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blk86trbo
12-30-2009, 09:43 PM
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/pickingupwhiteZ050.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/2115d8g.jpg

This Z founds it's way back to my place a few days ago, and I've been slowly tinkering with it. It has a no start condition, and I've made a few minor changes with the dash that I feel are kinda neat. Installed a 12 button Traveller and a boost controller from an 86 turbo Daytona. I think the blue lines in the gauge fit in well with the blue interior.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/021-5.jpg

Threw on a woodgrain bezel that I snagged from a LeBaron while junkyarding Monday. Also installed a nice Panasonic CD player that the previous owner (Quintin) included with the car.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/87Dash009.jpg

Swapped a few pieces underhood to see if I could resolve the lack of spark. I thought for sure a known good Power Module was going to make a difference but that didn't help. I've tried 2 different HEP's, but they aren't actually known to be good. When I turn the key on, the fuel pump primes, but when it cranks there isn't 12 volts at the coil. Anyone have any ideas?

cordes
12-30-2009, 10:01 PM
Disconnect the battery, reconnect it, and then try to start the car. You should get a code 11 if it has never seen a HEP signal.

blk86trbo
12-30-2009, 10:04 PM
I had the battery disconnected for a while, and when I hooked it back up and turned it over, the OTC only gave me fault #12...

turbokid
12-30-2009, 10:11 PM
Wow Im liking the changes already Paul!
The radio worked well?
I guess you made good use of that t1 boost center even though its not hooked up with the autometer on the post
Hope you figure out the no start issue. It started and ran great till all the sudden it quit on the highway so its gotta be some kind of electrical failure somewhere!
Q

blk86trbo
12-30-2009, 10:19 PM
Wow Im liking the changes already Paul!
The radio worked well?
I guess you made good use of that t1 boost center even though its not hooked up with the autometer on the post
Q

Thanks yeah the radio works great...I'm not someone who generally gets into aftermarket radios/amps and stuff, but the way that faceplate moves out and flips over on it's own is a trip!

And I used a "T" to hook both gauges together...2 boost gauges = more power ;)

Turbodave
12-30-2009, 10:26 PM
Paul, Car looks good. Is the distributor rotor spinning when you crank it over?

turbokid
12-30-2009, 10:30 PM
Lol twice the boost right?

blk86trbo
12-30-2009, 10:53 PM
Paul, Car looks good. Is the distributor rotor spinning when you crank it over?

Yes Sir!

JohnnyIroc
12-30-2009, 11:23 PM
It's a beautiful car Paul
i cant wait to see it
and the changes you have made look great:thumb:

turbokid
01-01-2010, 03:48 PM
Well hopefully in the new year this car wont be as much as a pain in the --- LMAO

Zoskalon
01-13-2010, 06:57 PM
Hey Paul, have you resolved the no start issue? It sounds like your car is doing exactly what my car was doing about 3 years ago. It started stalling on me randomly and about two days later, the car died on me. The problem I had was with my alternator sub-harness. I too replaced countless HEPs and coils in an attempt to solve the problem until I shifted the harness a little and the car started no problem. Slightly moving the harness caused the car to stall and if held there, it would die. I had a spare alternator harness that I swapped in and have not had a single electrical problem since. I'm sure you have a spare harness, try it out. Good luck!

blk86trbo
01-14-2010, 01:06 PM
Hey Paul, have you resolved the no start issue? It sounds like your car is doing exactly what my car was doing about 3 years ago. It started stalling on me randomly and about two days later, the car died on me. The problem I had was with my alternator sub-harness. I too replaced countless HEPs and coils in an attempt to solve the problem until I shifted the harness a little and the car started no problem. Slightly moving the harness caused the car to stall and if held there, it would die. I had a spare alternator harness that I swapped in and have not had a single electrical problem since. I'm sure you have a spare harness, try it out. Good luck!

Actually I took the LM out to try swapping in another, but I haven't got around to it yet. With the chilly temperatures and the fact that I wouldn't be taking the car out in the salt anyhow, I've moved on to some other stuff...but I'll certainly check out the sub harness. Thanks for the heads up, and we'll see you Saturday at the Shelby gathering:)

turbokid
01-14-2010, 11:33 PM
Lol c'mon Paul I want to know whats wrong LOL!

blk86trbo
02-05-2010, 09:57 PM
Well, unfortunately no updates concerning the no-start issue. The storage building is cold, and sitting in front of this computer is habit forming :)

But I did motivate myself to change the radio again LOL! I decided the nice aftermarket Panasonic would be better utilized in my beater Duster.

The Z is perfect for the nice chrome buttoned Infinity stereo I just picked up, along with a slave CD player that's been collecting dust in my basement.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/87Zradioinstall003.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/87Zradioinstall004.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/87Zradioinstall008.jpg

Ever see how deep the cupholders are on these?!

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/87Zradioinstall023.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/87Zradioinstall015.jpg

turbokid
02-06-2010, 03:47 AM
looking good. Still wanna know why it wont run LMAO!

cordes
02-06-2010, 05:43 PM
I really like it with the new radio.

blk86trbo
02-15-2010, 02:29 PM
Here's pics of chrome lock buttons I installed, and pics of the 2 button switch I would like to find in chrome...anyone know for sure if the 87-89 LeBaron 2 door (or any other model) used them?

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/doorswiches018.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/doorswiches020.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/doorswiches029.jpg

turbokid
02-16-2010, 08:56 PM
I can look at my baron. Far as I know they are black but let me double check.
Hopefully as we approach spring you can find the starting problem.
I have been lulling the problem over in my mind and I am curious to know.
Q

blk86trbo
02-16-2010, 09:03 PM
Hopefully as we approach spring you can find the starting problem.

LOL...like I was telling my buddy Karl, I can't drive it until the salt is off the roads anyhow...so that fact that I haven't repaired it keeps me from the temptation of taking it out :thumb: Hang in there man...Lord knows I really want to drive this baby, as I just love the way it looks :) BTW, those leather seats can really be a shocker! In those photos above, it was like 20 degrees in the car while I was changing the radio :eek:

Also I've got some other Hi-po goodies to throw on it...like a different front mount with custom piping that will look great under the hood :nod:

turbokid
02-17-2010, 01:12 AM
Well if you get rid of the current one, I wouldn't mind having it back LMAO!
We will talk later.
Performance goodies need to go on this car.
And it leaks oil and only has 4 gears so its not like you are gonna go anywhere. LMAO!
Cmon you know you wanna get it running

blk86trbo
09-14-2010, 02:25 PM
I'm still having a no start issue revolving around the fact that the coil isn't seeing any voltage. Myself and another Chi-town SDAC member have been tinkering with this and are coming up empty. Everything I can think of has been swapped out with known good parts...

One thing I just thought of and wanted to ask, has anyone ever had an ignition switch go bad to where the vehicle will crank but not have any spark?

blk86trbo
12-05-2010, 12:31 PM
Haven't updated this thread in a while...

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/Photo09231218_2.jpg

Back in September Karl hauled the Z up to the Shelby Dodge meeting that Jackson held at his shop. A bunch of guys jumped right on diagnosing the no start issue, and figured out it was some bad wiring going to the PM. Thanks again to all the guys that scrounged under the hood and figured out which wires needed to be repaired!

Lately I've farmed out some of the work to fellow Shelby Dodge fanatics Ron and Jakub, since they have some free time and I've been mandated overtime at work. Ron installed a different A555 trans that was rebuilt and sold through FWD-P. At the same time he threw on a front polyurethane bushing and a solid rear bobble strut. It really goes down the road nice and the trans shifts beautifully with the MTL trans fluid.

Jakub has been honing his leather working skills! Look at the great job he did with this wheel :thumb:

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/011.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/010.jpg

The fuel tank had been leaking due to a bad filler tube grommitt, so a couple weeks ago I bought a really nice used example from Rich Tidesdale in Michigan (BTW he's a great guy to do business with). Here's a pic...look at how swollen the old cracked one is!

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/Photo11231349.jpg

Recently a drivability problem was narrowed down to a weak fuel pump. After the snowfall yesterday we may have to wait until next Spring to tackle this issue...

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/012.jpg

rich tideswell
12-09-2010, 08:33 AM
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/Photo11231349.jpg

Did the old one swell up like that? I can see the split where it was leaking

blk86trbo
12-09-2010, 11:22 AM
Did the old one swell up like that? I can see the split where it was leaking

It was very swollen and split/cracked in many places...hard to believe they have the same part number!

135sohc
12-09-2010, 11:41 AM
It was very swollen and split/cracked in many places...hard to believe they have the same part number!

What are they putting in the gas out there ? :eek: That swollen one looks like the 4002010 grommet from the rwd cars.

blk86trbo
12-09-2010, 01:01 PM
What are they putting in the gas out there ? :eek: That swollen one looks like the 4002010 grommet from the rwd cars.

Right!? I was thinking the same thing, but the grommit was leaking fuel when I bought it last year from the KC area.

rich tideswell
12-09-2010, 03:36 PM
What are they putting in the gas out there ? :eek:

I'm not sure if IL is like MI, but here we have a "Summer Blend" and a "Winter Blend". It doesn't do anything but raise the price at the pump.

blk86trbo
05-09-2011, 02:27 PM
A few pics of the latest radio to be installed (I'm pretty sure I've settled on this one). An AM/FM/CB that was an option in late 70's early 80's Mopars. It will bolt right in our cars physically, but an adapter must be fabricated for the wiring, unless you want to cut and solder wires together.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/018.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/021.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/011-1.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/013.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/022.jpg

It actually puts out some decent sound, and you can really fine tune in those distant stations with the dial. Now I just need to find a place to send this to be modified with an input for an iPod

turbokid
05-11-2011, 03:39 AM
Love the CB Paul. I miss that car in some ways. Glad it went to a fantastic home. Love the little touches. It really adds up in the end.
Hows the car running? I know it has a 255 walboro from the previous owner.
The shelby is doing fine. The 2.2 got overhauled over the summer with forged pistons and and a ported head with an s60. Ran great with an upgraded clutch and a568 trans. Over the winter it was smoking and had low compression on cylinder 3 so about a month ago I dropped a 2.4l SRT motor in it with megasquirt. Soon as I wrap up a little wiring and some tuning on the megasquirt its going down to Missouri for some rust repair, little bit of body work and fresh paint. So it also went to a good home and will be running better then ever come summer time!
Please keep the updates rolling man!

shackwrrr
05-11-2011, 06:50 AM
did those cb radios have a different aerial for the combined signal, or did they just have a separate one?

blk86trbo
05-13-2011, 01:40 AM
Love the CB Paul.

Thanks Quintin, it really is a neat unit. There is a button that can be activated, to where the radio plays normally, but cuts out when there is a transmission on the CB!


Hows the car running? I know it has a 255 walboro from the previous owner.

Car is running better and better, as my friends and I have been tinkering with it quite a bit lately. Just yesterday, TurboRon and I replaced the tank with a new aftermarket unit from Rock Auto. There had been a problem with fuel pressure dropping...from the outside, the original tank looked like it was in great shape. But it was really rusty inside, and there was a bunch of debris floating around too. A few weeks ago I tried merely replacing the sock...just a few minutes of use and it was really nasty again! Pressure is now back to normal, it will be at SDAC :nod:


The shelby is doing fine. The 2.2 got overhauled over the summer with forged pistons and and a ported head with an s60. Ran great with an upgraded clutch and a568 trans. Over the winter it was smoking and had low compression on cylinder 3 so about a month ago I dropped a 2.4l SRT motor in it with megasquirt. Soon as I wrap up a little wiring and some tuning on the megasquirt its going down to Missouri for some rust repair, little bit of body work and fresh paint. So it also went to a good home and will be running better then ever come summer time!

Sounds great man, I'm happy you're taking good care of it :thumb:


did those cb radios have a different aerial for the combined signal, or did they just have a separate one?

That's a good question, I would have never thought to ask that. But when I purchased the radio, a splitter was included. Not sure if it is what was used originally, but both signals are picked up through the stock antennae. Here's a pic

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/blk86trbo/White%20Z/002.jpg

blk86trbo
05-13-2011, 04:01 PM
Replaced a window scraper today too...http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?58904-Replacing-window-scrapers-in-a-Daytona&p=809138#post809138