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CltorianIII
02-20-2010, 08:09 PM
man is it even possible? i'd like someone to just tell me cut-throat if it is or not. no "maybes" lol if so where? links to any websites? :confused2:

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l274/MyNiggLos89/CIMG0356.jpg

bfarroo
02-20-2010, 08:46 PM
IF your looking for brighter the Sylvania Silverstar bulbs arn't to bad along with bypassing the factory wiring with a relay directly from the battery to eliminate voltage drop. If you want to spend the dough on a HID system contact Simon as he's a vendor on here and could help you out.

turbovanmanČ
02-20-2010, 09:26 PM
Yes, you need to buy new housings with H4 bulbs and run HID's, I have the same setup on my full size Chevy van, E code housings, HID's, rocks and I don't blind anyone. I no longer sell them but this guy has the housings and bulbs-

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42096

bfarroo
02-20-2010, 10:50 PM
There you go. Not to bad of a price from when I looked at them a few years ago.

turbovanmanČ
02-20-2010, 11:06 PM
There you go. Not to bad of a price from when I looked at them a few years ago.

Yeah, the prices have plummeted, just like everything over the years, :D

1966 dart wagon
02-21-2010, 02:16 PM
hell just upgrading to a halogen bulb over the sealed beam headlights AND running relays it was a world of difference on my daytona, Im running GE Nighthawks, they are about half the price of silverstars and seem to work fine

turbodaytona87
02-21-2010, 02:20 PM
Please don't be a ricer and throw HIDs in your stock housings and blind the ---- out of everyone on the road.

"I'll just adjust them down", you might say. What is the purpose of putting in brighter lights if you're just going to aim them farther into the ground?

The best/correct way to do a HID setup is to use projectors, or to use a reflector/housing that was designed with HID in mind.

JDAWG
02-21-2010, 03:17 PM
just using composite housing with a regular light bulb and adding relays made a HUGE difference on my 88, and I used the cheapo housings. I measured about a volt and a half drop at the headlight plugs, my 55w bulbs were more like 35w.

JDAWG
02-21-2010, 03:23 PM
here is a link I just came across, http://www.madelectrical.com/electricaltech/brighter-headlights.shtml
you dont need their kit though, just pick up some relays with sockets, I usaully buy like 10 packs as they are quite useful for all sorts of stuff http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=bosch+relay&_sacat=See-All-Categories
but if you want to go all out HID go right ahead, it may be my next step on my intrepid

3Bar_Mopar
02-21-2010, 04:22 PM
Please don't be a ricer and throw HIDs in your stock housings and blind the ---- out of everyone on the road.

"I'll just adjust them down", you might say. What is the purpose of putting in brighter lights if you're just going to aim them farther into the ground?

The best/correct way to do a HID setup is to use projectors, or to use a reflector/housing that was designed with HID in mind.

Truth...or If you must use HID's in regular housings, get some aluminum flashing and fabricate a glare shield to avoid shining light into oncoming driver's eyes.

Also...a LOT of guys I know have been having great luck with these kits and they are CHEAP!
http://www.ddmtuning.com/index.php?p=catalog&parent=85&pg=1
You're looking at $60 for a 55 watt 6000K slim ballast kit.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x128/Trickedxd/side.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x128/Trickedxd/bottom.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x128/Trickedxd/top.jpg

trbowgn
02-21-2010, 10:24 PM
here is a link I just came across, http://www.madelectrical.com/electricaltech/brighter-headlights.shtml
you dont need their kit though, just pick up some relays with sockets, I usaully buy like 10 packs as they are quite useful for all sorts of stuff http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=bosch+relay&_sacat=See-All-Categories
but if you want to go all out HID go right ahead, it may be my next step on my intrepid

Good info thanks for posting the link. I am going to be doing the relay trick to mine ASAP.

JDAWG
02-21-2010, 11:43 PM
Good info thanks for posting the link. I am going to be doing the relay trick to mine ASAP.

really you should notice a difference even on stock sealed beams, they should seem 'whiter', not all brownish

turbovanmanČ
02-22-2010, 12:57 AM
Please don't be a ricer and throw HIDs in your stock housings and blind the ---- out of everyone on the road.

"I'll just adjust them down", you might say. What is the purpose of putting in brighter lights if you're just going to aim them farther into the ground?

The best/correct way to do a HID setup is to use projectors, or to use a reflector/housing that was designed with HID in mind.

Bullshitt, Ecodes and HID's, I blind NO ONE and I can see further down the road.


Truth...or If you must use HID's in regular housings, get some aluminum flashing and fabricate a glare shield to avoid shining light into oncoming driver's eyes.

Also...a LOT of guys I know have been having great luck with these kits and they are CHEAP!
http://www.ddmtuning.com/index.php?p=catalog&parent=85&pg=1
You're looking at $60 for a 55 watt 6000K slim ballast kit.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x128/Trickedxd/side.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x128/Trickedxd/bottom.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x128/Trickedxd/top.jpg

H4 bulbs already have that, no need to fab anything.

turbodaytona87
02-22-2010, 10:25 AM
DDM Tuning is one of the most known HID sources. A friend of mine ordered two kits from there and I'll be ordering one for my Jeep once my projectors show up.

89FerrariShelby
02-22-2010, 10:42 AM
Man, i wish i knew ANYTHING about electrical, i'd love to update the daytona's headlights, but all this talk of relays is making my head spin...

=(

rbryant
02-22-2010, 02:25 PM
Sorry Simon but I completely disagree.

HIDs are obnoxious even in factory cars like Mercedes.

Almost every time a car's headlights bother me they are HIDs. The glare from them is much worse than a conventional headlight. They are annoying and blind people even from the factory on expensive cars. Non factory installs are even worse and most of the installs are also not street legal.

The best uprade is a nice Hella refector, a good bulb and upgraded relays and wiring.

-Rich

minigts
02-22-2010, 03:06 PM
Man, i wish i knew ANYTHING about electrical, i'd love to update the daytona's headlights, but all this talk of relays is making my head spin...

=(


hehe Man just jump in and do it. I was a nervous wreck when I rewired my Charger for the TII harness. Now I'm doing all kinds of things. JDAWG posted a a diagram of how it works before and I THINK the info is on www.boostedmopar.com. We believe in you! :D

turbovanmanČ
02-22-2010, 04:11 PM
Sorry Simon but I completely disagree.

HIDs are obnoxious even in factory cars like Mercedes.



Wear sunglass's then, ;)

rbryant
02-22-2010, 04:41 PM
Wear sunglass's then, ;)

Yea that will work...

Just like big SUVs HIDs are a selfish way of keeping the person in the car safe and putting everyone else in danger.

-Rich

minigts
02-22-2010, 04:44 PM
Yea that will work...

Just like big SUVs HIDs are a selfish way of keeping the person in the car safe and putting everyone else in danger.

-Rich

LOL Rich that comment just made me laugh and brightened my afternoon. :)

rbryant
02-22-2010, 04:45 PM
LOL Rich that comment just made me laugh and brightened my afternoon. :)

Hehe.

Welll since Simon isn't selling them now I can bash on the kits with my own personal thoughts about them.

Seriously though most of the time HID headlights just blind people especially people that wear glasses or are sensitive to glare.

I know lots of people that brag about how they get flashed because people think they have their high beams on when they don't and are proud of it. Perhaps they should think about why people flash them and be a little considerate....

-Rich

turbovanmanČ
02-22-2010, 05:15 PM
Hehe.

Welll since Simon isn't selling them now I can bash on the kits with my own personal thoughts about them.

Seriously though most of the time HID headlights just blind people especially people that wear glasses or are sensitive to glare.

I know lots of people that brag about how they get flashed because people think they have their high beams on when they don't and are proud of it. Perhaps they should think about why people flash them and be a little considerate....

-Rich

Some are bright, yes, but some are fine, maybe you do have sensitive eyes-baby, :lol: but I still prefer them over some of the crap the OE's put out, even with better bulbs.

turbovanmanČ
02-22-2010, 05:16 PM
Yea that will work...

Just like big SUVs HIDs are a selfish way of keeping the person in the car safe and putting everyone else in danger.

-Rich

Its a dog eat dog world and the Non SUV drivers are wearing milkbone underwear, ;)

J&H Ryan
02-22-2010, 05:52 PM
The "more power captain!" idea with high watt bulbs and relays is like going at a finishing nail with a sledgehammer. With a e-code beam pattern (not like you see on those "fancy luxury cars and suvs") the light is directly in front, and has a cutoff. I have HID on my lifted (would put them at a level more likely to be annoying) Cherokee, and I have not been flashed since I installed them over a year ago.

Done properly, HID is not annoying, and is much more effective than even 100w of halogen power, while only using 35w.

minigts
02-22-2010, 05:56 PM
So which ones would you recommend for my car? I would want the high and low kit but not sure about which enclosure.

rbryant
02-22-2010, 06:03 PM
Its a dog eat dog world and the Non SUV drivers are wearing milkbone underwear, ;)

That reminds me I still have to write to my legislator to see if we can ban people from leaving their damn ball hitches in their receivers when they aren't towing anything!

Lazy bastards that put me in danger piss me off. Especially if for some reason I run into them and it ruins my car for no reason.

-Rich

J&H Ryan
02-22-2010, 06:05 PM
So which ones would you recommend for my car? I would want the high and low kit but not sure about which enclosure.
For a 200mm housing, your only option is an e-code reflector housing. It would be the exact same one I run on my Jeep. They don't offer projectors in e-code unfortunately.

J&H Ryan
02-22-2010, 06:06 PM
That reminds me I still have to write to my legislator to see if we can ban people from leaving their damn ball hitches in their receivers when they aren't towing anything!

Lazy bastards that put me in danger piss me off. Especially if for some reason I run into them and it ruins my car for no reason.

-Rich
i hear ya there. I'm fixing a friends bumper since they didn't see it while turning in a parking lot.

contraption22
02-22-2010, 06:13 PM
Please don't be a ricer and throw HIDs in your stock housings and blind the ---- out of everyone on the road.

"I'll just adjust them down", you might say. What is the purpose of putting in brighter lights if you're just going to aim them farther into the ground?

The best/correct way to do a HID setup is to use projectors, or to use a reflector/housing that was designed with HID in mind.

^^^^ what he said.

J&H Ryan
02-22-2010, 06:19 PM
^^^^ what he said.
I said the same thing, lol. I'm not putting HID in the SRT until I can retrofit some projectors.

rbryant
02-22-2010, 06:29 PM
Some are bright, yes, but some are fine, maybe you do have sensitive eyes-baby, :lol: but I still prefer them over some of the crap the OE's put out, even with better bulbs.

Maybe you guys are just blind and can't see with a reasonable amount of light...

;)


-Rich

rbryant
02-22-2010, 06:30 PM
I said the same thing, lol. I'm not putting HID in the SRT until I can retrofit some projectors.

I can respect people spending the time to get it right.

I would argue that most HID kits and even factory HID cars don't get it right though.

-Rich