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Johnny
06-06-2010, 08:08 PM
Started this project "finally". Here is what the engine is going into. A 1986 Plymouth Reliant, factory turbo wagon. It sat for 1-1/2 years, I put a battery in it, started right up so I could drive it into the shop to put it on the lift.
http://polybushings.com/images/wagon.JPG

Johnny
06-06-2010, 08:10 PM
Got it into the shop to pull the old engine and tranny out.
http://polybushings.com/images/wagons.JPG

Johnny
06-06-2010, 08:11 PM
From being used as a daily driver for many, many years. And then sitting for over a year, it looks pretty bad.
http://polybushings.com/images/wagone1.JPG

Johnny
06-06-2010, 08:12 PM
Removed the engine and tranny today. Now to clean up everything and change the wire harness.
http://polybushings.com/images/wagone2.JPG

omni_840
06-06-2010, 08:13 PM
Very cool:eyebrows:

663csx-t
06-06-2010, 08:20 PM
looking good

86seeS
06-06-2010, 08:20 PM
subscribed!!!!

Johnny
06-06-2010, 08:30 PM
Oh, and to those new, here is the engine that is going into it.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd79/brownj255/100_1155.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd79/brownj255/100_1164.jpg

rx2mazda
06-06-2010, 08:46 PM
nice!

Turbo224
06-06-2010, 08:50 PM
Thats going to be a bad --- sleeper! Looking forward to more pictures...

Turbo3Iroc
06-06-2010, 08:53 PM
About time you get rolling on this Johnny! You still planning on driving it out to 20?

What turbo is that?

thedon809
06-06-2010, 08:57 PM
That's going to be a monster. Auto or 5 speed?

Johnny
06-06-2010, 10:26 PM
I have an automatic with a manual valve body.

Johnny
06-06-2010, 10:28 PM
What turbo is that?

Borg Warner TO4B V-trim
w/ .55 Stainless Steel turbine housing

BIG PSI
06-06-2010, 10:42 PM
Johnny;

What I want to know is how did you get the motor back to Oregon from where you won it in Ohio ????

Did you ship it home or did you load it in your own pov.

Chuck

Johnny
06-06-2010, 10:48 PM
Speaking of the turbo, I need to find out soon, (see orange arrow) if there is room here for the exhaust flange to fit.
AND (see blue arrow) what attaches here?
http://polybushings.com/images/wagonturboc.jpg

Johnny
06-06-2010, 10:49 PM
What I want to know is how did you get the motor back to Oregon

Shipped by trucking company.

Turbo3Iroc
06-06-2010, 11:05 PM
Speaking of the turbo, I need to find out soon, (see orange arrow) if there is room here for the exhaust flange to fit.
AND (see blue arrow) what attaches here?
http://polybushings.com/images/wagonturboc.jpg

Yeah that isn't much room to weld an exhaust outlet onto.

The blue arrow is the outlet on the external gate. You can plum it back into the exhaust or make a dump tube but they are pretty loud.

Johnny
06-06-2010, 11:47 PM
Yeah that isn't much room to weld an exhaust outlet onto.

Oh, so I manufacture something and weld it on...oh sweet.

Johnny
06-06-2010, 11:48 PM
About time you get rolling on this Johnny! You still planning on driving it out to 20?

That was the plan, but...we shall see.

Turbo3Iroc
06-06-2010, 11:51 PM
Oh, so I manufacture something and weld it on...oh sweet.

Kinda odd it would come with the ext gate tube and no exhaust outlet. Personally I would weld a short bend on it with a V band and then fab the exhaust from there.

GLHNSLHT2
06-07-2010, 12:00 AM
is it me or does that exhaust wheel look like it's been clipped?

Johnny
06-07-2010, 12:07 AM
Yes it does.

Johnny
06-07-2010, 12:09 AM
And it is so big that it might not spool up till... ????

Johnny
06-07-2010, 12:10 AM
a V band

and that is??

turbovanmanČ
06-07-2010, 12:39 AM
Is this the car you brought to PIR man years ago when we met?



and that is??

V-band could be this-

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160441829907&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

or this--

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390145495970&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Captain Chaos
06-07-2010, 10:06 AM
:number1:

86-89 lancer
06-07-2010, 10:35 AM
Would it be easier to ditch the external gate and go back to internal gate? It looks like the turbo was designed for internal.

CSX153
06-07-2010, 10:05 PM
better pics of the header?

glhs0426
06-07-2010, 11:34 PM
And it is so big that it might not spool up till... ????

With that cylinder head, it might just be the perfect match for an automatic that loads the engine so well. The little man that ported the head was kinda proud of how the porting turned out.

I'm pretty sure when you get it tuned you'll be taking out those +40's because they will be too small. When you do, send 'em back to Memphis. I'll be needing a set soon.

Johnny
06-09-2010, 02:22 AM
better pics of the header?

http://www.turbododge.com/forums/attachments/lonewolf-performance/29927d1241386735-my-skirts-up-aka-its-here-100_1164.jpg

Johnny
06-09-2010, 02:49 AM
The last two days I did PolyBushings stuff AND called over 30 wrecking yards and visited at least 5 yards looking for a correct 88 turbo harness. Found nothing.

trbowgn
06-09-2010, 08:16 AM
Did the engine come with SMEC electronics?

Johnny
06-09-2010, 11:55 AM
Did the engine come with SMEC electronics?
No, my car is a 86 turbo car (logic).
What did you use to convert yours?

trbowgn
06-09-2010, 01:08 PM
No, my car is a 86 turbo car (logic).
What did you use to convert yours?

86 GLHS ECU and made the overlay harness. Super easy I spent probably 3 hours making all the connections and doing the soldering and I was taking my sweet --- time watching a Tigers game while I did it.

86Shelby
06-09-2010, 01:18 PM
Johnny, you could just add the wires for the AIS and heated O2 sensor like Shelby did on the S-cars, then make sure the pinouts at the LM are the same as an 87TII Daytona and you would be golden on running the 87 TII LM. You may need to run 3 extra wires for an underhood MAP sensor; which would be the easiest route since I suppose you'll be running a 3bar MAP anyhow.

Running and soldering a dozen connections is easier, less time consuming, and less expensive that locating and swapping an entire harness IMHO. Does the '88 harness use the same bulkhead connector at the firewall as the '86?

Johnny
06-09-2010, 01:30 PM
Does the '88 harness use the same bulkhead connector at the firewall as the '86?

People tell me it does.

Pat
06-09-2010, 01:35 PM
If you're already log T-1, converting to GLHS is easy with an overlay harness. Add a couple of pin swaps and wires for an external map and you can go to '87 T-II/CSX electronics, which then opens up the door for 3 bar cals.

I'd just convert to '87 T-II/CSX, using the existing factory harness as your base. It's a few hours of work at most.

Johnny
06-09-2010, 01:39 PM
Looks like I'll have to go that way!

Shadow
06-09-2010, 08:56 PM
People tell me it does.

That would be news to me, although I've never seen a turbo wagon, maybe they're different? Cool project! I gotta order some more stuff from you......sooon.

GLHNSLHT2
06-09-2010, 11:35 PM
. Does the '88 harness use the same bulkhead connector at the firewall as the '86?


People tell me it does.


That would be news to me, although I've never seen a turbo wagon, maybe they're different? Cool project! I gotta order some more stuff from you......sooon.

Yep, 88 k cars (T&C, 600E, New Yorker, Lebaron) have the same bulkhead as the older stuff. I took an 88 New Yorker Turbo harness and plugged it right into my 87 New Yorker Turbo to convert it to smec. Pinouts on both are the same so it's plug and play.

Johnny I thought Eric over on the PNW-SDAC list said he had one from a 600E??

cordes
06-10-2010, 12:28 AM
Looks like I'll have to go that way!

That really is the easiest way to do it. Making up the LM cals is very easy too.

Johnny
06-10-2010, 01:10 AM
Johnny I thought Eric over on the PNW-SDAC list said he had one from a 600E?

Not any more!

Johnny
06-10-2010, 01:12 AM
Here is my connector....

Johnny
06-10-2010, 01:13 AM
I can get a 88 Daytona harness. can I make that work?

firehawk618
06-10-2010, 01:17 AM
OOOoooohhhhh I just made a mess in my pants "looking at the engine!"

Damn nice!

2.216VTurbo
06-10-2010, 01:18 AM
Sigh, I spent $200, on your motor Johnny:p It's better off in your wagon tho:)

Johnny
06-10-2010, 01:24 AM
Thanks Alan!

Captain Chaos
06-10-2010, 09:41 AM
If you're already log T-1, converting to GLHS is easy with an overlay harness. Add a couple of pin swaps and wires for an external map and you can go to '87 T-II/CSX electronics, which then opens up the door for 3 bar cals.

I'd just convert to '87 T-II/CSX, using the existing factory harness as your base. It's a few hours of work at most.

I agree. If i had a turbo harness in my car to begin with I would have gone that route.

Captain Chaos
06-10-2010, 09:43 AM
I can get a 88 Daytona harness. can I make that work?

The 88 connectors go through the firewall and plug in under the dash. An 87 would be a better chance I believe. Again, if you aren't specifically qwanting a SMEC or SBEC setup, do the overlay.

GLHNSLHT2
06-10-2010, 07:01 PM
I can get a 88 Daytona harness. can I make that work?

No, 88 G and J body were under the dash and the sexes were reveresed from what you have. I know I said that somewhere already.

It's a lot of work for not much gain.


The 88 connectors go through the firewall and plug in under the dash. An 87 would be a better chance I believe. Again, if you aren't specifically qwanting a SMEC or SBEC setup, do the overlay.

87 would plug in but be more work that doing the overlay.

Like I stated above 88 k cars (T&C, 600E, New Yorker, Lebaron) have the same bulkhead as the older stuff so they plug right in and those cars would all have the same light wiring so it's totally plug and play for him.

Johnny
06-10-2010, 07:05 PM
I think finding a turbo 88 "E" car ... sedan, New Yorker or T&C wagon is like
finding a perfect woman. I think I'll just go with the logic and overlay.

GLHNSLHT2
06-10-2010, 10:32 PM
damn! I wish it were that easy. I could of had 3 perfect women by now :)

Captain Chaos
06-11-2010, 01:21 PM
The overlay is your friend. I'm a wiring tard and did the T-II conversion on my Horizon and GLH-T harness. I even moved the MAP sensor outside in the engine bay, lol.

turbovanmanČ
06-11-2010, 06:14 PM
My local pickapart has some 87 and 88 cars with the harness you need. If you want, I'll go out, see if they are ok and grab it, LMK.

Johnny
06-11-2010, 07:23 PM
88 only, with blow thru system New yorker, T&C station wagon, etc. (not log intake)
REALLY? you'd check?

turbovanmanČ
06-11-2010, 07:27 PM
88 only, with blow thru system New yorker, T&C station wagon, etc. (not log intake)
REALLY? you'd check?

For you, yeah. :D

If its good, do you want it? I can't price it out as I don't know what they charge.

Johnny
06-11-2010, 07:34 PM
Yes sure!

GLHNSLHT2
06-11-2010, 09:20 PM
best way to tell is blowthrough with a 50 pin at the bulkhead. So no Daytona, Jbody LeBaron, or shadow. The kbased cars is what you want. So New Yorker, Kbody LeBaron, 600 E.

Johnny
06-13-2010, 07:39 PM
Cleaned up the engine and suspension today. Was a big mess. Pulled the hood.
Ready for a new wire harness.
Photos of before and after...
http://polybushings.com/images/wagone2.JPG
http://polybushings.com/images/wagonclean1.jpg
http://polybushings.com/images/wagonclean2.jpg

cordes
06-13-2010, 07:49 PM
Wow. Nice cleaning job there.

turbovanmanČ
06-13-2010, 11:47 PM
Got your harness, out of an 88 4dr Lebaron, sent you a PM.


Agreed on the cleaning, want to come and do mine, pretty please, :thumb:

Johnny
06-13-2010, 11:49 PM
Got your harness, out of an 88 4dr Lebaron,

My HERO!!!!!!!!!!!

turbovanmanČ
06-13-2010, 11:50 PM
My HERO!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, if it wasn't for you, we wouldn't have the best engine mounts and suspension stuff. I wouldn't have done this for most people, lol.

Johnny
06-13-2010, 11:52 PM
I thank you very much!

Johnny
06-17-2010, 06:54 PM
Received the wire harness from Simon today!
:)
What shall I clean it with? WD40?

86Shelby
06-17-2010, 07:04 PM
WD, brake cleaner and rags work quite well.

Johnny
06-17-2010, 07:08 PM
I know the brake cleaner will but was afraid it would be bad for the wire insulation and make it hard, brittle.

86Shelby
06-17-2010, 07:13 PM
I use the brake cleaner sparingly. Spray on the rag and wipe things down. WD would be best to get the grit and grime off first.

2.216VTurbo
06-17-2010, 07:51 PM
Simple Green cuts grease nicely without peeling your skin off like Purple Power and some of those. But I gotta say if that harness came from Simon, some kind of disinfectant might be a better idea:p

turbovanmanČ
06-17-2010, 08:10 PM
Simple Green cuts grease nicely without peeling your skin off like Purple Power and some of those. But I gotta say if that harness came from Simon, some kind of disinfectant might be a better idea:p

Wow, :(

GLHNSLHT2
06-17-2010, 11:08 PM
thing looks pretty clean already. Here's what I do to clean grease. I hook my pressure washer up to the hot water from the utility sink. Then just blast the grease away. A little or a lot of armor all will make it like new again :)

Johnny
06-18-2010, 01:52 AM
But I gotta say if that harness came from Simon, some kind of disinfectant might be a better idea

That was funny!

Cody
06-18-2010, 01:56 AM
they make electrical parts cleaners too

http://common1.csnimages.com/lf/1/hash/3933/311188/1/Lectra+Motive%AE+Electric+Parts+Cleaners.jpg

trbowgn
06-18-2010, 09:11 AM
Looks real good under the hood, did you paint the powersteering rack while it was on the car?

Captain Chaos
06-18-2010, 09:28 AM
Cleaned up the engine and suspension today. Was a big mess. Pulled the hood.
Ready for a new wire harness.
Photos of before and after...
http://polybushings.com/images/wagone2.JPG
http://polybushings.com/images/wagonclean1.jpg
http://polybushings.com/images/wagonclean2.jpg

I've done that to all my engine swap cars. My buddy makes fun of it, because regardless how bad it looks on the outside, you can eat off the engine compartments. Looks good Johnny!

Johnny
06-18-2010, 10:28 AM
Looks real good under the hood, did you paint the powersteering rack while it was on the car?


Not painted a thing, just cleaned!

Vigo
06-18-2010, 07:22 PM
turbo k-bodies are the shizzle.

Captain Chaos
01-23-2011, 12:19 PM
Been away for a while just wondering how this came out?

Johnny
01-23-2011, 01:37 PM
Nothing, been too many other projests. But I am just about to finish the last one. Then I am back to the wagon.

Captain Chaos
01-23-2011, 03:01 PM
I know the feeling. One more connector to modify on my engine harness then I can get the alt and radiator mounted, plumb the fuel system and pray it starts. Can't wait to see yours come to life.

Reeves
02-01-2011, 12:28 PM
Updates?

Johnny
02-01-2011, 12:32 PM
My daughters Jeep in in the shop and about done. The the wagon back in. So no.

blk86trbo
02-01-2011, 12:39 PM
Hey Johnny, you said you are bringing this to SDAC, right? It would be fun to see if we could gather all the turbowagons up for a group photo...or better yet, a couple dozen K car wagons chasing each other around town :nod:

Johnny
02-01-2011, 12:53 PM
I would love that!

BadAssPerformance
02-01-2011, 02:20 PM
+1 that would be awesome!!!

JohnnyIroc
02-01-2011, 07:04 PM
imagine the looks that will be getting!
cant wait to see this thing done

Johnny
03-16-2011, 01:22 AM
Took the engine out of storage today. Starting the project again next week. Still dont have a cal for it....thanks Paul.:(

---------- Post added at 10:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:17 PM ----------

I always liked the Shelby Lancer wheels I had on the wagon once..not the mesh really but the color black with the polished outer area.
Just bought some 7" wide Revolutions with black centers and polished outers. Will need to put race tires on the Revolutions I have on the car now.

black86glhs
03-16-2011, 03:01 AM
Glad to see your starting it again. Sorry to see Paul is still a double dog douche bag.

omni_840
03-16-2011, 12:45 PM
Glad to see your starting it again. Sorry to see Paul is still a double dog douche bag.

I agree with this statement:nod:

Reeves
03-16-2011, 01:00 PM
Are you buying the cal directly from Paul?

Johnny
03-16-2011, 03:20 PM
Well I was, but that isn't working to well.

Reeves
03-16-2011, 03:24 PM
Well I was, but that isn't working to well.

I was under the impression that Paul worked for a vendor.

Johnny
03-16-2011, 03:26 PM
But he bought some items from me, in trade he was going to do a couple cals. He went direct to me, I went direct with him.

Reeves
03-16-2011, 03:34 PM
but he bought so items from me, in trade he was going to do a couple cals. He went direct to me, i went direct with him.

o i c

GLHNSLHT2
03-16-2011, 11:29 PM
Johnny, maybe a Flashable SMEC from boostbutton would be a better setup so you can change things as needed instantly to dial the motor in.

cordes
03-16-2011, 11:40 PM
You'll be better off in the long run rolling your own anyway.

Juggy
03-17-2011, 12:17 AM
I was under the impression that Paul worked for a vendor.

i think it was about 1 year ago that they ran into issues. there are 2 sides to every story, have heard both
well have read all about ones side, and heard the other direct ;)

sorry johnny id love to help you out, but i havent spoken with paul in some time. i can ask my friend to drop your name next time he talks to paul, but im sure he will just tell me he would rather not get into things that dont particularly deal with himself (and the fact he doesnt visit the forum quiet frequently)

with a bad ars setup like that you might just be best to setup your own cal rather then try to keep getting fixes..

phase827
03-17-2011, 12:26 AM
So are you going to be driving your wagon to sdac? with that beautiful motor that you just had to stop by my work to show me. made me all jelious and trying to hump it i couldnt get past johnny like a fat kid trying to get the cookie jar just couldnt get to it. i cant believe the luck you have with everything even our last meeting in oregon city when you won the steering wheel. i cant wait to see this thing going down the road...

bakes
03-17-2011, 12:37 AM
John what are your specs on motor and fueling ?

Johnny
03-17-2011, 12:59 AM
The raffle engine!

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?37347-The-9k-2.5L-engine-giveaway&highlight=raffle

Johnny
03-17-2011, 01:10 AM
http://www.lonewolfperformance.com/SDACmotor.htm

Dave
03-17-2011, 01:15 AM
Subscribed!

Can't wait to see more pics of this engine than what's just floating on the net.

bakes
03-17-2011, 01:17 AM
2.5l 3bar 52lb injectors think some here can burn you a chip
Just need to know if it LM or Smec?

Johnny
03-17-2011, 01:23 AM
Need a computer from a 1988 turbo E class, or town and country wagon.
That is what the wire harness is from that I am putting in the car.

GLHNSLHT2
03-17-2011, 07:49 PM
You need an 88/89 SMEC ECU. You can't run that thing on a stock computer. It'll run like crap as you'll need way more fuel than what a stock setup is set up for. So you're going to want either someone to burn you a calibration and datalog the a/f ratio with a Wideband setup and scanner to watch for knock to make sure it's right then play the chip swap game or get a Flashable SMEC and learn to write your own cals off a laptop. You'll still want a Wideband and a scanner. This isn't your mostly stock GLHS engine that you can run off an MP computer and some +20% injectors. +40's are probably going to be good for 20psi. After that you'll want 72lb'ers if it flows as well as it's advertised.

You've got parts that are what the big boys use. No more little Mitsu turbo's for AutoX running 200hp. That's a 400+hp engine you have there.

turbovanmanČ
03-17-2011, 08:20 PM
Need a computer from a 1988 turbo E class, or town and country wagon.
That is what the wire harness is from that I am putting in the car.

I can get you a socketed SMEC and get shelgame to burn you a cal, then get an Ostrich so you can alter it if need be.

GLHNSLHT2
03-17-2011, 08:57 PM
I think poor Johnny is confused with all this ECU talk and tuning.

Johnny
03-18-2011, 02:52 AM
Electronics is NOT my thing!!

OnLooker
03-18-2011, 07:54 AM
Get hold of Rob (shelgame) he does a great job and should be able to help you out.

Dave
03-18-2011, 11:11 PM
Eff it, put a carburetor on it. :eek:

turbovanmanČ
03-18-2011, 11:55 PM
Electronics is NOT my thing!!

If you need help, you can call me anytime, :nod:

BTW, so far, so good, loving it, way better than before, even when they were new, :hail:

Johnny
03-23-2011, 03:34 PM
Picked up a new flex plate the other day, ready to bolt the engine and tranny together.
ALSO the new wheels for the wagon came in yesterday....

Johnny
03-23-2011, 03:35 PM
The wheels are 15" x 7 inch wide Revolutions.

Reeves
03-23-2011, 04:11 PM
The wheels are 15" x 7 inch wide Revolutions.

Look good! Need pics with them on!

Reaper1
03-23-2011, 06:18 PM
I was kinda wondering what happened to that engine! LOL Well, now I know! :thumb:

Johnny
03-23-2011, 06:50 PM
I am busy, need to weld up 68 engine mounts the next couple days. Then on to the wagon.Look good!

86seeS
03-23-2011, 10:13 PM
This build better be at 21! I cant wait to see this thing in person!

Johnny
05-17-2011, 12:23 AM
Took out the old under hood wire harness.
Reworked the new 1988 harness using hockey/friction tape. Worked great.
Installed the new harness into the wagon.

Now starting the exhaust fab coming out of the turbo.

2.216VTurbo
05-17-2011, 01:34 AM
Hockey tape looks perfect, keep it dry tho. It loses color so fast when you do underhood stem/pressure cleaning:(

Johnny
05-17-2011, 01:10 PM
Found a U bend of 14 gauge stainless that should work for the turbo exhaust outlet.
I'll pick it up tomorrow. Will cut a section to fit and weld it on.

Johnny
05-28-2011, 03:48 PM
My custom cal for this car (and my van) showed up in today's mail from Paul.

Turbo3Iroc
05-29-2011, 11:03 AM
Wow, he finally came through?

Johnny
05-29-2011, 12:17 PM
Seems so...

Johnny
05-31-2011, 02:15 AM
Did some fab work on the raffle engine today. This is a shot of the way I got it.
Except I installed a power steering pump to make sure I routed things without
being in the way.
Well, things are close. Bracket will not work the way it is.
Decided to cut the tube and extend it making the external waste-gate go lower...out of the way.

Johnny
05-31-2011, 02:19 AM
This shot is of the tube lengthened, getting the waste-gate lower out of the way.

Johnny
05-31-2011, 02:33 AM
Now there is room to add the exhaust outlet. Used 2-1/2 inch, 14ga, 409 stainless.

Johnny
05-31-2011, 02:48 AM
Exhaust flex has been added. Also used a 2-1/2" to 3" adaptor. Will be 3" all the way back.

Johnny
05-31-2011, 02:51 AM
Had to cut away part of the power steering bracket to make it fit without touching.

Johnny
05-31-2011, 02:55 AM
Used a 90 degree stainless piece on the external waste-gate.
But not sure what to do with it. Leave as is? Will it be loud?
Will it need muffled?

Johnny
05-31-2011, 02:57 AM
On the external waste-gate...Not sure what to do with the (blue arrow) threaded hole or what it is for. There is a fitting (red arrow) which I guess is for a vacuum line.

Juggy
05-31-2011, 04:43 AM
the blue hole is for extra vaccuum if the spring is weak and u have a problem building boost with the wastegate opening too early
are you using an MBC or a real boost controller?

as for the screamer pipe your going to want to dump it at least under the car in the same area as if u were running an open DP. thats alot of hot exhaust/fumes to dump directly into the engine bay.

2.216VTurbo
05-31-2011, 09:59 AM
Axles in yet Johnny? me thinks that's gonna be close...

Johnny
05-31-2011, 10:01 AM
So I can leave the blue hole alone for now, or do I plug it?

---------- Post added at 07:01 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:00 AM ----------


Axles in yet Johnny? me thinks that's gonna be close...
Not even in the car yet. But looking under another turbo car, that close to the pan,
I hope it is okay.
Adding the trans next, I shall see.

Turbo3Iroc
05-31-2011, 01:46 PM
Johnny, looking good!

What size AN hose is that on your turbo drain? I'm fabbing up about the same thing.

Johnny
05-31-2011, 03:46 PM
What size AN hose is that on your turbo drain?

I dont know, was on the engine when I got it from Lonewolf Performance.

cordes
05-31-2011, 04:56 PM
Johnny, looking good!

What size AN hose is that on your turbo drain? I'm fabbing up about the same thing.

Stock is 5/8ths if I'm not mistaken.

Turbo3Iroc
05-31-2011, 07:12 PM
I was thinking about using -8 or -10. My old setup was something like -12 so it would slip over the factory tube. I removed it and tapped the block for the next size up pipe thread. I don't recall off hand but I imagine your block is the same.

Juggy
05-31-2011, 07:25 PM
plug the hole. it would be a vaccuum leak at the wastegate

Turbo3Iroc
05-31-2011, 07:28 PM
The Tial WG I have says to leave the top port open and your boost source to the lower. That WG looks to be a similar design.

"Top Fuel" Bender
05-31-2011, 10:39 PM
On the external waste-gate...Not sure what to do with the (blue arrow) threaded hole or what it is for. There is a fitting (red arrow) which I guess is for a vacuum line.

you could leave it open (NOT BLOCKED)
but I'd get a manual boost controller
leave the light spring in the wastegate
direct intake signal (vac./boost) to the blue arrow
intake to m.b.c. then to red arrow (set it and forget it)
very accurate , repeatable, and no need to change springs when you up the boost

Shouldn't really open till your on it above your boost setting or quick lifting
If your boost is high enough it'll hardly open :)
It'll make some noise but not much more then 3" open exhaust
Remember there is hot gases, unburnt fuel, carbon , hopefully no oil coming out of there too (which can make a mess eventually)
So it is a good idea to dump it low

Vigo
06-01-2011, 01:37 AM
Im highly doubtful that the axle is going to go through there without major interference.. Hopefully i'm wrong.

Nice to see this moving along!

Johnny
06-01-2011, 02:59 AM
Yeah, changes........

cordes
06-01-2011, 10:54 AM
Yeah, changes........

Sorry to hear it Johnny. That's the worst.

Johnny
06-05-2011, 12:08 AM
Decided to put the torque converter and tranny on. Then will add the jack-shaft drive axle so I can "really" tell where to put the external wastegate. More fabricating tomorrow. Then ready to install the engine/tranny.

GLHNSLHT2
06-05-2011, 12:34 AM
ya beefed up the tranny right?

Johnny
06-05-2011, 02:15 AM
Just a used one I found it the wrecking yard. (kidding)

It is one from FWD Performance....with manual valve body, too.
Was a friends, he bought it from Cindy, but decided not to go auto and sold it to me.
Along with the stall torque converter.

Johnny
06-05-2011, 07:32 PM
Bought a new starter for the raffle engine. I was surprised it came with a heart shield already attached to it.
Had to trim a little so it would on on. The shield was hitting the header. Trimming and bending a little made it fit. Although it is very close. Not sure this starter will last very long being this close.
Installed the drive "jack-shaft" so I could know where to modify and place the external waste-gate. Added a bend and seems good now. Lots of clearance.
Still looks like I will need to reposition the exhaust but want to wait till the engine is in the car to know where.

GLHNSLHT2
06-05-2011, 09:29 PM
now it'll hit the kframe and PS hoses

cordes
06-05-2011, 09:30 PM
Did you modify that jack shaft to hold any more HP?

Johnny
06-05-2011, 10:09 PM
Did you modify that jack shaft to hold any more HP?

No, can that be done?

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now it'll hit the kframe and PS hoses

I dont think so, but I'll find out when I install it and do more test fitting.

bakes
06-05-2011, 10:15 PM
You can put a ox u-joint in the jack shaft and have just a look at all the welds for cracking or nicks .

Shadowjake
06-05-2011, 11:29 PM
Looking good Johnny. Glad the engine went to someone who can fully appreciate it. Is the weight of the turbo supported by a bracket to the block at all? Is it really bad if it's not? Or just incase?

Thanks for keeping us posted on your progress.

Vigo
06-05-2011, 11:43 PM
I think the dump tube for the wastegate may need to be rotated to avoid hitting the ps lines or k-frame. But otherwise looking great!

Johnny
06-06-2011, 09:56 PM
Here is my tranny and torque converter info:

FWD11203 - Automatic. 5 clutch front and 4 clutch rear, 3.4 kickdown
lever, Drain plug, line pressure adjustment plug, 2.78 OGR (Overall Gear
Ratio), T-Trac w/blue springs, machined side gears and Turbo action MVB
(Manual Valve Body)

Torque Converter:
The stall is about 3400 but will vary slightly depending on the actual
amount of torque your motor produces.
It has furnace braised fins, hardened steel hub, and
torrington bearings.

135sohc
06-06-2011, 11:54 PM
T-Trac w/blue springs, machined side gears


Is that code for an automatic transmission block type LSD ? If so :yuck:

Johnny
06-10-2011, 12:30 PM
Took the tranny back off the engine. Realize the torque converter is not far enough into the trans.
As much as I try, it will not slide on. Going to take it to an expert to see what he thinks. So
the project has stopped until then....next week.

bakes
06-10-2011, 12:36 PM
try putting a screw driver into one of the TQ bolt holes and spin the TQ this will line the insides of the TQ up with the input slines.

Johnny
06-10-2011, 12:38 PM
try putting a screw driver into one of the TQ bolt holes and spin the TQ this will line the insides of the TQ up with the input slines.

What?

Vigo
06-10-2011, 12:39 PM
Torque converters are tricky to get on all the way if you've never done it before. Id say keep trying before you pay anyone. It has to engage 3 different things before it's seated, which is why it's a pain. Pump drive, stator shaft, and input shaft all have to get lined up before the converter will go all the way in. Make sure you're supporting the weight of the converter and trying to keep it level with the stuff its supposed to slide onto. If you're not holding up any of its weight while you try to spin it on, it probably wont go on.


If the trans is empty (of fluid), it might help to stand it up on its side cover with the bellhousing facing up and let gravity help you out there. You might have to stick a block of wood under the diff area to hold it up.

Johnny
06-10-2011, 12:43 PM
I have done it a few times, never had a problem.
This one IS a problem. And yes, I did try the standing the tranny up trick.

Force Fed Mopar
06-10-2011, 01:10 PM
I hope you didn't tighten it up to the block w/o having the converter locked all the way in :( I did that once w/ a 727 on a 318, broke the front pump :O How far in does it sit? IIRC the tc bolt flanges should be at about an inch/inch and a half inside the bellhousing.

Johnny
06-10-2011, 01:19 PM
Needs to go about 1/2 inch more.

ShelGame
06-10-2011, 01:37 PM
I've had the pump drive tangs get off-center somehow before. I had to stick a screwdriver down past the seal (carefully) and move the pump tangs. Otherwise, the converter snout hits the edge of the pump drive gear and it won't seat. Spinning it didn't seem to help at all.

Vigo
06-10-2011, 02:07 PM
Was this converter EVER fully seated on this trans? Unless it's the wrong converter, the only think that can really keep it from going on is either bad technique or maybe the pump bushing got jacked up somehow.

Johnny
06-10-2011, 06:13 PM
Was this converter EVER fully seated on this trans?

Not yet.

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Was this converter EVER fully seated on this trans?

Not yet.

glhs0426
06-10-2011, 06:20 PM
Check the input shaft and see if it has a hole in the center. If it does, it has a lockup input shaft and a non-lockup converter. Never the two shall engage, there is one spline different between the two.

Johnny
06-10-2011, 10:47 PM
No hole, not that goes through the shaft. There is one about 3/8 deep...more like a short cave.

glhs0426
06-10-2011, 11:17 PM
You have a non-lockup input shaft. Check the alignment of the pump gears like others have suggested. Fiddle and spin that converter. You have to hold your tongue just right sometimes.

Johnny
06-10-2011, 11:21 PM
You have to hold your tongue just right sometimes.

:) Boy, that's for sure.

Reaper1
06-20-2011, 10:24 AM
Be careful of that heat shield on that starter! That is the EXACT same one that failed on my car and caused a small electrical melt-down which could have lead to an entire car-b-que! That one little tine that it is bolted on with isn't enough and over time it will fatigue and fail. This is what happened to mine. The shield slid over and shorted the two starter electrical leads.

I'd get some stainless ties on it like what they sell to hold the exhaust wrap on, to prevent this from happening. Just my thoughts and observations.

Johnny
06-20-2011, 12:56 PM
Thanks for the warning, i will look at it and make sure it does not burn.
Thanks!!!!

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Right now i am on my way to have a tranny guy i know look at my torque converter/tranny issue. Ill let you know what is discovered.

Johnny
06-21-2011, 12:43 PM
As I said, I spend a couple hours fighting this issue and again the next couple days.
I have mated torque converters and trannys before with no issue.
This one just would not go together and if it would start to, it would "stick" and not
go on right and would not come back out easy.

Took it to Portland yesterday to have my friends and NW Shelby club members
George or Perry look at it. They both said they would look it over.
George was at my first stop and looked at it first. Never needed to go bother Perry.

60 seconds later George had it together. He had the magic touch.
Great!! But sure made me look like a blundering mechanic.

But I am glad it is together, now I can proceed!

Johnny

RoadWarrior222
06-21-2011, 03:22 PM
Or like I saw recently "It'll go, just have someone who doesn't own it hit it" :D

Johnny
06-21-2011, 04:24 PM
Well, I was about to use a sledge hammer myself :)

Vigo
06-21-2011, 09:47 PM
Well, from what you were saying i was suspicious of a pump bushing problem. Like, it might have been driven in a little crooked. When i rebuilt transmissions all day we never put a pump in the transmission without test-fitting it on the exact converter that was going with that tranny, and it wasn't uncommon to have to bang the first one out and try another one. Some pumps even have a tiny lip in the bushing area that if you drive the bushing up against it it will deform the bushing.

Anyway if someone got it to go together and it isn't stuck this time, it is probably ok.

Johnny
06-27-2011, 12:03 AM
Got things assembled today.
Put the wagon on the lift.
Bought and installed a heat protection wrap for the starter.
Cut off the old 2-1/2 inch exhaust. Bought 3 inch from Cindy years ago, it will go on the wagon finally.
Installed the engine and tranny!!!!

Johnny
06-27-2011, 12:06 AM
Still have fab work to do. This is a photo looking from under the car toward the engine/turbo.
Will need to add more to the exhaust turbo outlet to bring it back to center.
i have plan!

"Top Fuel" Bender
06-27-2011, 07:13 AM
Looking good !!!

cordes
06-27-2011, 10:00 PM
That engine bay is looking good.

Reeves
07-04-2011, 01:09 PM
Looking great!

86seeS
07-05-2011, 12:34 AM
That intake looks awesome in that bay....... Jellous

Shadowjake
08-23-2011, 03:11 PM
Any progress Johnny? Or are you staying too busy with the awning you're installing.

Johnny
08-23-2011, 03:14 PM
Awning is taking longer than I wanted it to. And building engine mounts...work!
BUT THEN back to it. It is still up on the lift. Next thing is to re-clock the turbo outlet
and build the exhaust.

Shadowjake
08-23-2011, 03:25 PM
Awesome! Can't wait to see more progress on that beast. I still have my factory tranny mount. Since the tranny mount from you is the only thing keeping me from dropping in the engine, would it be wise to just install the old one and swap it out later? Or do you expect them to to be shipping soon enough that it wouldn't be worth the extra effort? Either way, don't rush if you are buried right now. I just don't want to duplicate efforts needlessly. Thank.

Keep us posted on the build. That wagon is going to be mean!

Johnny
08-23-2011, 03:31 PM
Tranny mounts will be done in about 2 weeks.
Only takes 10 minutes to change one
So it is up to you.

Shadowjake
08-23-2011, 03:32 PM
Sounds good. I'll get it in and swap it later. Thanks. And sorry for hijacking.

Bardo
09-27-2011, 12:29 AM
so what ever happened to this build

Johnny
09-27-2011, 12:31 AM
see post 185
Trying to get shop stuff finished before the rain starts.
Almost done, then back to the wagon.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?28307-building-of-a-dream/page9&highlight=

Johnny
01-30-2012, 12:59 PM
Worked on the turbo wagon project a little this weekend.
Hold up was just "me" getting to it. The exhaust needs done so working on that right now.
These are photos of the re-do on the turbo outlet and external waste gate piping I did.
Bolts up just fine and clears everything now. What a challenge.
"C" is both A and B bolted together.

RoadWarrior222
01-30-2012, 01:28 PM
w00t, progress!!!

Since you've got the "godmode" motor, we're expecting you to get out and uphold TM wagonly honor against this... :eyebrows:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3uGaAWJvXA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3uGaAWJvXA

No pressure.

Dave
01-30-2012, 05:26 PM
Ooking phenominal Johnny! Car porn yum :)

bakes
01-30-2012, 10:28 PM
w00t, progress!!!

Since you've got the "godmode" motor, we're expecting you to get out and uphold TM wagonly honor against this... :eyebrows:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3uGaAWJvXA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3uGaAWJvXA

No pressure.

Is it me or did he just run a 1/2 mile

Reeves
01-30-2012, 11:14 PM
Is it me or did he just run a 1/2 mile

If he did a half mile in 10.6 then I WANT THAT CAR!!!!!!!


(I think you saw the lights at the 1/8mile)

fishcleaner
01-30-2012, 11:39 PM
You are going to have so much fun driving that wagon, I would love to ride along during some kills, hahaha

Johnny
01-31-2012, 12:38 AM
I picked up some more tubing for the waste gate today. Got most of it all bolted up to the turbo.
Gone tomorrow but will work on it and more photos at the end of the week.

Johnny
02-02-2012, 09:08 PM
Bolted up what I had finished and worked on the waste gate dump. Here are a few photos from the day.
Green is the wastegate dump tube
red is exhaust
blue the wastegate
yellow the turbo

I have a 3 inch exhaust kit I bought 6 years ago plus a 3" straight piece...I'll use these to finish the complete exhaust.
All I need is a muffler.

GLHNSLHT2
02-02-2012, 10:23 PM
looks good. Only thing is it looks like the oil drain on the turbo is not pointing straight down into the drain tube. You want that straight down. That dump tube is going to be loud. Might want to vent it to the side of the car.

Johnny
02-03-2012, 12:32 AM
I can always add a muffler to it if it is too loud.

Johnny
02-03-2012, 07:11 PM
Adding the 3" exhaust to the wagon, or at least trying to.
The part that goes around the gas tank is just a little off!!! (heads right into the spring)
Will need to modify it...cut and add a bend and re-weld....since I don't have a 3 inch mandrel bender.
The part that goes over the axle doesn't seem right, but still need to play with it some more.

Force Fed Mopar
02-03-2012, 09:13 PM
I've yet to see the pre-bent exhaust for a TM that fit without issues. Course you may be adapting one that was made for a different body.

Reaper1
02-03-2012, 10:04 PM
I've gotten 2 full 3" exhausts from FWD. BOTH fit with NO issues and didn't even rub on the spring once I got it all lined up correctly. The one on my Shelby Z I put on in my back yard, at night, with a flux core welder and the car on 2 jack stands on one side so the car was tilted! LOL

GLHNSLHT2
02-03-2012, 10:10 PM
Johnny, try flipping that pipe around. Is it a FWDP kit or a TU kit?

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Reaper i think we need some Over the axle pics of your exhaust. I have a FWD kit waiting to go on my ShelbyZ too and would like to see some pics.

Reaper1
02-03-2012, 10:11 PM
I'll see if I can pop some off tomorrow. I'm getting ready to go to sleep now. I hope I'm not getting a bug :( Blech.

Johnny
02-03-2012, 11:34 PM
Remember it was bought about 7 years ago, might not have had the bugs worked out it it yet.

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Course you may be adapting one that was made for a different body.

Made for a Daytona. But the wagon is the same chassis.

GLHNSLHT2
02-03-2012, 11:38 PM
so is it a TU or FWDP kit????

I still say try turning the around the gas tank pipe around so the the end near the spring in the pic is now in the center tunnel.

Johnny
02-03-2012, 11:42 PM
I still say try turning the around the gas tank pipe around so the the end near the spring in the pic is now in the center tunnel.

The part in the tunnel was straight.

It was FWDP. SO, it others have their kits that work, mine was before they were made better.

Johnny
02-04-2012, 10:33 PM
Well it was not as bad as I thought it was. Trim a little here and there, it worked. Did not even need to add an additional bend.
Exhaust doesn't touch anything. Now need to add hangers that hold it where it is. Going to look at AJ's...how he did his Dad's wagon.
Had to disconnect the rear swaybar and move it back out of the way so I could weld on the exhaust, that is why it is pointing toward the rear.

Johnny
02-04-2012, 10:34 PM
No muffler right now, can add it later.

glhs727
02-04-2012, 11:48 PM
so just to clarify the FWD-P daytona kit worked on your wagon with a little trimming but no welding/fabrication was required?

On a side note, the more I see of your car, the more it makes me want to go out and get a wagon!

Johnny
02-05-2012, 01:02 AM
It fit with cutting and welding, but not much cutting. Just shortened a couple places. The slip joints would not slip together, the female side was not large enough. So I welded it all into one piece. All in all I am happy with it.

My very first car was a wagon. A 1958 two-door Ford Ranch wagon. I was 15 and had to rebuild the engine before I could use it. Great learning experience. And loved driving it. Loved wagons every since.

cordes
02-05-2012, 01:55 AM
You may be surprised at how quiet it is with no muffler on there. I haven't run one on my shadow in years.

GLHNSLHT2
02-05-2012, 04:03 AM
maybe quiet on the inside but a 3" straight pipe with an Automatic trans is loud outside and attracts the attention of the FUZZ everywhere you go even if you're just driving granny style. A magnaflow flows like straight pipe but really cuts the sound. No reason NOT to run one.

Force Fed Mopar
02-05-2012, 11:46 AM
maybe quiet on the inside but a 3" straight pipe with an Automatic trans is loud outside and attracts the attention of the FUZZ everywhere you go even if you're just driving granny style. A magnaflow flows like straight pipe but really cuts the sound. No reason NOT to run one.

+1, I have full 3" on my Lebaron w/ a hi-flow cat and a MBRP resonator. Let my buddy drive it down the street and around on the other street about a 1/4-mile away. I could hear the whole way even when he wasn't on it :) It's a little louder than I like inside the car too. Even with some Fatmat down.

chilort
02-05-2012, 12:34 PM
I have a Dynomax ultraflow in the factory location and it works well. It is still kind of loud. I used to have a Flowmaster there and it would make you want to pull your hair out. I am also running a high flow cat. My plan is to remove the cat (now that I no longer have to pass the sniff test) and install the longest cherry bomb I can find in the long straight section of the tunnel. It will still flow very well should kill off a lot of the drone.

By the way, looking good. :nod:

One of these days I want to get a '70 Coronet wagon and install a big block. I've got a '70 Superbee project (that I've had for a decade) so once I am done with it, maybe some of the seconds will come in handy.

GLHNSLHT2
02-05-2012, 12:41 PM
Once I'm out of my driveway and down a couple houses you can't hear my setup with the magnaflow that TU and FWDP sell on it. It's installed at the very back.

chilort
02-05-2012, 01:34 PM
Once I'm out of my driveway and down a couple houses you can't hear my setup with the magnaflow that TU and FWDP sell on it. It's installed at the very back.

It gets quieter in your car the further you get from you house!? Cool! I need that. :p

GLHNSLHT2
02-05-2012, 01:45 PM
no if you're standing at the house you can't hear it duh.

Vigo
02-05-2012, 03:32 PM
Lol.

I dont have a LOT of experience here but the only 3" exhaust install i did, i had to flatten that flap thing coming off the side of the gas tank.

Kinda funny.. i put a shadow 3" kit on a dynasty and had to add a few inches and a slight bend.. did what i could and drove it to a muffler shop, but he kept telling me my muffler wasnt going to fit. I borrowed a hammer and made the necessary modifications myself right there on his lift, and then he got that muffler up in there PERFECT. I understand him not wanting to take a hammer to my car in front of me, though.

Johnny
02-05-2012, 03:56 PM
No reason NOT to run one.

i agree.

Johnny
02-05-2012, 09:00 PM
Finished the exhaust today (except the muffler) Made hangers and welded them up. All hung great, nothing seems to touch or rattle when I shake it.

chilort
02-05-2012, 09:12 PM
Poly exhaust hangers?

cordes
02-05-2012, 10:21 PM
I guess I'm just lucky that I've never been harassed by the police with my loud cars. Around here I'm much closer to average db output than when I was in MI. The cops don't look at me twice.

That looks really good with the hangers on there I'll be needing some soon.

Johnny
02-05-2012, 10:24 PM
Yes, polyurethane hangers.

chilort
02-05-2012, 10:54 PM
Nice.

wheming
02-05-2012, 11:19 PM
Must be nice being the poly king...
;)



my android sent this for me using Tapatalk...

Johnny
02-05-2012, 11:57 PM
One thing I'll need to do before completely finished with this build is to fix the fuel lines. They were this way when I bought the car, but now seems to be the time to add a larger, new fuel line.

Johnny
02-12-2012, 10:10 PM
Fabricated the prototype strut brace and added it for a test fit to the wagon.
Now to see if it fits other applications with different intakes. And to see if
it fits without touching hoods.

The laser cut ends are stainless steel, along with the uprights.
The center tube is steel, but going to check to see if that size is
available in stainless. Or will just have it plated. We shall see...
The ends are LH and RH threads so it can be twisted in the middle
to adjust it.

Dave
02-12-2012, 11:34 PM
Keep them coming! Looking good.

turbovanmanČ
02-13-2012, 10:01 PM
Externally vented van's and wagon's are oxymorons, :evil:

Great work, :nod:

Johnny
02-19-2012, 11:46 PM
Installed the power steering pump and tried to get a new power steering hose.
Had to order it, will be here Tuesday. Pump is from a 1989 with ZF style pump.

The rest of the day I used a chain saw. It was so nice out today. Cutting up some logs that have been
laying there a few years. Clearing an area I want to plant some apple trees.

Once I have the hose and it's installed, I have two new axles to install, etc, etc.

OnLooker
02-20-2012, 02:51 PM
Are you planning on bringing the wagon to sdac this year? Looks like it is coming along nicely.

Johnny
02-20-2012, 03:03 PM
Trying to !!!!!!

OnLooker
02-20-2012, 11:04 PM
Trying to !!!!!!

Cool, if you make I'll try and bring mine also. Plan right now is to get the 87 GLHS done in time.

Johnny
02-26-2012, 10:25 PM
Worked on the wagon a little today.
While starting to put on the power steering hose, decided to pull the whole k-frame, a-arms, and rack.
I wanted to clean it all up. Checked for weld issues and only found one crack and welded it up.
K-frame looks really good (its from a 1994 Shadow Duster). Have a new Mopar (was still in the box) rack I bought at Carlsile a couple years ago. Going to use that. Painted the k-frame. Going to have the a-arms powder coated with some swaybars I need done. Then add new ball joints. And fresh bushings.
Photo "C" is a look up at the turbo area with the k-frame out of the car.

RoadWarrior222
02-27-2012, 09:46 AM
Don't all decent exhaust parts come with poly hangers now though?

I've got some that are 7 years old or so, still in service, they're a little grimy, but not swollen and cracked like the old black rubber ones used to go in a year or two.


You know, I bet if someone not in the rustpocalypse areas of the country took it on themselves to source, blast and powdercoat K-frames on a regular basis, they'd find quite a few buyers... though that might depend on economical shipping solutions.

Reaper1
02-27-2012, 10:15 PM
Wow! I LOVE that DP set-up!!

Johnny
02-27-2012, 10:17 PM
Took my two a-arms and had the ball joints pressed out today.
Next couple days they head to the powder coating.
Have new ball joints heading this way.
Bought a "bung" to weld into the exhaust for the oxygen sensor.

Johnny
03-05-2012, 10:30 PM
Got the a-arms back from the powder coater today. Looks like chrome!!
Now to press in the ball joints.

iTurbo
03-05-2012, 11:21 PM
Wow! Loving everything your are doing with this car. Very high build quality, which is something I strive for in my own cars more and more. I predict this car will kick ---, take names, an not break anything while doing it.

Johnny
03-06-2012, 12:11 AM
This is the first time doing any car "nice". Usually its just get it done, get it to handle...lets race (autocross).
I want it to look good this time also.

Johnny
03-07-2012, 12:57 AM
Ball joints were pressed in today.

86seeS
03-07-2012, 01:42 AM
Looking great man cant wait to see this thing!

RoadWarrior222
03-07-2012, 07:16 AM
Sounds like it's gonna be a peach, even a couple of peaches... a pair of stones and kinda hairy.

GLHNSLHT2
03-07-2012, 08:59 PM
NAPA HD ball joints I hope.

iTurbo
03-07-2012, 09:02 PM
^ looks like it to me. I used to be a fan of Spicer ball joints and tie rods but then I found out the NAPA HD ones are the same just different packaging and lower price.

Reeves
03-07-2012, 09:44 PM
Is there a snap ring retaining groove in those?

RoadWarrior222
03-07-2012, 10:45 PM
You ever find BJs without apart from factory tacked on?

Johnny
03-07-2012, 11:06 PM
NAPA HD ball joints I hope.

Yes they are. And not cheap.


Is there a snap ring retaining groove in those?

Yes there is.

Johnny
05-04-2012, 09:56 PM
Any updates?

Got the old return fuel line out and routed an new 3/8 feedline in. Using the old feed line as the return line now.Worked on my truck the last couple days...new injectors too.


Most of the last 2 months has just been work. Nice for the money, terrible for getting the car done.
BUT now that the fuel line is in, I can put the front k-fame and suspension back on.

I did order tires for it....Falken Ziex ZE-912.

Johnny