps7dny4ii7.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/TIII/IMG_0420_zps7dny4ii7.jpg.html)
Level of detail and materials. 3 coats of clear, harness better than new

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/TIII/IMG_0429_zpseydvbrje.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/TIII/IMG_0429_zpseydvbrje.jpg.html)

The nose has to come up a little, hood vents installed, but it still looks like perfection to me. This was after a quick drive so if the picture is fuzzy its because I was too excited to be still.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/TIII/IMG_0434_zps8nrh1k6o.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/TIII/IMG_0434_zps8nrh1k6o.jpg.html)

Rear shot. The muffler will end up going. Car is too quiet and the muffler is ugly. Car looks so much better with the non-euro tails I think. The pumpers are temporary, Jackson is powdercoating a set of BBS wheels right now for it in black (same as SRT4 ACR wheels, but 2 piece).

Going to pick her up in two weeks. I went there this week to help out a little. Also decided that eventually the car will rock out black cloth seats so long as I can find someone to narrow the rear Daytona seats to fit a lebaron.

phantomrt
05-30-2015, 01:51 PM
Um...IIRC, Jackson sold his 92 'vert to Turbokid...

Yea, I'm still slightly angry about that. But at least he found someone to help him save a 2nd identical car that I found for him. That made up for it.

I have one of these cars, too. Its a survivor car, with fully functional EVIC added to it.

edit: Wow... I don't even remember me posting to this thread. I have been too busy working on everyone else's crap to find it necessary to remember such stuff. The car is looking great. I hope it see it some day.

CoolV300C
05-30-2015, 03:48 PM
Beautiful car, nicely done.

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Beautiful car, nicely done.

J&H Ryan
06-01-2015, 10:18 AM
Potato shot of the wheels:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/TIII/0530152334a95328579_zpsp3jlgros.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/TIII/0530152334a95328579_zpsp3jlgros.jpg.html)

J&H Ryan
07-08-2015, 03:01 PM
As with most project cars, this may never be "finished" - I'm sure it will always evolve with whatever idea I have or whatever else might need to be done to keep it going, but with the showings at SDAC25 and in a few days, Carlisle, I'd like to say that this long chapter of engine changes, failures, and successes is about done:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/DSC07998_zpsxmx6wqfy.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/DSC07998_zpsxmx6wqfy.jpg.html)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/DSC07976_zpsxsqqbz2c.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/DSC07976_zpsxsqqbz2c.jpg.html)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/DSC07974_zpslechp5ri.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/DSC07974_zpslechp5ri.jpg.html)

Thank you to anyone and everyone, especially to Jackson Simler, for all their work and answered questions I've had regarding this car over the past 6+ years.

Turbo224
07-08-2015, 04:28 PM
Beautiful car, excellent craftsmanship. I think Jackson needs to build my car next. :)

Reaper1
07-09-2015, 08:11 PM
Absolutely awesome car! It was a real treat to see in person.

2.216VTurbo
07-10-2015, 01:23 PM
You see, when you look at those pics, the car looks good. But when you see your car in person in the sun or even at night in the lot, it is sooo much nicer than the pics can possibly show. Best. Paint. On. Any. Turbo. Mopar. Ever.:amen: Underhood doesn't suck either:hail:

J&H Ryan
05-08-2016, 04:15 PM
Pics from shows after SDAC last year:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/Lebaron/DSC02062_zpsqm6kswun.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/Lebaron/DSC02062_zpsqm6kswun.jpg.html)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/Lebaron/DSC02067_zpsgsvhb3qz.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/Lebaron/DSC02067_zpsgsvhb3qz.jpg.html)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/Lebaron/DSC02066_zpsn3cixjfy.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/Lebaron/DSC02066_zpsn3cixjfy.jpg.html)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/Lebaron/DSC02081_zpstythc2ou.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/Lebaron/DSC02081_zpstythc2ou.jpg.html)

Girlfriend approved:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/Lebaron/DSC02087_zpsecl3mutx.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/Lebaron/DSC02087_zpsecl3mutx.jpg.html)

In front of Chrysler HQ/CTC:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/Lebaron/DSC02135_zpseb18t523.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/Lebaron/DSC02135_zpseb18t523.jpg.html)

J&H Ryan
05-08-2016, 04:24 PM
Fall project was to make full width LED tail lights. One stage for running lights, and a second stage that lights up when I brake (since the CHMSL was shaved):

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/Lebaron/12046768_10103513896694868_2397104688761287218_n_z psnwsrzqzp.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/Lebaron/12046768_10103513896694868_2397104688761287218_n_z psnwsrzqzp.jpg.html)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/Lebaron/12644905_10103685343868358_163402094522790185_n_zp syyvnsqdl.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/Lebaron/12644905_10103685343868358_163402094522790185_n_zp syyvnsqdl.jpg.html)

2.216VTurbo
05-08-2016, 04:34 PM
Nice touch with the lights but what I really want to know is where I can get a paint job like that:eyebrows:?

Reaper1
05-09-2016, 02:31 PM
Ryan, can you take a more :head on" picture of the tail lights lit up in the dark, please? I've been planning on doing something similar, but I'm concerned about light dispersal. Thanks!

Vigo
05-09-2016, 02:34 PM
Looks great!

J&H Ryan
06-26-2017, 04:56 PM
Hi Alan, missed you at SDAC this year. Not sure if Jackson is doing any more paint work, but he did that one. It was painted / blocked somewhat prior but he did it to perfection.

For the tails, I'll get some pics, its prettymuch perfect dispersion-wise.

Thanks Vigo!

Since this is like a history-log of the car, went to SDAC 27 and the car got Best of Show! So surprised but excited. I had to wait a second (to make sure nobody else went to get the award from JT) and stand up just to make sure I didn't daydream and hear my name.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/20170625SDAC274651_zpsaz2wiwub.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/20170625SDAC274651_zpsaz2wiwub.jpg.html)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/20170625SDAC274633_zpsehxmsqrf.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/20170625SDAC274633_zpsehxmsqrf.jpg.html)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/BooGTS/20170625SDAC274634_zpsvfrn6ksv.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/BooGTS/media/20170625SDAC274634_zpsvfrn6ksv.jpg.html)

2.216VTurbo
06-26-2017, 06:05 PM
Congrats on the BOS win! :clap: Maybe it was the new leather seats that put you over the top?;)

Force Fed Mopar
06-26-2017, 07:47 PM
My '89 GTC aspires to be this nice :clap: It has a TIII swap now too, but nowhere near this nice yet lol. Hopefully it'll at least make to SDAC next year :eyebrows:

J&H Ryan
06-29-2017, 11:42 AM
Could have been the seats, good eye!

Also for 25, we were at a red light and a woman next to us goes "excuse me, you're leaking something", it was streaming down the street next to us. It was gas, being pumped out of a popped return line (via a 255 Walbro). After a night of drinking needing a complete breakfast, we were already going to be a little late, but since I had to do a random parking lot fix we were way late to the show and I'm sure I missed out on a majority of people voting.

Rob, I had someone at the show say that my car inspired them to take their resto a little farther, so both his and your comments are neat to hear.

J&H Ryan
05-16-2018, 04:52 PM
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62598&stc=1
Hrm...

cordes
05-16-2018, 11:07 PM
That looks pretty awesome. What steel for the manifold? What turbo is that? Twin scroll? The photo makes it look like the exducer of the turbine housing extends into the exit area of the housing.

wheming
05-17-2018, 02:56 AM
That looks pretty awesome. What steel for the manifold? What turbo is that? Twin scroll? The photo makes it look like the exducer of the turbine housing extends into the exit area of the housing.

If you zoom in, it doesn't. But i think that effect is some reflection.

That setup looks like it'll be alot of fun!

Force Fed Mopar
05-17-2018, 09:06 AM
New header to go with the new turbo?

J&H Ryan
05-18-2018, 08:43 PM
Yup, new turbo, SS for the header, though I'm going to ceramic coat it (to keep the heat in) anyway. Turbo is a Garrett GTX Gen II 2867R, Tial SS turbine housing, .64 A/R. Brian Slowe is the master behind the design and welding you see. This is way beyond my skill level - which is to keep a rusty old Jeep on the road with a MIG welder - though I plan on getting my hands dirty on the downpipe, also SS that will accept the output of the wastegate and thinking maybe a butterfly dump valve for fun.
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62601&stc=1

wheming
05-18-2018, 10:05 PM
Yup, new turbo, SS for the header, though I'm going to ceramic coat it (to keep the heat in) anyway. Turbo is a Garrett GTX Gen II 2867R, Tial SS turbine housing, .64 A/R. Brian Slowe is the master behind the design and welding you see. This is way beyond my skill level - which is to keep a rusty old Jeep on the road with a MIG welder - though I plan on getting my hands dirty on the downpipe, also SS that will accept the output of the wastegate and thinking maybe a butterfly dump valve for fun.
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62601&stc=1

I thought i recognized that workbench! I'm sure you'll be happy with that header! And interested in hearing your feedback on that turbo.
Is that journal bearing or ball bearings?

J&H Ryan
05-19-2018, 06:34 PM
I thought i recognized that workbench! I'm sure you'll be happy with that header! And interested in hearing your feedback on that turbo.
Is that journal bearing or ball bearings?
Ball Bearings. I'm very interested to see what the improvements in technology + the header do for drivability.

cordes
05-19-2018, 07:24 PM
With a TIII, I would think that you'd be spooling that turbo very early.

Force Fed Mopar
05-21-2018, 10:45 AM
All GTX turbos are ball bearing, IIRC.

I think you'll be quite happy with that turbo, for your around town smiles per gallon goal :thumb::nod:

And, I feel like my Lebaron is going to need one of those headers in it's life by next year...