84' Rampage SMEC and 2.5L Turbo

[GLHSStatus]

Those who dont know me, ill let you know i am Nissan at heart, but have been through my fair share of vehicles, 2 240's, a Rodeo, a Taurus, had a CRX at one time, a Sidekick, and as much as i back my nissans up, i decided i would change my pace and go with a mopar. I'm still learning quite a bit about all of this Turbo Dodge stuff, but so far what ive learned has impressed me quite a bit, if any of you know me well enough you know that i love torque, and these little dodges have plenty of it. well thought i would share what it is, but adding this for legal reasons, the vehicle is actually Jovan's but i will probably be the one driving it and working on it if it ever breaks. although so far thanks to Gabe(CSX153), for helping get this thing as far as it is already.

Vehicle is as follows, 84' dodge rampage, originally carb'd 2.2 now has a 2.5 common block Turbo motor from an 89' van, 555 trans, manual rack swap. SMEC electronics coversion, with 87' GLHS interior (dash, underdash wiring, seats, door panels), 87' GLHS front end, doors, and skirts. 5 lug conversion, i believe from a 87' glhs, with neon srt-4 wheels.

does still need work, but if all goes as planned it should be running, the end of this week.

here is what it looked like when it ran in cali before the paint and 5 lug conversion.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Spitfirejensen/Rampage10.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Spitfirejensen/Rampage9.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Spitfirejensen/Rampage11.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Spitfirejensen/Rampage8.jpg

here is pictures when we first started tearing into it, the only thing you cant see is the rats nest of wiring under hood that we ripped out before i snapped pics.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Spitfirejensen/Rampage5.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Spitfirejensen/Rampage4.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Spitfirejensen/Rampage3.jpg

after a little bit of work, also note that when we got it, the bed was full of TD parts that needed to be removed.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Spitfirejensen/Rampage6.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Spitfirejensen/Rampage2.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Spitfirejensen/Rampage1.jpg

here are the most recent videos I have, It finally runs!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3x6cy4-90c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY18lqWnUds

[turbovanman²]

Very cool, :thumb:

What is the big plan? DD? street/strip? Engine stock or ?

[GLHSStatus]

well, since its the GF's car she wants to see it mostly a track car, and since thats not my style i would like to have it be a nice DD/weekend warrior with all the trinkets for that year as kind of like an awe factor. that also when it pulls up to the light against other cars or neon SRT owners(here in utah 90% of them are flamin deuchers) i want to show them that it packs a mean punch and to teach the neon owners where their FWD turbo 4 originated from.

[GLHSStatus]

as far as we are if anyone could direct me to a link or thread where it shows what needs to be modified for the van engine harness to work with this would be greatly appreciated. also, where the wire will need to be spliced under dash for the fuel pump.

[TheCanadian007]

Carb engines had no electrical fuel pump, you'll have to install an intake turbo one or an inline pump and run your own wire to it.

Useful links:

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41197&page=2

http://www.turbosedan.com/omni/wiringdiagrams/

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48270

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47366

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47178

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47425

[spacejunkie]

Hey! I'm in WVC and would love to get together and compare notes. I've been rebuilding a 84 Rampage. It's up on ramps right now getting the tranny hooked back up. Interior just needs the seats put back in. I bought a 89 Lebaron with the 2.5 turbo that I would like to eventually put in the rampage body looks like crap, but engine runs good.
Thanks
Bill in SLC

[Turbo224]

Welcome to both of you guys. Make sure you introduce yourselves in the Utah thread so we know who you are. We typically try to meet up once a month so keep an eye on this thread for details.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48437

[GLHSStatus]

Carb engines had no electrical fuel pump, you'll have to install an intake turbo one or an inline pump and run your own wire to it.

Useful links:

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41197&page=2

http://www.turbosedan.com/omni/wiringdiagrams/

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48270

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47366

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47178

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47425

thanks much, i know they never came with an electric one, but this rampage ran before someone got ahold of it, and decided to play i can make things better by destroying stuff. so now i have to find out which pump was used or if the just swapped in an entire gas tank from a turbo L-body.


Hey! I'm in WVC and would love to get together and compare notes. I've been rebuilding a 84 Rampage. It's up on ramps right now getting the tranny hooked back up. Interior just needs the seats put back in. I bought a 89 Lebaron with the 2.5 turbo that I would like to eventually put in the rampage body looks like crap, but engine runs good.
Thanks
Bill in SLC

so your putting all the 2.5L stuff in the rampage, or just doing a stock rebuild?


Welcome to both of you guys. Make sure you introduce yourselves in the Utah thread so we know who you are. We typically try to meet up once a month so keep an eye on this thread for details.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48437

for sure, some people on here from the utah area know me but not because of my newly aquired mopar. i will definitely have to, and ill make it to as many meets as possible, hopefully in this too.

[GLHSStatus]

well we made progress today, started splicing in pins from the 89 van bulk connector into the 87 bulk connector. removed some useless stuff, if i can get a scanner i will post up what wires need to go where for this to work, I am not 100% sure if this will work but I am very confident it will. although, i have some questions for the 87 bulk connector, there is 1 pin that I cant find out where it goes since they show they are available on the 89 but no the 87. on the 87 bulk connector pin location 9 says fuel pacer lamp, but on the van bulkhead pinout i cannot find this, what exactly is it? also there is 4 different places i can put the wiper motor pins, do they have to go in a specific pin location, maybe color will match? same with the ignition circuit pins? the last pin i cant find on the van pinout is the 6 location which is splice-charging circuit, alternator.

found one more pin on the 89 that does not show on the 87, on the van pinout chart it shows a headlamp switch, but on the 87 it does not exist, anyone know where this pin would go?

[CSX153]

here is the diagram we are using for the 89 van harness, hopefully its the correct one.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/CSX153/Screenshot2010-04-13at71803PM.png
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/CSX153/Screenshot2010-04-13at71826PM.png

[GLHSStatus]

made some more progress, over the weekend we got the new doors installed, and working correctly(old doors had door poppers installed). Installed the new seat rail since the old one had been hacked up to install some different seats. yesterday we had to repin some bulkhead connectors so they would match up since we are using a 89 turbo van engine harness and 87 GLHS dash harness, have more pics coming but heres just 1 showing the mess we had goin on.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Spitfirejensen/Rampage7.jpg

The little man also likes to know that he's helpin out!
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Spitfirejensen/Rykken3483434.jpg

[Aries_Turbo]

on the 87 bulk connector pin location 9 says fuel pacer lamp, but on the van bulkhead pinout i cannot find this, what exactly is it?

i think its for the upshift light that alot of 80's cars had. you dont need it.

Brian

[GLHSStatus]

oh ok, thanks.

[1BADVAN]

COOL! good luck guys i hope to see this out at one of the meets i have seen it a few times when i stopped by to talk to David i like the SRT4 wheels!

[GLHSStatus]

yea, they definitely set it off.

[GLHSStatus]

alright bumping this up, now i have a question as well. i scrapped the SMEC idea for now, because i couldnt get the darn thing to crank or fire or anything, so i swapped to an 86 shelby charger engine harness, and boom, finally it cranks, now i have to get an injector harness for the SC wiring harness and wire in the ignition coil, since its the one that bolts to the thermostat housing, but i now have a question.

is there a positive and a negative side to this type of ignition coil, and do i just use the positive and negative wires from the SC style coil, extend them and use the plug for the newer coil and its as easy as that?

[turbovanman²]

The SMEC shouldn't have been that hard, its almost plug and play.

As for the new coil, yes, it has a + and -, find the plug and then splice it into the harness.

[RoadWarrior222]

but heres just 1 showing the mess we had goin on.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Spitfirejensen/Rampage7.jpg



It would have been easier of course if you had the Mopar special tool for '85-'94 FWD wiring harnesses ....

http://schweppeinc.com/_media/products/large/75430.jpg

[Dodge Aries K]

Do you still happen to have the stock wheels? I might be interested in them...

[Force Fed Mopar]

Cool project!

[GLHSStatus]

The SMEC shouldn't have been that hard, its almost plug and play.

As for the new coil, yes, it has a + and -, find the plug and then splice it into the harness.

sort of, but not really, the bulkhead harness that plugs into the firewall section, had to be de pinned and re pinned into the bulkhead connector for the charger so it would plug into the in dash harness of the charger, so while doing that we decided to remove some wires that were van specific, for example rear hatch wires and stuff, and couldnt get it to work right. I would like to go back and try it again, a little later down the road so i can run more boost and have the engine bay look much cleaner.

but good news is Ive got it running using the full charger stuff, finally. still need some parts to complete it, so i think for a season ill run this, work all the bugs out, then upgrade. I will be updating the first post to show the videos i have of it running for those who are interested.


Do you still happen to have the stock wheels? I might be interested in them...

i dont, by the time we came into possession of this vehicle the SRT wheels were already on it.