what to make shift fork pads out of?

[Boogieman142]

as the title says. I am getting some made at a shop and need to know what to make them out of. These will be going in a 94 543, 91 568 hybrid. I was thinking delrin.

[MiniMopar]

+1 on the Delrin.

[Boogieman142]

so if i can get a bunch of these mase is anyone interested in them.

[Wink]

Yup!!! A full set. How about hooking up with an estimated price?

[BadAssPerformance]

I was going to make some, but if you already are, prices for Delrin, Nylon, and Brass please...

[supercrackerbox]

Are the pads the same between the 555/520 and the 523/568? If so, I'd be interested in a couple sets.

[MiniMopar]

No, they are different. The early pads are a simple U-shape with a notch in the center of the U to keep it on the fork. The later ones are like two pads connected at one end with a little bar that sits in a notch on the fork. I've haven't compared the shape of the fork ends, but I'm guessing that are not the same. The later ones look less likely to split like the early ones do.

[mock_glh]

The shape of these pads is such that they would not be easily machined, regardless of material. One method I learned from a book is to apply brass to the forks with a torch and then grind or mill it down to the proper thickness so it fits the slider. I've done this with my 568 and it works great! Just be careful not to get the fork too hot while brazing it.:thumb:

[Boogieman142]

we decided on a material but i won't have prices until he gets the material. I'm not sure what plastic it was, i've gotten it written down somewhere. I was thinking of getting 11 sets made.

[Boogieman142]

:thumb: ok, i just got back from the shop, they had 1 pad done today for me to look at. They were made out of a plastic and we did the torture test on it :banghead: and it failed horribly so now we decided to make them out of bearing bronze. he toldme that it won't be more than 200 for them all. He just gave me that price to "play it safe" as he told me.

[BadAssPerformance]

Some plastics are brittle.

Wow, $200 for 11 sets? so 6 pads per set... $3 each pad? I can have my neighbor (with a CNC in his garage) quote it if you'd like?

[Boogieman142]

thats for 1 set

[Boogieman142]

actually the shape of them makes them really easy to make.

[BadAssPerformance]

thats for 1 set

I'm confused... how much for 1 set of all 6 pads?

[mpgmike]

Back in the late '80s I was working in a Honda dealership and their shift forks were dipped in an epoxy. The epoxy was extremely durable, and it took a lot to wear through it. However, once the epoxy was gone, the fork wore away in no time flat.

Mike

[Boogieman142]

oh, u mean kinda like our diff pins, once the plating wears off they godoen in no time. But the 200 is for 1 set of 6 pads. Those are the ones made from the bearing bronze, thats the best that we could think of.

[BadAssPerformance]

:eek: $200 for 1 set of 6 pads... wow. let me talk to my neighbor with the CNC...

[BadAssPerformance]

Thread reincarnation... does anyone have ALL of the A555 and A568 shift fork pad part numbers? I would like to get some so I can get them to my neighbor and his machine shop :)

[tryingbe]

I have all the part numbers.

87 A525/A520/A555
4295 519 2 INSERT, Gearshift Fork, 5TH Speed, Except 4377678,4412981,
982 Trans.
2514 621 2 Use w/4377678,4412981,982 Trans.
4295 519 2 INSERT, Gearshift Fork, 3RD & 4TH Speed, Except 4377678,
4412981,982 Trans.
2514 621 2 Use w/4377678,4412981,982 Trans.
4295 519 2 INSERT, Gearshift Fork, 1ST & 2ND

88 - 89 A525/A520/A555
4295 519 2 INSERT, Gearshift Fork, 5TH Speed
4295 519 2 INSERT, Gearshift Fork, 3RD & 4TH Speed
4269 038 2 INSERT, Gearshift Fork, 1ST & 2ND

90 - 91 A523,A543,A568 5 SPEED
4471 343 2 PAD, 1st & 2nd Shift Fork
4543 715 2 PAD, 3rd & 4th Shift Fork
4471 343 2 PAD, 5th Shift Fork

But the problem is, you can't buy some of the pads new anymore.

Maybe PM Cliff R to see if he can get you a entire set.

[BadAssPerformance]

Can you please post or PM the part numbers? I'll try Cliff for sure if I cannot get them.

Thanks, :thumb:

EDIT: Sweet you beat me to it! :thumb:

[lametec]

He just did!

First 4 digits + next 3 digits = part no.

So "4295 519 2 INSERT, Gearshift Fork, 5TH Speed" is part no 4295519.

[MiniMopar]

519 was the one I couldn't get for the A555/520 IIRC.

[BadAssPerformance]

I just commisioned my neighbor to make a set of A568 pads out of brass.

[BadAssPerformance]

I have all the part numbers.

87 A525/A520/A555
4295 519 2 INSERT, Gearshift Fork, 5TH Speed, Except 4377678,4412981,
982 Trans.
2514 621 2 Use w/4377678,4412981,982 Trans.
4295 519 2 INSERT, Gearshift Fork, 3RD & 4TH Speed, Except 4377678,
4412981,982 Trans.
2514 621 2 Use w/4377678,4412981,982 Trans.
4295 519 2 INSERT, Gearshift Fork, 1ST & 2ND

88 - 89 A525/A520/A555
4295 519 2 INSERT, Gearshift Fork, 5TH Speed
4295 519 2 INSERT, Gearshift Fork, 3RD & 4TH Speed
4269 038 2 INSERT, Gearshift Fork, 1ST & 2ND

90 - 91 A523,A543,A568 5 SPEED
4471 343 2 PAD, 1st & 2nd Shift Fork
4543 715 2 PAD, 3rd & 4th Shift Fork
4471 343 2 PAD, 5th Shift Fork

But the problem is, you can't buy some of the pads new anymore.

Maybe PM Cliff R to see if he can get you a entire set.

If anyone has any or all of the above, PM me please. I would like to find good examples of each to see what it would take to make brass replacements.

[Aries_Turbo]

how much JT. I have two 523's

Brian

[BadAssPerformance]

No idea yet...

[moparzrule]

519 was the one I couldn't get for the A555/520 IIRC.

Thats retarded. Why would they stop making the one that goes out the most?

[BadAssPerformance]

They stopped making them all at the same time. Those that go out the most get used up first.

[tryingbe]

I might have a used 519 around...

[moparzrule]

They stopped making them all at the same time. Those that go out the most get used up first.

Ahh, that makes sense!!! LOL

[MiniMopar]

4471 343 is gone now.

[Tony Hanna]

Any specs on the thickness of the pads? I really like mock glh's idea of building up the fork with brass.