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ShadowFromHell
12-13-2009, 06:01 PM
After trying to fit one of my many JY IC's into the front of my new yorker, I gave up and did this. What do guys think of my tank design? I hunted around the net for some tips, but really didn't come up with much. So I just went with what looked good. The welding isn't near as pretty as I would have liked. I let it get way to hot, I should have let it cool some between pass's and didnt. I am use to welding on fuel tankers so that isn't normally a issue. I am going to post pics of it installed in the FMIC thread once I get it in the car.

Please excuse the mess...

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll308/TurboshadowWA/SDC10653.jpg
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thefitisgay
12-13-2009, 06:07 PM
i coulda did it better :p

ooo can i have that toilett seat? i know someone who needs to give a ---- :eyebrows: get it?
cordes
12-13-2009, 09:29 PM
That looks good. I've never cared for that type of IC outlet before, but I have seen a lot of fast cars with them too.
ShadowFromHell
12-13-2009, 10:05 PM
It wasn't my first choice either. But, I really didn't like how close the IC pipe would have been to the alternator with the SRT unit in stock configuration. I don't plan on much more then 220hp with this car anyways, as it has LW rods.
cordes
12-13-2009, 10:22 PM
It wasn't my first choice either. But, I really didn't like how close the IC pipe would have been to the alternator with the SRT unit in stock configuration. I don't plan on much more then 220hp with this car anyways, as it has LW rods.

Sounds like the hot ticket for sure then. Are you doing any A/B tests, or is there a ton of work being done in addition to the IC?
omni_840
12-13-2009, 10:46 PM
Cool, looking forward to installed pics:nod:
Vigo
12-14-2009, 04:29 PM
I dont 'like' the way it looks, but i think it totally fits the spirit of using an srt-4 intercooler and just making it work for a little over 200 hp. So im totally with you. I need to learn how to weld!
Captain Chaos
12-14-2009, 05:06 PM
I dont 'like' the way it looks,

Seriously, you just typed that?^^^ LOL:

I had.. a pile of mismatched terrible looking scraps of hose, some log t1 couplers, an old mazda mx-6 bov, some pieces of 2 1/4" exhaust pipe from 4 to 8" in length, and some 2" pvc angles.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk124/Vigo327/DSC06523Medium.jpg
Lower radiator hose from a 3.9l v6 looks like a good donor:nod:
After cobbling a bunch of pieces together i was only missing one short section, but i was out of junk to splice!!
:thumb:
Vigo
12-14-2009, 08:20 PM
HAHAH touche!!!! BUT i didnt spend any money or any tools costing more than $5 at all to make that, or i wouldn't have! :p
ShadowFromHell
12-16-2009, 09:11 PM
I didnt spend a penny on this either :). The material was "scrap" from work, and I used the welder at work!

Cordes, Just fixing little stuff, no big mods. I assembled the car in a hurry because I bought a house and was moving. I have some loose ends to tidy up. It needs a shift kit, some leaks fixed and a PCV system.

I wont be installing the red intake and its associated parts if that's what your asking :p
cordes
12-16-2009, 09:40 PM
That is probably the nicest free IC modification around then. Let us know how it works out for you.
ShadowFromHell
03-07-2010, 06:33 PM
Well, more then a "few" months later and it has finally rolled out of the garage. Life gets in the way of project cars sometime, you know? Anyways the finial tally $ wise was under $20 installed. All the couplers were laying around the shop, along with the clamps. Just had to buy the exhaust tubing and the ABS sewer pipe.

Here is the pics, didn't get any of the install. The wife had the camera and wasn't home when I was installing it. I don't have pics of my thumb I mangled with the sawzall either...

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll308/TurboshadowWA/SDC10706.jpg
There is something hiding behind the grill... :)

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll308/TurboshadowWA/SDC10707.jpg
Overall pic, it needs cleaned BADLY. The old T2 radiator was leaking and blew coolant all over the motor.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll308/TurboshadowWA/SDC10708.jpg
Here you can see how far over the full size radiator was moved to the passenger side of the car. You can also see how close the alternator is to the radiator. It does have plenty of clearance, and a solid front motor mount adds a little extra safety.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll308/TurboshadowWA/SDC10709.jpg
Here are the pipes on the drivers side of the motor, notice the sewer pipe? It works great, and is CHEAP. I also built this one so I could time the motor without pulling the lower IC hose.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll308/TurboshadowWA/SDC10711.jpg
Here is where they go through the core support. Moving the radiator over made this very easy :)

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll308/TurboshadowWA/SDC10710.jpg
I mounted the BOV behind the grill to make more room in the engine bay. Made is much louder :evil:


All in all it turned out well. I couldn't tell you if it pulls any harder, I haven't drove it in a long time. I did have my OTC hooked up and was watching the intake temp. Last fall is was ALWAYS over 100-140 degrees, when it was 80-90 outside. I drove it yesterday for a hour or so and it never got above 70, and it was 68 outside so I know it is cooling MUCH better.
cordes
03-07-2010, 06:36 PM
Fantastic. I really like how that turned out. Nice work.
Vigo
03-08-2010, 12:38 AM
That is definitely a cool install!


What is coming off the turbo compressor outlet to get it coming straight out like that?
ShadowFromHell
03-08-2010, 12:56 AM
Its a top secret JY bend.... Ive used them for years, they are flexable and well made. A rubber/fabric mesh. You can find them under the hood of ford 2.3 turbos. They work great, I think Ive used them on every car I have intercooled!

Also, does anyone have any intrest me doing a write up for the KC on the ABS pipes? It looks ghetto but is CHEAP and works great. Its taken me a few setups to get it all dialed in, and Ive got it down to a science now.
mr glenn
03-08-2010, 02:13 AM
Love that install and the sewer pipe I have looked at my radiator And liked the way you moved it over I like the simple way rather than spending A bunch of money to get the same results The money saved can be spent on other things Everyone is trying to build 300 horsepower Daily Drivers
contraption22
03-08-2010, 02:58 PM
Nice work!
Sgt Craig
03-08-2010, 07:48 PM
Looks good.Ive been trying to find one of these cheap.Missed out on this one for $150 I want to try and run the piping as short as possible on my van.http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss324/bobhalls/ericspics003.jpg
Mopar318
03-08-2010, 07:52 PM
Looks good.Ive been trying to find one of these cheap.Missed out on this one for $150 I want to try and run the piping as short as possible on my van.http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss324/bobhalls/ericspics003.jpg

I would rather have longer piping and not have a super inefficient intercooler like that.:confused2:
Sgt Craig
03-08-2010, 07:58 PM
I would rather have longer piping and not have a super inefficient intercooler like that.:confused2:

Trust me its not super inefficient.
raccoon
03-08-2010, 08:27 PM
you sure? i dont see a baffle welded down the center, cant the air just go in and out without moving though the core?
Sgt Craig
03-08-2010, 09:02 PM
you sure? i dont see a baffle welded down the center, cant the air just go in and out without moving though the core?

No its baffled.Not a good pic.I worked for the place that made them and had one on my old Neon,actually it was the first one made.Had no trouble making 390whp 6 years ago.
ShadowFromHell
03-08-2010, 10:40 PM
Thats funny you posted that. I have a chill factory unit in the garage too. I alway thought it was a crappy cross flow until I had it in my hands. I couldn't make it fit in the NY thou, too long.
GLHNSLHT2
03-08-2010, 11:09 PM
I would rather have longer piping and not have a super inefficient intercooler like that.:confused2:


Trust me its not super inefficient.


I don't know, I have to agree with Mopar318 on that.
contraption22
03-09-2010, 11:51 AM
No its baffled.Not a good pic.I worked for the place that made them and had one on my old Neon,actually it was the first one made.Had no trouble making 390whp 6 years ago.

I'd have to say, even if that thing is baffled inside, it still looks to be pretty restrictive. It would be the same as having an intercooler half as tall and twice as long.
ShadowFromHell
03-09-2010, 09:17 PM
Looks good.Ive been trying to find one of these cheap.Missed out on this one for $150 I want to try and run the piping as short as possible on my van.http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss324/bobhalls/ericspics003.jpg

Look at the bottom of the IC. It has a "plate" running along the bottom. That is where the air travels back through to the other side. Its very simple, No baffles. I have one that is a much newer design, but works the same way.

It really isnt that complicated. Mine works the same way, but I used a pipe.
Mopar318
03-10-2010, 07:37 AM
Look at the bottom of the IC. It has a "plate" running along the bottom. That is where the air travels back through to the other side. Its very simple, No baffles. I have one that is a much newer design, but works the same way.

It really isnt that complicated. Mine works the same way, but I used a pipe.


Good choice on the pipe. My point is the thin sliver on the bottom that carry's the chilled air is tiny, and its running back along the heat exchanger which absorbs the heat from the compressed air. Also if that's a piece of paper folded in half that core only looks a little bit bigger than the factory unit. There still has to be a baffle in there, other wise the chilled air would just mix with the hot stuff.

Good choice for the neon with very limited space but we have much better options.
Vigo
03-10-2010, 10:25 PM
If that is an 8x11 piece of paper than that core looks almost twice the size of a t2 core (assuming we're seeing 11 wide and not 8 wide).
ShadowFromHell
03-11-2010, 12:38 PM
I agree with you guys, they look like they wouldnt work that great. There are better options. But when I got the one I have home I did some research and found a few neon guys making big numbers with them.
Sgt Craig
03-11-2010, 08:58 PM
If that is an 8x11 piece of paper than that core looks almost twice the size of a t2 core (assuming we're seeing 11 wide and not 8 wide).

Its 4.5x24x6 or 6.9.Its pretty thick.Its about two SRT cores thick.They make other ones with that core.

I still would like to get one.Ive used it before,I know it works and It suits the way I want to run my piping.Other than the angles of the inlet and outlet.It was a huge improvment over the old FMIC I had on my Neon.It was tiny and would heatsoak pretty quickly only good thing about it was it was very stealthy.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/paacr/DVC00020-1.jpg