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turbovanmanČ
01-20-2010, 10:09 PM
Working on a Daytona and clued in I should do this. Looking at the lengths, I think you could use a car one on an L body with no issues.

Ok, so measuring the actual jack shafts-

L body- 7 3/4"
G body etc- 8 3/8"
Van- 9 3/8"

I measured the spline part, L body is shorter overall at 8 3/8 BUT critical measurements IE U-joint center to the first seal surface and gear are the same as G body/Vans, they measure at 9 1/8"

The L body has its own unique mounting bracket for the bearing, G body's and maybe Dynasty's, use the same mounting bracket per say, as in they both meet at the same point at the block, van's, the bracket is longer to make up for the longer jack shaft. Bottom pic.

Axles are the same, L body the shortest and 5speeds are small spline, 88-90 auto's are large spline, then the cars are next aprox 1 inch bigger, then the vans by another inch. In another thread, the Dynasty axles are supposed to be another length but I haven't measured one.

Per Dave, part numbers-

The Daytona shaft is pn# 5212992, and bracket is 4505007. The minivan shaft is pn# 5212979 and the bracket is 4384770.

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Force Fed Mopar
01-20-2010, 10:22 PM
Yeah I'm pretty sure all the intermediate shafts are all the same length, because they all bolt up to the same spot on the engines. They just changed the outboard axle length to fit whatever body it's in.

Turbodave
01-20-2010, 10:41 PM
Simon, which is what in your pictures? Any chance of getting measurements of them all as well for future reference?

turbovanmanČ
01-21-2010, 01:06 AM
Yeah I'm pretty sure all the intermediate shafts are all the same length, because they all bolt up to the same spot on the engines. They just changed the outboard axle length to fit whatever body it's in.

Did you look at the pics or did you close your eyes? :confused:


Simon, which is what in your pictures? Any chance of getting measurements of them all as well for future reference?

The shortest is the L body of course with its specific bearing, followed by the Daytona etc shaft then the Minivan.

Where do you want me to measure? Total length or ?

tryingbe
01-21-2010, 11:06 AM
I used an A568 with its intermediate shaft with 88+ auto omni shafts in my GLH just fine.

BadAssPerformance
01-21-2010, 11:36 AM
Where do you want me to measure? Total length or ?

U-joint cener to the end the axle slides in would be good.

Is the other side of the u-joint the same length in each application?

Good tech work Simon, KC article stuff for sure :thumb:

turbovanmanČ
01-21-2010, 01:58 PM
I used an A568 with its intermediate shaft with 88+ auto omni shafts in my GLH just fine.

Yeah, looking at the difference, it should work fine, and you have proved it does, :nod:


U-joint cener to the end the axle slides in would be good.

Is the other side of the u-joint the same length in each application?

Good tech work Simon, KC article stuff for sure :thumb:

Thanks, just finally got off my azz and got it done.

I'll compare brackets too, as I have car ones and a factory 5 speed van setup at my shop.

Turbodave
01-21-2010, 03:25 PM
U-joint cener to the end the axle slides in would be good.

Is the other side of the u-joint the same length in each application?

Good tech work Simon, KC article stuff for sure :thumb:

Yep, that sounds good. Basically thinking that a measurement would be useful to someone that stumbles across a part and is trying to figure what it fits.

Thanks for taking the time to do this Simon!:D

zin
01-21-2010, 08:29 PM
Seems like this could be a nice addition to the KC? If not as an article, then as a snippet? If just hate to see bits of useful info lost to the background...

Mike

turbovanmanČ
01-21-2010, 09:33 PM
This will be for the KC, that's why I put it here first, incase anyone had any other info, :nod:

turbovanmanČ
01-21-2010, 11:01 PM
Updated with measurements, more pics and findings.

turbovanmanČ
04-21-2015, 08:55 PM
Yeah I'm pretty sure all the intermediate shafts are all the same length, because they all bolt up to the same spot on the engines. They just changed the outboard axle length to fit whatever body it's in.

I found out the bracket on the minivan is different, hence why they bolt up in the same spot.

Ondonti
04-22-2015, 06:24 AM
Wonder if this auto large spline L body axle thing could be useful with caravan transfercase fitment.

turbovanmanČ
04-22-2015, 12:00 PM
Could be.

Dr. Johny Dodge
04-22-2015, 03:20 PM
the L body bearing and bracket are not unique , just early
-same as any other 85-6 turbo car

the difference to the daytona one is due to the design change that happened at the same time the 520/555 came along

if that daytona jack shaft was for an 85-6 it would be the same as the L body one

turbovanmanČ
04-22-2015, 06:01 PM
the L body bearing and bracket are not unique , just early
-same as any other 85-6 turbo car

the difference to the daytona one is due to the design change that happened at the same time the 520/555 came along

if that daytona jack shaft was for an 85-6 it would be the same as the L body one

Good to know, don't think I've ever seen a Daytona with the L body style setup.